Are the students also supposed to fill up the other 7,000 empty seats that the people who actually have money don't bother to fill?
Carver Hawkeye Arena
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7000? hum I don't recall there being that many empty seats in the B1G games...or ISU game...maybe you are referring to some of the non-conference games.
A lot of stupid in this thread. Carver can and does rock, maybe not like it did in the 80s, but it does rock. And it is a venue for over 15000, bigger than anything else used for basketball on a regular basis for fans in the state. No surprise that it does not sell out.
Adding AC would help for warm weather events. That would be a great improvement and could be done without a major overhaul. Adding suites, not so likely without a major change.
Adding AC would help for warm weather events. That would be a great improvement and could be done without a major overhaul. Adding suites, not so likely without a major change.
My counterpoints to several comments as someone who attended every home men's game(except 1 when I was at a bowl game), many women's games, most wresting meets, and other functions from fall of 99 through spring of 2004 when I was in college.
1. Carver doesn't get loud. Wrong. At the floor level it can get deafening where you can't hear what the person next to you as saying. As others have said, it doesn't sustain that way through a whole game, but try finding an arena that isn't owned by a blue blood that does. And maybe it isn't so loud at the top, but that doesn't matter for home court advantage.
2. Students don't show up. Maybe they don't right now, but back in the 2001-2002 season we had the largest student section in the country. And up until that team crashed and burned halfway through the season they definitely attended.
3. The arena is hard to get to. Yes and no. Depends upon when the game is. Early weeknight games hurt because you're hitting the post-work commuters. Late weeknight games are easier. Weekend games are fairly easy. Except Cambus doesn't run until noon on weekends, so if it is an early game, students would have to walk which is a pain. Don't know why Cambus doesn't set up special routes on weekends for BBall games.
4. CHA lacks air conditioning which is dumb. Why do you need air conditioning? CHA isn't that hot in the summer as long as the seats aren't full with people. It would only be used in the summer when students aren't on campus and no sporting events are going on. What artist would have a concert at CHA when the students aren't on campus? The air isn't needed for the summer camps that are held at CHA. And Spring graduation occurs in May before it gets really hot out.
My suggestions...
1. Install louvers underneath the tent in the roof over the middle of the court. These can be opened as needed for concerts, etc to help with cooling and sound quality. And closed during games to help trap additional noise in. This would help with the containment of sound to hopefully help sustain the volume.
2. Install suites around the sides of the arena, these suites may need to occupy some amount of the top row of seats so that they don't consume all of the concourse space. Hopefully puts the big donors up high in the nicer/posh suites. These are the people that have problems with all of the stairs or wait for the elevator. It would help trap more noise in to help sustain the volume. And, it would also prevent people from leaving their seats early and watching the finish from the yellow railing at the top. That hurts home court advantage at the most important time all because people know they can watch the end of the game from up there and then get out quick to try to beat traffic.
3. Move the students to the collapsible seats below the yellow railing near the court. Maybe we limit it to certain sections until the need is there to use all of them, but get them down low in the spots that were previously occupied by the people that are hopefully now using the suites.
Those suggestions would only cost, at most, a few million dollars to implement. CHA is a great place to watch a game or meet. Aside from being behind the basket, a problem that every arena has, there isn't a bad seat in the house. We shouldn't throw that away, but should instead do what we can to improve our environment because most of us aren't there merely to watch a game while sitting in the seats.
1. Carver doesn't get loud. Wrong. At the floor level it can get deafening where you can't hear what the person next to you as saying. As others have said, it doesn't sustain that way through a whole game, but try finding an arena that isn't owned by a blue blood that does. And maybe it isn't so loud at the top, but that doesn't matter for home court advantage.
2. Students don't show up. Maybe they don't right now, but back in the 2001-2002 season we had the largest student section in the country. And up until that team crashed and burned halfway through the season they definitely attended.
3. The arena is hard to get to. Yes and no. Depends upon when the game is. Early weeknight games hurt because you're hitting the post-work commuters. Late weeknight games are easier. Weekend games are fairly easy. Except Cambus doesn't run until noon on weekends, so if it is an early game, students would have to walk which is a pain. Don't know why Cambus doesn't set up special routes on weekends for BBall games.
4. CHA lacks air conditioning which is dumb. Why do you need air conditioning? CHA isn't that hot in the summer as long as the seats aren't full with people. It would only be used in the summer when students aren't on campus and no sporting events are going on. What artist would have a concert at CHA when the students aren't on campus? The air isn't needed for the summer camps that are held at CHA. And Spring graduation occurs in May before it gets really hot out.
My suggestions...
1. Install louvers underneath the tent in the roof over the middle of the court. These can be opened as needed for concerts, etc to help with cooling and sound quality. And closed during games to help trap additional noise in. This would help with the containment of sound to hopefully help sustain the volume.
2. Install suites around the sides of the arena, these suites may need to occupy some amount of the top row of seats so that they don't consume all of the concourse space. Hopefully puts the big donors up high in the nicer/posh suites. These are the people that have problems with all of the stairs or wait for the elevator. It would help trap more noise in to help sustain the volume. And, it would also prevent people from leaving their seats early and watching the finish from the yellow railing at the top. That hurts home court advantage at the most important time all because people know they can watch the end of the game from up there and then get out quick to try to beat traffic.
3. Move the students to the collapsible seats below the yellow railing near the court. Maybe we limit it to certain sections until the need is there to use all of them, but get them down low in the spots that were previously occupied by the people that are hopefully now using the suites.
Those suggestions would only cost, at most, a few million dollars to implement. CHA is a great place to watch a game or meet. Aside from being behind the basket, a problem that every arena has, there isn't a bad seat in the house. We shouldn't throw that away, but should instead do what we can to improve our environment because most of us aren't there merely to watch a game while sitting in the seats.
excellent points...and agree for the most part....I will say (other than the dog races at halftime)... just being in CHA to watch the Hawkeyes take on a B1G school is a great time..
I was a season ticket holder as a student in the mid-80's. I know Carver can rock. I also never considered the distance to WALK to a game an issue, and that was from the far end of South Johnson. I now live in Albuquerque, and the fans here are absolutely disappointed with the renovations at the PIT. They feel it ripped the soul from the arena, as well as from the fans. Not to mention, the NCAA has failed to consider them as a tournament venue since the renovation, and they were led to believe that was one of the main reasons for the renovation. The changes are a major bone of contention here.
I have no doubt that changes should be made to Carver, but it would seem to me that Iowa could solicit some original, innovative ideas to enhance the experience at Carver instead of simply continuing to follow in the footsteps of the PIT. If its going to be done, and millions are going to be spent, let's act like Iowans, take advantage of the oppotunity and do it right. Be a leader, not a follower.
I have no doubt that changes should be made to Carver, but it would seem to me that Iowa could solicit some original, innovative ideas to enhance the experience at Carver instead of simply continuing to follow in the footsteps of the PIT. If its going to be done, and millions are going to be spent, let's act like Iowans, take advantage of the oppotunity and do it right. Be a leader, not a follower.
If there were 7000 empty seats with students in town, costing next to nothing for them to attend and supporting the schools basketball team, then the answer to your question is yes.
Carver has a rare ability for every fan to get almost the same experience and I love that you can walk around the arena and watch the game too. NOT a bad seat anywhere. I love it so much. I've been all over the place and Carver is still one of my favs. It needs improvements for sure and I love to see the roof fixed badly and the acoustics, cuz I do think it should be louder.
Not sure why my last post was deleted, when I am the one on the end of personal attacks, but oh well. Just make sure it goes both ways Tom.
The only renovation that CHA needs in my opinion is to double the twisty ice cream capacity so I don't get a melted blob of a cone at half-time. They fix this, I will tolerate the heat in there and cheer harder.
Any die hard fan who attends the games knows the answer to making CHA a louder environment.
Fiil the seats and have ticket holders stay in them instead of heading to the exits with 8 minutes left in the game. It is amazing that people continually abandon the Hawks to save 10 or 15 minutes on their drive home.
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