He probably would have been moved to safety, TBH.Cam Miller wouldn't have developed at Iowa the way he did at NDSU.
His Rivals recruiting page listed his position as "ATH."
He probably would have been moved to safety, TBH.Cam Miller wouldn't have developed at Iowa the way he did at NDSU.
Oddly enough, I think we have done pretty well over the years recruiting kids who only had the Dakota directional school offers…😎The other 130 schools were not within 10 miles of a kid who probably wanted to play at Iowa is whole life. Big difference IMO.
YES! I nearly lept off the couch in the NW game when I saw, for the first time since CJB, a damn Iowa QB running and getting first downs, stressing the D on the edges and making them pay for selling out. Small sample sizes yes but even a quick not elite level fast QB like Sully can make a huge difference, it's something we've been screaming and clamoring for years about!one year of lester was enough to convince me the offense will never be futile again. the qb room right now is an order of magnitude better than it has been in 5 years. it would be great to get another championship caliber proven qb but even without top talent i could see the offense being at least above average going forward. and lester doesn't just sit and accept shitty play game after game, he actually subs and almost always it's been the right move.
Agreed, easy to cherry pick a few examples of misses when we've had some good hits too! Greenway/Greenwood/LaPorta/Kittle/Mike Daniels, etc.Oddly enough, I think we have done pretty well over the years recruiting kids who only had the Dakota directional school offers…😎
Playing McNamara was the “safe” choice. By that, I’m not saying he was the right choice, but he had been in the program longer, probably knew the offense a little better, had the experience at Michigan, such that starting him was “safe”. And Kirk always makes the “safe” choice. I think it was apparent by ISU that he had limitations.YES! I nearly lept off the couch in the NW game when I saw, for the first time since CJB, a damn Iowa QB running and getting first downs, stressing the D on the edges and making them pay for selling out. Small sample sizes yes but even a quick not elite level fast QB like Sully can make a huge difference, it's something we've been screaming and clamoring for years about!
Now, imagine for a moment an average passing game to help Kaleb run the ball, sigh...we led the B10 or were 2nd in rushing for most of the year, averaging over 200 ypg.
Unless things have changed since my time there, Ivy League schools don’t give athletic scholarships.This is his 5th year in college.
He had 3 offers: North Dakota State, South Dakota State, and Northern Iowa.
Yale, South Dakota and Iowa showed interest but never offered.
How could Yale have been so stupid???
I stopped reading after your first sentence. You couldn't be more incorrect. I could Provide you the information but you should learn how to look up things before you post things that are totally inaccurate.Hindsight is 20/20, as they say. Some guys are late bloomers and/or get stuck behind someone else in high school. (Ben Roethlisberger didn't start until his senior year.) Some guys go unnoticed because they play at small schools or for bad teams. Still other guys hit their ceilings early. Just for fun I looked up Deacon Hill's high school recruiting profile on 247 and see that they had him as a 4-star recruit with P5 offers Kansas State and UCLA to go with the one he took from Wisconsin. What's more, national recruiting analyst Gene Biggins projected him as a day 3 NFL draft prospect.
"Big, strong signal caller with a powerful down field arm. Might have the strongest arm in the ’21 class but is more then just a big arm, he’s a pure thrower who can change speeds and throws with timing and anticipation. Is accurate to all three levels of the field and boasts a quick, tight release and doesn’t need much of a wind up to get the ball down the field. Has worked hard to re-shape his body in the off-season and dropped about 20 pounds. Can still improve athletically and in his ability to extend plays and get outside the pocket but ins’t a bad athlete at all and does show good pocket presence and feel. The gene pool is strong in his family as well with three older sisters who played at the elite national level in water polo. He’s developing fast and shows the upside to be an upper tier Power 5 starter and future mid-high round NFL draft pick."
https://247sports.com/player/deacon-hill-46053378/high-school-214183/
Look up what, exactly?I stopped reading after your first sentence. You couldn't be more incorrect. I could Provide you the information but you should learn how to look up things before you post things that are totally inaccurate.
Not under Brian.Cam Miller wouldn't have developed at Iowa the way he did at NDSU.
1st qb in a century (fcs, fbs, nfl) to do that in a single game.![]()
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19/22
196 yds
2 TD's
QBR 192
121 yds rushing
FCS National Championship
Brian and Kirk passed on this kid from Solon, IA while they played QB's who couldn't run or pass in McNamara and Deacon Hill. With 3 or 4 other recruits who were not good enough to play the position.
Ndsu qb coach/oc wanted to come to Iowa. He built Stick, Wentz, Lance, and now Miller.How does any professional coach keep his job when he shows an inability to update play schemes to maximize QB skill sets? Only a complete incompetent moron keeps trying to shove QBs into a set scheme when the scheme is obviously not working and obviously isn’t utilizing the QBs skill sets. Is Kirk this stupid or this stubborn!?!
Signed, a completely confused and frustrated fan
Coach Miller put several kids into college ball. Morris, Koehn, Linderbaum, Coons (AJ), Bock, and his own son. Countless others at 1AA/D2/D3/JUCO.That is coaching malfeasance of the highest order. Except for Sullivan, for six ugly years Iowa hasn't had a QB on the roster that could carry that Solon kid's cleats. The thought that KF kept saying Hill and McNamara--and Petras before that--gave Iowa "the best chance to win" is sickening in the context of major college football.
Look up what, exactly?
Season | Team | Conf | Class | Pos | G | Cmp | Att | Cmp% | Yds | TD | TD% | Int | Int% | Y/A | AY/A | Y/C | Y/G | Rate | Awards |
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2001 | Miami (OH) | MAC | FR | QB | 12 | 241 | 381 | 63.3 | 3105 | 25 | 6.6 | 13 | 3.4 | 8.1 | 7.93 | 12.9 | 258.8 | 146.5 | |
2002 | Miami (OH) | MAC | SO | QB | 12 | 271 | 428 | 63.3 | 3238 | 22 | 5.1 | 11 | 2.6 | 7.6 | 7.44 | 11.9 | 269.8 | 138.7 | |
2003* | Miami (OH) | MAC | JR | QB | 14 | 342 | 495 | 69.1 | 4486 | 37 | 7.5 | 10 | 2.0 | 9.1 | 9.65 | 13.1 | 320.4 | 165.8 | H-9 |
Career | 38 | 854 | 1304 | 65.5 | 10829 | 84 | 6.4 | 34 | 2.6 | 8.3 | 8.42 | 12.7 | 285.0 | 151.3 |
And some like facts jerkSome are just jerks
Cam could have "walked on" and been buried on the depth chart and never developed under KF\BF. He made the right move going to NDSU, he found the right fit for OC\QB coach that helped develop him into what he is today.I chuckle knowing that a decent amount of these ‘wth why didn’t we get this kid’
Would be the ones going with the
‘WTH KF the guy has zero stars, isn’t even listed as a QB on his recruiting profile and we waste a scholarship on him? We will never compete in the B1G by giving out charity scholarships to a kid because he is local. Kid probably should go to Coe or Wartburg, definitely not big enough to be a QB in the B1G’
Someone go back and see how many ‘we have to get this guy’ posts there were when he was being recruited.
I think it shows what kind of respect KF has that all 130 FBS coaches resisted that urge to offer a scholarship to the kid because he only wanted to go to Iowa.
Jackwagons
The poster was talking about Roethlisberger’s high school career.Passing
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He didn't start in only his senior year. He was a three year starter and played against Iowa two years in a row.
Season Team Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Awards 2001 Miami (OH) MAC FR QB 12 241 381 63.3 3105 25 6.6 13 3.4 8.1 7.93 12.9 258.8 146.5 2002 Miami (OH) MAC SO QB 12 271 428 63.3 3238 22 5.1 11 2.6 7.6 7.44 11.9 269.8 138.7 2003* Miami (OH) MAC JR QB 14 342 495 69.1 4486 37 7.5 10 2.0 9.1 9.65 13.1 320.4 165.8 H-9 Career 38 854 1304 65.5 10829 84 6.4 34 2.6 8.3 8.42 12.7 285.0 151.3
Dude, I was talking about high school. Ben didn't start until his senior year, which is why he ended up at Miami and not Ohio State. Obviously you didn't stop reading after the first sentence, but you weren't reading carefully.Passing
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He didn't start in only his senior year. He was a three year starter and played against Iowa two years in a row.
Season Team Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Awards 2001 Miami (OH) MAC FR QB 12 241 381 63.3 3105 25 6.6 13 3.4 8.1 7.93 12.9 258.8 146.5 2002 Miami (OH) MAC SO QB 12 271 428 63.3 3238 22 5.1 11 2.6 7.6 7.44 11.9 269.8 138.7 2003* Miami (OH) MAC JR QB 14 342 495 69.1 4486 37 7.5 10 2.0 9.1 9.65 13.1 320.4 165.8 H-9 Career 38 854 1304 65.5 10829 84 6.4 34 2.6 8.3 8.42 12.7 285.0 151.3
Some have reading skills and some don't. I think you owe him an apology.And some like facts jerk
Tell me if you have seen this before. Hawkeye Marching Band, I am truly sorry for misreading your post and responding like an ass.I assume the post was in jest.
Apology accepted. Non-alcoholic cheers to the New Year.Tell me if you have seen this before. Hawkeye Marching Band, I am truly sorry for misreading your post and responding like an ass.
Please forgive me. I 'almost' wish I could blame on one or two many but since I just celebrated 10 years of sobriety I have to take it like a man.
To the rest of you FO.
Everybody enjoy 2025, there will be plenty of challenges and some might get us worked up but we (me) should try harder and maybe take a step back before I put my foot in my mouth.
That's all.
Geez. What did you do to my friend Marching Band you ****er!?Tell me if you have seen this before. Hawkeye Marching Band, I am truly sorry for misreading your post and responding like an ass.
Please forgive me. I 'almost' wish I could blame on one or two many but since I just celebrated 10 years of sobriety I have to take it like a man.
To the rest of you FO.
Everybody enjoy 2025, there will be plenty of challenges and some might get us worked up but we (me) should try harder and maybe take a step back before I put my foot in my mouth.
That's all.
I wasn't kind as I possible could be. I was rather harsh in a response to his post and others called me out on it. I fell on the sword so there could be peace.Geez. What did you do to my friend Marching Band you ****er!?
I was just ****ing with you. We need more mea culpas like this where people realize they were unnecessarily harsh towards another poster. It shows a level of emotional maturity seldom seen around here. Good on you.I wasn't kind as I possible could be. I was rather harsh in a response to his post and others called me out on it. I fell on the sword so there could be peace.
After raiders traded for geno smith he got a 2 yr extension of $85 million.Miller went to the Raiders in the 6th round.
If you had to predict one mega-sleeper pick in this draft, I think this is it. There's no obvious starter on that roster right now, and this kid knows how to HUSTLE!
He may not be the starter on 2025, but I wouldn't be surprised if he finds a way to be "the guy" in 2026.
Dumb money...After raiders traded for geno smith he got a 2 yr extension of $85 million.
Seth Benson was excellent as well.Agreed, easy to cherry pick a few examples of misses when we've had some good hits too! Greenway/Greenwood/LaPorta/Kittle/Mike Daniels, etc.
I miss Deac.Hindsight is 20/20, as they say. Some guys are late bloomers and/or get stuck behind someone else in high school. (Ben Roethlisberger didn't start until his senior year.) Some guys go unnoticed because they play at small schools or for bad teams. Still other guys hit their ceilings early. Just for fun I looked up Deacon Hill's high school recruiting profile on 247 and see that they had him as a 4-star recruit with P5 offers Kansas State and UCLA to go with the one he took from Wisconsin. What's more, national recruiting analyst Gene Biggins projected him as a day 3 NFL draft prospect.
"Big, strong signal caller with a powerful down field arm. Might have the strongest arm in the ’21 class but is more then just a big arm, he’s a pure thrower who can change speeds and throws with timing and anticipation. Is accurate to all three levels of the field and boasts a quick, tight release and doesn’t need much of a wind up to get the ball down the field. Has worked hard to re-shape his body in the off-season and dropped about 20 pounds. Can still improve athletically and in his ability to extend plays and get outside the pocket but ins’t a bad athlete at all and does show good pocket presence and feel. The gene pool is strong in his family as well with three older sisters who played at the elite national level in water polo. He’s developing fast and shows the upside to be an upper tier Power 5 starter and future mid-high round NFL draft pick."
NDSU's QB coach wanted to come to Iowa, KF thought BF would be better...It's one thing to be able to evaluate talent, it's another thing to get them to come to Iowa.
Without looking, I'd guess that every QB Iowa recruited since Nate Stanley had a very short list of offers and likely none from P4 (P5), These are the guys Iowa could get, not necessarily the ones they wanted. I'm not even sure how big the list was for Stanzi, Beathard and Stanley. Brad Banks and Drew Tate - how much competition was there for those guys? Geez, I remember being dam happy when JC signed with Iowa.
Of course, that's on KF, BF, GD, KOK and the whole offensive strategy in the last 20 years. Top QB's and WR's don't want to come here.
So Miller was on the same high school team as Lindebaum? And didn't he play against the linebacker from SDSU that went to the same high school? Was there 3 kids on that same high school team? Pretty crazy for a 'small' Iowa high schoolPretty cool to see a kid from the WAMAC get drafted before 5* Ewers.
Yes, Tyler played on the same team as Cam (semi-finalists Tyler's Sr year, State Runners-Up Cam's Sr year). Even crazier, Tyler's dad (class of 88) and Cam's dad (class of 89) played football together in HS.So Miller was on the same high school team as Lindebaum? And didn't he play against the linebacker from SDSU that went to the same high school? Was there 3 kids on that same high school team? Pretty crazy for a 'small' Iowa high school