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Can we all agree “Squatters rights” is the dumbest thing we have going here?

Adverse possession and squatters rights are different, or no? I only know trivia bits about adverse possession- but its several years to get ownership; and other requirements.

Squatting is just (through whatever means) claiming something that isn't yours and having some protections from removal?
I guess I don't know what "squatters rights" are in this context. My general understanding is the squatter is making a claim that they have some agreement or tenancy on the property and the police/courts tell the owner that they need to go through the court eviction process proving the squatter doesn't have rights. Yes, that would be somewhat different than adverse possession.
 
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It likely started out as a way to protect actual tennants from being screwed over. Anecdotal: Someone signs a 12 month lease, 3 months in the landlord says "you need to be out by next week." Tennant has nowhere to go and no cash for a down payment/deposit. Landlord now shutting off water and heat to force them out.

What it has evolved into is likely because of lawsuit after lawsuit of people exploiting loopholes.
That sounds very situational and rare because utilities are most often in the tenant’s name.

In any event the State of Florida has acted to stop this criminal activity.
FS 621 will take effect 7/1/24 and was passed unanimously by both houses. It frees up the owner to move quickly to remove squatters and unauthorized persons from occupying a property and allows the sheriff to assist without fear of reprisals once they have the required paperwork - no longer a lengthy and financially burdensome process for the owner.
 
I guess I don't know what "squatters rights" are in this context. My general understanding is the squatter is making a claim that they have some agreement or tenancy on the property and the police/courts tell the owner that they need to go through the court eviction process proving the squatter doesn't have rights. Yes, that would be somewhat different than adverse possession.
It is very different and is clearly defined in most states although I’ve seen several extreme cases in a few states that are awful for the owner.
 
That sounds very situational and rare because utilities are most often in the tenant’s name.

In any event the State of Florida has acted to stop this criminal activity.
FS 621 will take effect 7/1/24 and was passed unanimously by both houses. It frees up the owner to move quickly to remove squatters and unauthorized persons from occupying a property and allows the sheriff to assist without fear of reprisals once they have the required paperwork - no longer a lengthy and financially burdensome process for the owner.
Right. The law was likely made to protect people from rare and situational things. Not just people staking claims to empty units.
 
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My parents freaked out because a house next door was taken over by squatters. The lady that owned the house died. It was a 2 million dollar home but she was a little nuts and the place was disgusting covered in animal shit and other hording crap. Paramedics wore hazmat suits. Apparently she had no family and no one claimed it. A few years later some squatters took over. They fixed it up and actually started listing it as an airbnb. My folks were convinced that every time they left the house the squatters could just take over their home too.
Eventually the squatters were evicted and the home was sold.
 
goes back to english common law. land owners were often deserting the land to migrate to better places. the crown wanted to be able to collect taxes on the land so they gave the right to adverse possession.
I feel like this is what I’m working towards right now.
My “backyard neighbor” owns way too much land, hundreds of acres and doesn’t even live in the same state.
Thus I have a large timber in my backyard. My yard consists of an acre of land but it is pie shaped and my house sits pretty far back on our property so we don’t have much of a backyard.
For 7 years now I have been gradually moving my yard back farther and farther into the timber and not heard a thing from the owner. During this time the derecho happened and a couple of other windstorms that took trees down. Some of those trees even fell onto my property and I didn’t hear a single thing from her or the company that manages her land and rents out the farmhouse.
So I can totally see why adverse possession laws exist and would love to take over some of this land and pay the taxes on it.
I would like to try and take this to the courthouse but worry I’ll get in trouble (she has much more money then me) or she will sell the land to some developer and I’ll have neighbors in the backyard
 
I feel like this is what I’m working towards right now.
My “backyard neighbor” owns way too much land, hundreds of acres and doesn’t even live in the same state.
Thus I have a large timber in my backyard. My yard consists of an acre of land but it is pie shaped and my house sits pretty far back on our property so we don’t have much of a backyard.
For 7 years now I have been gradually moving my yard back farther and farther into the timber and not heard a thing from the owner. During this time the derecho happened and a couple of other windstorms that took trees down. Some of those trees even fell onto my property and I didn’t hear a single thing from her or the company that manages her land and rents out the farmhouse.
So I can totally see why adverse possession laws exist and would love to take over some of this land and pay the taxes on it.
I would like to try and take this to the courthouse but worry I’ll get in trouble (she has much more money then me) or she will sell the land to some developer and I’ll have neighbors in the backyard
Not a lawyer, but:

I wouldn’t say anything to your neighbor until they bring it up. Keep taking care of it like it’s yours. Do NOT go to court unless you have to bc it will be expensive, and god forbid you lose then you’re on the hook for all of it with no land. The longer you care for it the better you have a chance at an adverse case.
 
I feel like this is what I’m working towards right now.
My “backyard neighbor” owns way too much land, hundreds of acres and doesn’t even live in the same state.
Thus I have a large timber in my backyard. My yard consists of an acre of land but it is pie shaped and my house sits pretty far back on our property so we don’t have much of a backyard.
For 7 years now I have been gradually moving my yard back farther and farther into the timber and not heard a thing from the owner. During this time the derecho happened and a couple of other windstorms that took trees down. Some of those trees even fell onto my property and I didn’t hear a single thing from her or the company that manages her land and rents out the farmhouse.
So I can totally see why adverse possession laws exist and would love to take over some of this land and pay the taxes on it.
I would like to try and take this to the courthouse but worry I’ll get in trouble (she has much more money then me) or she will sell the land to some developer and I’ll have neighbors in the backyard
I wouldn’t do it but then again my parents taught me that taking something that’s not mine is stealing.
 
Yeah, I've never understood squatter's rights for people that are their illegally.

I understand if someone had a lease, and the lease was broken and there were unethical ways used to remove tennants. I don't understand how someone who breaks into a house is allowed rights to stay there.
Or someone six months behind on rent and abusing the building
 
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Squatters usually know some laws, in that sense they are like sovereign citizens. I'm guessing these people know how to game the system. I'd also guess they are the anti-government types and you know the rest of their belief system.
 
Squatters usually know some laws, in that sense they are like sovereign citizens. I'm guessing these people know how to game the system. I'd also guess they are the anti-government types and you know the rest of their belief system.
Some of these folks that you see on the YT and FB videos know exactly what they’re doing. I watch them and get infuriated.
 
Or someone six months behind on rent and abusing the building
Those cases are often easier to resolve because the eviction process for lease non pay violation
Is at least more definitive in terms of procedure.
 
Wasn’t Randy Quaid and his wife squatting at a house in Oklahoma a few years back?
 
Some states have these laws on the books and folks might be surprised to learn that the origins of them go back to old English law.
The pendulum is stuck and needs a re-set.
 
It is without question the dumbest most idiotic scenarios I can think of. If I go to MY house and someone is living there, why am I not allowed to shoot them for breaking and entering and not leaving. Makes no sense!
Depending on your county in Florida the sheriff might give you a medal.
 
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Another victim.

It’s kind of odd that they have surveillance video of the suspects, but they haven’t released what the suspects look like. Even though it’s an active search.
 


At least she wasn't murdered by a bunch of biden's illegals. This is going to get so much worse now that the illegals are learning how stupid Democrat squatter laws are in places like NY, CA, etc.
 
And, now, the next statement is even more ridiculous. An agent giving the owner's name over the phone to someone? That is even more ridiculous and doesn't prove anything about "conveniently" leaving out anything.
It's public record in Florida. It can be found on zillow.

You like carrying grudges. Get over yourself.
 
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