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Can a Boring Old ‘G’ Still Hang with the LBTQIAs?

Like others have mentioned...

1) Affirming care model and its boundaries. Are we properly, and cautiously enough, vetting kids before receiving hormones, drugs or surgery? What is age appropriate? Lots to debate in here. A half-dozen countries in Europe have restricted affirming care options because of these uncertainties. (there has been a marked rise in cases, and a change in demography, within a short period of time)

2) Trans athletes in sports.

3) Language surrounding gender.
In general kids aren't getting surgery.....I've said this repetitively but no one is listening.
 
In general kids aren't getting surgery.....I've said this repetitively but no one is listening.
Realize this. Muchuch more hormones than surgery. Virtually no bottom surgery on under 18 crowd. But there have been a non negligible amount of mastectomies IIRC
 
Oh, you strongly disagree? Well I double dog disagree!

And man, this must be the first time in history that "Liberals today are abandoning long established principles, and sneering at those of us who want to stick to those principles." Ususally liberals are so conservative.
I made a logical and reasonable argument. You have not addressed it.

Liberals are wrong on this one. Your problem is you are reacting with your gut, and not thinking it through.
 
To answer OP, probably not. I was just in San Antonio (hot as F by the way) and there were a few of the gays at the conference there as well— mostly marketing. Somehow the conversation of the Penn swimmer man-lady (their words) came up. I was surprised how much disgust and vitriol there was when the conversation delved deeper into tranny’s by the gays.

They should be. The gender identity nonsense is hurting them just after they finally were largely accepted and had attained equal status. And the thing is, gender identity isn’t even related to homosexuality.
 
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Dave said it best. The Gs and the Ls and the Bs all respect the Ts, but they also resent the Ts because they know that the Ts are just making the trip take longer than it needs to

 
They should be. The gender identity nonsense is hurting them just after they finally were largely accepted and had attained equal status. And the thing is, gender identity isn’t even related to homosexuality.
I made a logical and reasonable argument. You have not addressed it.

Liberals are wrong on this one. Your problem is you are reacting with your gut, and not thinking it through.
Sure. Same as when the blacks and Jews got all uppity. If only we listened to the reasonable conservatives then too.
 
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Which of your personal freedoms are you willing to concede?
Which other marginalized groups should we concede rights in order to win?
Should we concede on abortion in order to keep women's heathcare?
Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

Gotta be exhausting
 
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Ironic.
But sure, conservatives were wrong about the blacks, Jews, gays, Hispanics, Catholics, but THIS time history will prove them right!!
I'm sure the writer of that article is just a dyed in the wool log cabin republican.

Seriously, how smart is it to give a 10 year old child the right to make life altering decisions?

How smart is it to allow men to play physically competitive sports with women?

I'm sure that the majority of blacks love the fact that you're conflating their fight for freedom and equal rights with a confused (majority White) kids issue.

I said it before and I'll say it again, we have it so f****** easy anymore as a species that we have to make up problems to feel aggrieved. And America is the undefeated, unchallenged world champ in that regard.
 
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I'm sure the writer of that article is just a dyed in the wool log cabin republican.

Seriously, how smart is it to give a 10 year old child the right to make life altering decisions?

How smart is it to allow men to play physically competitive sports with women?

I'm sure that the majority of blacks love the fact that you're conflating their fight for freedom and equal rights with a confused (majority White) kids issue.

I said it before and I'll say it again, we have it so f****** easy anymore as a species that we have to make up problems to feel aggrieved. And America is the undefeated, unchallenged world champ in that regard.
Right, everything was solved with gay marriage (Which you all were opposed to but now pretend you support.)
Its always the next battle that is one too far.
 
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Right, everything was solved with gay marriage (Which you all were opposed to but now pretend you support.)
Its always the next battle that is one too far.
Top shelf rebuttal.....really, really sharp.

Like I asked earlier, don't you ever get tired of being wrong?
 
It's pretty comical to see all the people that think Republicans would stop attacking LGBTQIA+ rights if Democrats simply condemned the isolated "extreme" behavior that gets intentionally amplified by the right wing media machine.

I mean look at the Budlight boycott that the right wing outrage churned up. Did they target Budlight because the company advocated for gender reassignment surgery for teens? No, did they target them because Budlight sponsored family friendly drag shows? No, they targeted them because they had the nerve to send a transgender influencer a personalized can.
 
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