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Can we all agree “Squatters rights” is the dumbest thing we have going here?

I agree but a lot of this is misleading. Assuming the guy who agreed to be on camera actually believed he was a tenant because he was duped by a fake landlord into paying rent, he’s not what I would characterize as a squatter. Now, if he is lying about that and he just actually broke in himself and moved in, he is a squatter, as how I would define it. Either way, I don’t like NY’s laws, or at least how they are enforced, because to me a housing commission court would deal with evicting holdovers from a prior legal lease when there is a dispute about renewal, default, or eviction.
 
I agree but a lot of this is misleading. Assuming the guy who agreed to be on camera actually believed he was a tenant because he was duped by a fake landlord into paying rent, he’s not what I would characterize as a squatter. Now, if he is lying about that and he just actually broke in himself and moved in, he is a squatter, as how I would define it. Either way, I don’t like NY’s laws, or at least how they are enforced, because to me a housing commission court would deal with evicting holdovers from a prior legal lease when there is a dispute about renewal, default, or eviction.
Not just NY laws. Georgia has similar laws. Takes forever to legally remove someone. Even someone who broke locks to get in.
 
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I agree but a lot of this is misleading. Assuming the guy who agreed to be on camera actually believed he was a tenant because he was duped by a fake landlord into paying rent, he’s not what I would characterize as a squatter. Now, if he is lying about that and he just actually broke in himself and moved in, he is a squatter, as how I would define it. Either way, I don’t like NY’s laws, or at least how they are enforced, because to me a housing commission court would deal with evicting holdovers from a prior legal lease when there is a dispute about renewal, default, or eviction.
Dude is lying about the lease.


In my professional opinion 😁
 
Dude is lying about the lease.


In my professional opinion 😁
This is how it works.

People drive around looking at houses with a for sale sign.
They call the agent to see if the house is occupied.
If it's vacant, they might inquire about the seller's name.
If the agent won't provide the name they do a zillow search, or google search.
They download a generic lease from the internet, and fill it out.
 
Yeah, I've never understood squatter's rights for people that are their illegally.

I understand if someone had a lease, and the lease was broken and there were unethical ways used to remove tennants. I don't understand how someone who breaks into a house is allowed rights to stay there.
 
Any agent who answers this question should lose their license. The squatters don't even go to this much effort. All it takes is a peek in the windows or mailbox.
You conveniently omitted the very next line in my post so you could make a point.

A peek in the window isn't conclusive.
 
You conveniently omitted the very next line in my post so you could make a point.

A peek in the window isn't conclusive.
Actually, I guess I didn't even read that far... stopped when I saw that statement. In many cases a peek in the window is conclusive enough for them to break/pick the lock and move in.
 
You conveniently omitted the very next line in my post so you could make a point.

A peek in the window isn't conclusive.
And, now, the next statement is even more ridiculous. An agent giving the owner's name over the phone to someone? That is even more ridiculous and doesn't prove anything about "conveniently" leaving out anything.
 
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And, now, the next statement is even more ridiculous. An agent giving the owner's name over the phone to someone? That is even more ridiculous and doesn't prove anything about "conveniently" leaving out anything.
I didn't know my sellers names until I met them right before closing, only bc they were at the home doing some last minute cleaning before the final walk through. If they were never there, I would have never known.

I knew my agent's name, and I knew their agent's name.
 
how did this become a law? Why are republicans not providing legislation to fix it. Since this is all caused by democrats.
 
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But even squatters have rights under iowa laws. So again, I have no real understanding of the history here, why did squatters get rights?
Most states (I dare say all) have some form of adverse possession on the books. I don't know if that is what you are referencing.
 
how did this become a law? Why are republicans not providing legislation to fix it. Since this is all caused by democrats.
It likely started out as a way to protect actual tennants from being screwed over. Anecdotal: Someone signs a 12 month lease, 3 months in the landlord says "you need to be out by next week." Tennant has nowhere to go and no cash for a down payment/deposit. Landlord now shutting off water and heat to force them out.

What it has evolved into is likely because of lawsuit after lawsuit of people exploiting loopholes.
 
A good majority of the liberal Marxist posters here try to be squatters.
BERNIE SANDAHS AND DA SQUAD ARE SQUATTAHS AND NEED TO BE SHOT DOWN BY DA HITMAN!!!! DA HAWKEYE HITMAN GOT HIS TARGET LOCKED ON DA MARXISTS AND DA COMMUNISTS AND DA SOCIALISTS AND DA LIBS!!!!!
 
how did this become a law? Why are republicans not providing legislation to fix it. Since this is all caused by democrats.
It's weird. I don't know of a single person on either side of the aisle who think this is a good idea, yet, other than Florida right now, no one seems to care enough to fix it.

We have plenty of "right to work" states where it makes it illegal for government workers to strike and such. You'd think there'd be "right to evict" states where squatters have zero rights and can be immediately removed from property. How does this shit not just fold into trespassing laws? Why can't there be a simple database that traces homeowner/ renter transactions? If you're not in the database, you're not there legally. Period. I would volunteer to head up this office if they need one.
 
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But even squatters have rights under iowa laws. So again, I have no real understanding of the history here, why did squatters get rights?

goes back to english common law. land owners were often deserting the land to migrate to better places. the crown wanted to be able to collect taxes on the land so they gave the right to adverse possession.
 
goes back to english common law. land owners were often deserting the land to migrate to better places. the crown wanted to be able to collect taxes on the land so they gave the right to adverse possession.
thanks.
 
Most states (I dare say all) have some form of adverse possession on the books. I don't know if that is what you are referencing.
Adverse possession and squatters rights are different, or no? I only know trivia bits about adverse possession- but its several years to get ownership; and other requirements.

Squatting is just (through whatever means) claiming something that isn't yours and having some protections from removal?
 
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