Bush the GOP Adult in the Room on Immigration

[cigaretteman]

Of course it hurts him with the base:

Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush is dismissing front-runner Donald Trump's immigration plan as impractical and destined to fail.

It's Bush's latest attempt to move up in the national polls and revive his candidacy. This time, his strategy is based on taking the offensive and portraying himself as a pragmatic, realistic leader while he suggests that Trump is living in a dream world.

"A plan needs to be grounded in reality," the former governor of Florida told the Washington Post Monday night while campaigning in South Carolina.

Bush said it's impractical for Trump to propose erecting a wall between the United States and Mexico and to propose having the Mexican government pay for it. Similarly, Bush derided Trump's threat to seize remittances sent by undocumented workers to their families in Mexico and Trump's threat to end birthright citizenship. Trump also wants to send millions of such workers and their families back to their countries of origin, which Bush opposes.

Bush favors a more lenient approach that includes creating a pathway to earned legal residency for millions of people who entered the United States illegally.

"We've got to control the border," Bush told the Post. "We've got to enforce the rule of law. We've got to deal with extended stays on legal visas. We've got to have an e-Verify system [an Internet-based system that allows employers to obtain information on prospective employees' legal status] that's verifiable. We've got to deal with sanctuary cities. We've got to forward-lean on the border. There's practical things that we can do to reduce the flow of illegal immigrants, which clearly is important to do,"

[MORE: Which Candidate is Ahead? Read The Chase]

Bush recently lost his position as the front-runner for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination. Bush has the support of only 9 percent of GOP voters, dropping him to fourth place, according to a new Fox News poll. Billionaire real-estate developer Trump is in first place with 25 percent; retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson is second with 12 percent, and Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas is third with 10 percent.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/ken-walshs-washington/2015/08/18/bush-hits-trump-on-immigration

 

[Huey Grey]

Which is probably why Jeb's fading. My personal take is that the GOP got tired of pretending that they weren't racist so decided to just say, "Eff it, back the guy who thinks Mexicans are rapists."

 

[Chewback]

Trump doesn't care whether his plans are impractical or not, he just bellows and the Oits applaud.

 

[LunchBox50]

Every Republican and Democrat presidential candidate was offered to attend an Aug. 29 immigration debate at BVU in Storm Lake hosted by the League of United Latin American Citizens and moderated by DM Register columnist Kyle Munson, radio host Sam Clovis, Musco Lighting CEO Joe Crookham, DREAM Iowa Founder Monica Reyes and Iowa Immigrant Voice Director Sandra Sanchez Ra.

Only Chafee and O'Malley agreed to take part.

 

[cigaretteman]

Every Republican and Democrat presidential candidate was offered to attend an Aug. 29 immigration debate at BVU in Storm Lake hosted by the League of United Latin American Citizens and moderated by DM Register columnist Kyle Munson, radio host Sam Clovis, Musco Lighting CEO Joe Crookham, DREAM Iowa Founder Monica Reyes and Iowa Immigrant Voice Director Sandra Sanchez Ra.

Only Chafee and O'Malley agreed to take part.

Sad. I suppose all of the bigger names figured they had nothing to gain and could only lose by participating.

 

[LunchBox50]

Sad. I suppose all of the bigger names figured they had nothing to gain and could only lose by participating.

Exactly. Don't tell me you're a candidate who “understands” and wants to address immigration and then turn your back on a chance to prove just that at a quality event hosted in a diverse Iowa community that has a school district with more than 25 languages spoken in it.

 

[jscott78]

If one of the gop candidates suggested executing Mexicans, the base would start cleaning its guns.

Of course it hurts him with the base:

Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush is dismissing front-runner Donald Trump's immigration plan as impractical and destined to fail.

It's Bush's latest attempt to move up in the national polls and revive his candidacy. This time, his strategy is based on taking the offensive and portraying himself as a pragmatic, realistic leader while he suggests that Trump is living in a dream world.

"A plan needs to be grounded in reality," the former governor of Florida told the Washington Post Monday night while campaigning in South Carolina.

Bush said it's impractical for Trump to propose erecting a wall between the United States and Mexico and to propose having the Mexican government pay for it. Similarly, Bush derided Trump's threat to seize remittances sent by undocumented workers to their families in Mexico and Trump's threat to end birthright citizenship. Trump also wants to send millions of such workers and their families back to their countries of origin, which Bush opposes.

Bush favors a more lenient approach that includes creating a pathway to earned legal residency for millions of people who entered the United States illegally.

"We've got to control the border," Bush told the Post. "We've got to enforce the rule of law. We've got to deal with extended stays on legal visas. We've got to have an e-Verify system [an Internet-based system that allows employers to obtain information on prospective employees' legal status] that's verifiable. We've got to deal with sanctuary cities. We've got to forward-lean on the border. There's practical things that we can do to reduce the flow of illegal immigrants, which clearly is important to do,"

[MORE: Which Candidate is Ahead? Read The Chase]

Bush recently lost his position as the front-runner for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination. Bush has the support of only 9 percent of GOP voters, dropping him to fourth place, according to a new Fox News poll. Billionaire real-estate developer Trump is in first place with 25 percent; retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson is second with 12 percent, and Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas is third with 10 percent.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/ken-walshs-washington/2015/08/18/bush-hits-trump-on-immigration

 

[TexMichFan]

If one of the gop candidates suggested executing Mexicans, the base would start cleaning its guns.

It is pretty easy to find the stupidest post of the day when you are posting. Congrats you are the winner.

 

[86Hawkeye]

I agree with Bush's position.

 

[Huey Grey]

If one of the gop candidates suggested executing Mexicans, the base would start cleaning its guns.

Sadly, this isn't too far off. Look no further than how the Cons reacted to the unaccompanied minors. The right literally protested bus loads of children escaping extreme violence and told them they just need to suck it up and go back to being raped.

 

[aflachawk]

If one of the gop candidates suggested executing Mexicans, the base would start cleaning its guns.

To all dems who think this is a republican stance. GWB spent a lot of political capital trying to comprehensive immigration reform and the dems killed it. In addition BHO promised it right away, they had total control for two years and came no where near it. The fact we do not have it now, shows the dems want an issue not a bill. But as usual do not let the facts get in your way

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

That article didn't really tell me much. Have his views changed? The last time I checked he was basically on the same page as Bush-McCain-Obama-Rubio and other centrists in support of a moderately punitive immigration reform bill. Pay a fine, leave the country, go to the back of the line, apply for citizenship - with some more lenient options for a few, and predicated on a "fence."

 

[theiacowtipper]

To all dems who think this is a republican stance. GWB spent a lot of political capital trying to comprehensive immigration reform and the dems killed it. In addition BHO promised it right away, they had total control for two years and came no where near it. The fact we do not have it now, shows the dems want an issue not a bill. But as usual do not let the facts get in your way

You lie in so many ways. Democrats had total control for a few months, and passed one of the largest healthcare reform laws ever. After that, Republicans had 41 votes in the senate and reverted to job one, trying to prevent the president being elected.

 

[jscott78]

Sadly, this isn't too far off. Look no further than how the Cons reacted to the unaccompanied minors. The right literally protested bus loads of children escaping extreme violence and told them they just need to suck it up and go back to being raped.

The base headed to the border a couple years ago looking to get some shots off.

 

[unIowa]

Trump isn't a R, he is a populist/nationalist and that is why he is rising in the polls. The nation is still in a big employment/wage hole (regardless of what some want to say) and people in the lower, middle and lower middle class are still struggling mightily. So Trump talks about being great again, he points to illegal immigrants as driving wages down, as sucking up resources that could be going towards helping citizens and the economy and people are lapping it up. If the wage/employment picture were not so poor he would not have near the popularity but this is where we are.

Obama has had nearly 8 years now to try to get things moving and he has made some traction but not where it counts economically, the rich are doing better than ever but not the middle and lower class. People are not going to blame GWB forever so this is the backlash from the last 7 lack-luster years.

So he blames illegals for driving wages down and taking jobs (some small truth but not near the impact most believe), he blames politicians for being stupid and only caring about getting reelected (very true), and he blames our govt officials for poor trade deals that hurt the American worker (true) and bad foreign relations deals (see Iran, awful deal, true). He is playing this nationalist card so well right now, he is presenting himself as a central figure of strength and Americans like it, they want a strong leader who talks about greatness.

I kind of wonder if this is what Hitler sounded like during his rise to power?

 

[Huey Grey]

Trump isn't a R, he is a populist/nationalist and that is why he is rising in the polls. The nation is still in a big employment/wage hole (regardless of what some want to say) and people in the lower, middle and lower middle class are still struggling mightily. So Trump talks about being great again, he points to illegal immigrants as driving wages down, as sucking up resources that could be going towards helping citizens and the economy and people are lapping it up. If the wage/employment picture were not so poor he would not have near the popularity but this is where we are.

Obama has had nearly 8 years now to try to get things moving and he has made some traction but not where it counts economically, the rich are doing better than ever but not the middle and lower class. People are not going to blame GWB forever so this is the backlash from the last 7 lack-luster years.

So he blames illegals for driving wages down and taking jobs (some small truth but not near the impact most believe), he blames politicians for being stupid and only caring about getting reelected (very true), and he blames our govt officials for poor trade deals that hurt the American worker (true) and bad foreign relations deals (see Iran, awful deal, true). He is playing this nationalist card so well right now, he is presenting himself as a central figure of strength and Americans like it, they want a strong leader who talks about greatness.

I kind of wonder if this is what Hitler sounded like during his rise to power?

Trump isn't a Republican? What does that say for the R's when someone who isn't one of them is leading them?

 

[unIowa]

Trump isn't a Republican? What does that say for the R's when someone who isn't one of them is leading them?

It says they better change their message up.

 

[Huey Grey]

It says they better change their message up.

What do you mean? Change their message how?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

What do you mean? Change their message how?

From refuse to do anything to maybe do something?

Has the GOP Congress actually delivered anything yet? Anything meaningful? We know they are ecstatic about the TPP and hate the Iran deal - but have they done anything?

Do they even no how to govern or will they just prove the old joke about Republicans saying the government can't do anything right and,then, when they get in power, they prove it?

 

[86Hawkeye]

You lie in so many ways. Democrats had total control for a few months, and passed one of the largest healthcare reform laws ever. After that, Republicans had 41 votes in the senate and reverted to job one, trying to prevent the president being elected.

The democrats had total control for 2 years, not a few months.

 

[Huey Grey]

The democrats had total control for 2 years, not a few months.

Jesus, you're a liar. Franken wasn't sworn in until July 7, 2009 and Ted Kennedy died August 25, 2009. That's less than two months, chump.