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Carver Hawkeye Arena

oneeyedjakes94 said:
http://www.thegazette.com/subject/s...nner-display-in-carver-hawkeye-arena-20150413

Not so much based on this article, but wasn't there talk about adding suites around the top, center scoreboard, etc. to Carver?

Anyone got any updates?
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Article is pretty good. The roof is a mess, leaks frequently and needs to be replaced. We definitely need to rethink the banners. It looks weird seeing wrestling celebrate championships only, when the other teams celebrate any tournament appearance.

What is missing from this article is the floor. We have to have the worst playing surface in the Big Ten. Any renovation needs to include this in the plans.
 
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What we need is an engineer to tell us how to keep the sound in better and make it louder environment. Then make it so.
 
perryhawk said:
What we need is an engineer to tell us how to keep the sound in better and make it louder environment. Then make it so.
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what they need is to quit spending money on it and build a new one, Carver was a bad idea from the start and has not gotten any better thru time.

not sure where but need to find a place where the students can get there easier and the pkg might be better as well. someone else will have to tell me where that is.
 
The engineers that designed the building didn't do a lot of listening. The original design had another level of exits half way up and then they cut that out. It was pointed out that the roof design might also act as the world's biggest snow fence. They were insistent that since it was being built into the ravine, that it would stay cool all year round without a/c. When asked about the Iowa summer humidity they ignored concerns, so it heated up and was nasty in the summer. They were extremely proud about the acoustics. Yes, they were great for concerts, but as we all found out, it lost all of the home court advantage noise the Fieldhouse was famous for. The equipment room, with all the laundry facilities, was requested to be against the outside wall and instead they moved it closer to 100 ft inside WITHOUT any ventilation for the dryers. I could go on, but it is time for an upgrade in any event. This time, I hope they actually pay attention to all of their staff members when they do the planning.
 
I hope something can be done to help the place. That stupid roof leaked five years after the place opened. I spent the entire 1988 game kneeling at the end of the scorer's table with a towel so I could go out at every dead ball and wipe the floor of the leaks from the ceiling. That was as a visiting team equipment manager.
 
Ollie4ISU said:
I hope something can be done to help the place. That stupid roof leaked five years after the place opened. I spent the entire 1988 game kneeling at the end of the scorer's table with a towel so I could go out at every dead ball and wipe the floor of the leaks from the ceiling. That was as a visiting team equipment manager.
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That wasn't the roof. That was your coaches tears.
 
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2432Hawk said:
That wasn't the roof. That was your coaches tears.
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We got beat handily, halftime was the maddest I ever saw Coach Orr during a game. That doesn't discount that the fact that Carver was a poorly conceived building that almost immediately started falling apart.
 
Carver and the Rec Building are two examples of experts who don't know a damn thing. Neither building was built with any common sense. Like Carver, the Rec Bldg. roof has leaked from day one. All those valleys do a great job of collecting snow. Who knew? And all that glass on the east and west walls is great for morning or afternoon practices. The sun? Who knew? And the ceiling lights were perfect, too, if the idea was to blind anyone who stopped staring at the floor.

Just two classic examples of absolute architectural fails. Both buildings were disasters the day they opened and there's no way to make them much better.
 
DogBoyRy said:
Got it.
You all have $50 mill sitting around?
Unless SP kicks it in it's not happening.
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well Barta has already spent over $40M fixing the place up with the new practice fac. etc...

Like I said at the time, he should have taken another 40 M and built a new arena....
 
hansenhawk said:
Carver is lame, time to do something else. Worse home court advantage in college basketball.
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Those of us who actually buy season tickets and attend the games disagree with you. We get that place rockin. You should attend a game in person some time. CHA is a great basketball venue. We aren't replacing it any time soon nor should we.
 
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hansenhawk said:
Carver is lame, time to do something else. Worse home court advantage in college basketball.
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Carver has problems, but nothing that I don't think can be fixed. I saw the game in Nebraska's new arena last year and thought it was terrible. Seats up top are almost vertical and way too high. Last thing we need is another new stadium. Waste of $$.
 
hooper56 said:
Those of us who actually buy season tickets and attend the games disagree with you. We get that place rockin. You should attend a game in person some time. CHA is a great basketball venue. We aren't replacing it any time soon nor should we.
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calling CHA lame & the worst home court in college basketball ... typical... and obviously dead wrong.

while CHA doesn't hold the noise as well as the FH...it can get pretty loud in the lower bowl.
 
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hooper56 said:
Those of us who actually buy season tickets and attend the games disagree with you. We get that place rockin. You should attend a game in person some time. CHA is a great basketball venue. We aren't replacing it any time soon nor should we.
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Those of us who actually buy season tickets and attend games and are also knowledgeable disagree with YOU. The places rocks for short periods on rare occasions. You should attend a game in person in a great arena that rocks from start to finish and where every seat is closer to the floor than 1/2 of Carver's. CHA has always been horrid for basketball. We aren't replacing it any time soon, which insures that half our fans will continue to be a billionty feet from the floor.
 
hansenhawk said:
Carver is lame, time to do something else. Worse home court advantage in college basketball.
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Serious? Have you ever been to that High School gym they call Welsh Ryan in Northwestern. Actually it's disrespecting to HS gyms to compare them to that dump of an arena in Evanston.
 
LifelongHawk said:
Those of us who actually buy season tickets and attend games and are also knowledgeable disagree with YOU. The places rocks for short periods on rare occasions. You should attend a game in person in a great arena that rocks from start to finish and where every seat is closer to the floor than 1/2 of Carver's. CHA has always been horrid for basketball. We aren't replacing it any time soon, which insures that half our fans will continue to be a billionty feet from the floor.
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Why don't you do this: Measure the distance to the court from row 42 in carver (last row) and do the same at MSU. Let me know which is closest. (Here's a hint: it ain't even close)

There isn't a bad seat in CHA and courtside the sound is deafening. It is designed for the noise to go down to the court which it does. If you are sitting near the top it may not seem so loud to you. Is Carver the best arena in the country? No, of course not. Is it better than mediocre? Yes of course. Go visit Nebraska's fancy new arena and you will get Vertigo from sitting in the last row. It is beautiful but frankly I like CHA better.

We can argue about this forever and we won't solve the differences in opinion. But I contend that most who complain about Carver only see it on TV.

And for those who say build a new arena please let us know how much $$$$ you are willing to contribute to get it done? Or would you just wait for someone else to do it?
 
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LifelongHawk said:
Those of us who actually buy season tickets and attend games and are also knowledgeable disagree with YOU. The places rocks for short periods on rare occasions. You should attend a game in person in a great arena that rocks from start to finish and where every seat is closer to the floor than 1/2 of Carver's. CHA has always been horrid for basketball. We aren't replacing it any time soon, which insures that half our fans will continue to be a billionty feet from the floor.
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what arena are you referring to?
 
Ronman said:
Carver can rock with the best of them. It just takes a willing crowd.
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Which starts with the students....sorry I'm going on 63....don't have the lung volume I use to have and no I'm not going to stop going because someone doesn't think I yell enough...I earned my seat 50 years ago...

...so now que...let the student section post begin...

'''I'll say this..I'd be happy to move my seat location "if" someone can guarantee me the revised student section would show up for all the games...and bring it.
 
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Lifelong- you will have to excuse the haters, they don't like it when i speak the truth.

Bob- are you talking about the bottom bowl? I think you may be smoking bowls...

In honesty, I probably shouldn't have said it's the WORST atmosphere in college basketball, but it is up there.

Carver is "nice," but for a gameday atmosphere? It's turrible. Oh, and i have been to well over 250 games there in my 35 years as a fan.

But maybe those "season tickets holders" are smarter than me, I dunno.
 
I do agree with Worthy if air can be done it should. To me, although not perfect, I think the answer would be to find a way to do a better roof. Take Carver up one story if needed and put fancy private rooms around the concourse for the big donors who want 'em.

I know there are other things, like the long walk up the stairs. But the place is only thirty years or so young, not time to give it up.
 
There was some talk a while back that they could renovate carver in the same style as the pit in New Mexico, which would somehow work?
 
hansenhawk said:
Lifelong- you will have to excuse the haters, they don't like it when i speak the truth.

Bob- are you talking about the bottom bowl? I think you may be smoking bowls...

In honesty, I probably shouldn't have said it's the WORST atmosphere in college basketball, but it is up there.

Carver is "nice," but for a gameday atmosphere? It's turrible. Oh, and i have been to well over 250 games there in my 35 years as a fan.

But maybe those "season tickets holders" are smarter than me, I dunno.
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and how many other schools have you been to determine Iowa's is "up there" as one of the worse? care to tell us which ones?... once again someone is talking out of their ass ...

I didn't say bottom bowl ..I said lower bowl...read much?
 
I have been to a handful of basketball games in Carver, all fall/winter time frame, including when I was wiping up leaks from the leaking ceiling in 1988 as a visiting equipment manager. I never knew until this thread that Carver doesn't have air conditioning. That's batshit crazy... Not really that big a deal for basketball season I suppose, but who in their right mind would go to a concert there in July?
 
hawk-i bob said:
Which starts with the students....sorry I'm going on 63....don't have the lung volume I use to have and no I'm not going to stop going because someone doesn't think I yell enough...I earned my seat 50 years ago...

...so now que...lets move the student section post begin...

'''I'll say this..I'd be happy to move my seat location "if" someone can guarantee me the revised student section would show up for all the games...and bring it.
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I agree here wholeheartedly, one of the reasons students do not go to games is it is a hassle for them to get there, have to ride the bus etc...
Carver was built with holding wrestling NC in it, the bottom was made large enough to hold the required mats needed to host.
Hence we end up with a track around the court, someone in another thread was making fun of Missouri's f ball stadium b/c it used to have a track around it, well so does Carver.
What was the number 1 reason the Packers re did their stadium rather than build a new one, the bylaws of the NFL state there has to be x amount of distance from the seats to the field, if you went to the orange bowl, the seats started some 40 yds from the side and end of the field,
Everything that makes Kinnick great--sightlines, proximity to field etc...Carver is the opposite,
Lipstick ....
 
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I agree here wholeheartedly, one of the reasons students do not go to games is it is a hassle for them to get there, have to ride the bus etc...
Carver was built with holding wrestling NC in it, the bottom was made large enough to hold the required mats needed to host.
Hence we end up with a track around the court, someone in another thread was making fun of Missouri's f ball stadium b/c it used to have a track around it, well so does Carver.
What was the number 1 reason the Packers re did their stadium rather than build a new one, the bylaws of the NFL state there has to be x amount of distance from the seats to the field, if you went to the orange bowl, the seats started some 40 yds from the side and end of the field,
Everything that makes Kinnick great--sightlines, proximity to field etc...Carver is the opposite,
Lipstick ....
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Carver has its flaws, but it also has its advantages, and this notion that it doesn't get loud in there just isn't true. I was at nearly every home game from the time the arena opened through 1990 and it was plenty loud in there(remember Lute's return with his Arizona squad?).

As for the students, I'm almost to the point of not caring...if they come they come, if not fine. No way should they get prime seats until they display they can show up on a consistent basis. Its incredible to me that the university has to continually come up with reasons to get students to go...free pizza...free tickets...free whatever you can think of. Just blows my mind when you have a team that is exciting and competitive, coming off two NCAA appearances in a row. Then throw in the excuse that its too much to ask for these students to take the bus to the game...isn't the bus free too? Its sad that the University has to try and cater to these babies, and I know its not just and issue at Iowa, its nationwide for the most part. Sad nonetheless.

semi related...I can't believe we only have one(non conference) Saturday home game this season? How is that even possible? The most likely day to draw a sell out and its completely void from our conference schedule? That shouldn't happen to any team in the conference, how disappointing.
 
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Carver has its flaws, but it also has its advantages, and this notion that it doesn't get loud in there just isn't true. I was at nearly every home game from the time the arena opened through 1990 and it was plenty loud in there(remember Lute's return with his Arizona squad?).

As for the students, I'm almost to the point of not caring...if they come they come, if not fine. No way should they get prime seats until they display they can show up on a consistent basis. Its incredible to me that the university has to continually come up with reasons to get students to go...free pizza...free tickets...free whatever you can think of. Just blows my mind when you have a team that is exciting and competitive, coming off two NCAA appearances in a row. Then throw in the excuse that its too much to ask for these students to take the bus to the game...isn't the bus free too? Its sad that the University has to try and cater to these babies, and I know its not just and issue at Iowa, its nationwide for the most part. Sad nonetheless.

semi related...I can't believe we only have one(non conference) Saturday home game this season? How is that even possible? The most likely day to draw a sell out and its completely void from our conference schedule? That shouldn't happen to any team in the conference, how disappointing.
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agree 100% ... and it needs to be said...there ARE some loyal & really good students who are at the B1G games...and they have as a whole done a decent job...it is indeed these students who create the majority of the noise...
 
hawk-i bob said:
and how many other schools have you been to determine Iowa's is "up there" as one of the worse? care to tell us which ones?... once again someone is talking out of their ass ...

I didn't say bottom bowl ..I said lower bowl...read much?
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Man, attacking others and liberal use of profanity. Don't the board rules apply to you? Anyone else would get tossed.
 
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To me, Carver is less than appealing because of its location. For the students, Carver is a long way from the dorms especially when it's below freezing. Also, there are no sports bars close. The Vine and Wig and Pen don't count. That's a long cold walk in the winter. Then you have to deal with exiting when the game is over. That can take forever.
 
HawkAttackDial911 said:
To me, Carver is less than appealing because of its location. For the students, Carver is a long way from the dorms especially when it's below freezing. Also, there are no sports bars close. The Vine and Wig and Pen don't count. That's a long cold walk in the winter. Then you have to deal with exiting when the game is over. That can take forever.
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The walk from W&P and/or Vine on 2nd is less than 15 minutes...less than .75 miles. While the dorms are a bit further, that is where the free bus system comes in, if really cold. The horror to think these kids might have to one day live in Chicago and take trains/busses for an hour in the cold to get from the suburbs to downtown should they land a job in a market like that. Sorry, as you can tell I have no sympathy for the students alleged excuse that it is too far to get to the games via free transportation. Its not like we're talking about travelling 10 miles to the other side of town...Carver is just over 1 mile from the Old Capital by foot and that isn't even straight line distance cutting through lots, etc, that's following Iowa Ave to North, up and around. There are certainly some very loyal and dedicated students, but I'm afraid they are in the minority.
 
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