Central Iowa school districts react to education spending plan passed by Iowa House

[NorthernHawkeye]

In the article one superintendent spoke of the proposal saying the "2.25% increase wont cut it" while noting that health insurance renewals are 11.3%.

I have news for school officials. Every American has been dealing with these high increases the last few years.

Central Iowa school districts react to education spending plan passed by Iowa House

Lawmakers advanced a package Thursday that would increase per-pupil funding by 2.25%.

www.kcci.com

 

[Huey Grey]

Republicans want stupid kids. They expand their voter base.

 

[THE_DEVIL]

In the article one superintendent spoke of the proposal saying the "2.25% increase wont cut it" while noting that health insurance renewals are 11.3%.

I have news for school officials. Every American has been dealing with these high increases the last few years.

Central Iowa school districts react to education spending plan passed by Iowa House

Lawmakers advanced a package Thursday that would increase per-pupil funding by 2.25%.

www.kcci.com

excellent correlation

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Republicans want stupid kids. They expand their voter base.

Nonsense. We all have budgetary constraints. Schools are no exception.

 

[Huey Grey]

Nonsense. We all have budgetary constraints. Schools are no exception.

Kimmie somehow has enough to give private schools hundreds of millions and rich people huge tax cuts.

 

[Scott559]

Nonsense. We all have budgetary constraints. Schools are no exception.

Iowa ranks 29th in school spending per student in 2024, Down from 28th in 2023. You OK where Iowa sits in regard to investing in education?

 

[Bulldogs1974]

In the article one superintendent spoke of the proposal saying the "2.25% increase wont cut it" while noting that health insurance renewals are 11.3%.

I have news for school officials. Every American has been dealing with these high increases the last few years.

Central Iowa school districts react to education spending plan passed by Iowa House

Lawmakers advanced a package Thursday that would increase per-pupil funding by 2.25%.

www.kcci.com

maybe you should look at the problem of compression created by chronic underfunding. Those numbers don't get jacked up in the good times. When you chronically underfund, you never get caught up.
This isn't a well i've been feeling you, so you should too kind of thing.

 

[McLovin32]

Iowa ranks 29th in school spending per student in 2024, Down from 28th in 2023. You OK where Iowa sits in regard to investing in education?

Yes he is.

 

[Chishawk1425]

Nonsense. We all have budgetary constraints. Schools are no exception.

The nonsense is the school voucher scheme which is a 100% intentional attack on our public education system. Period

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

The nonsense is the school voucher scheme which is a 100% intentional attack on our public education system. Period

Turns out the leftwing trajectory of public schools has consequences.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

Turns out the leftwing trajectory of public schools has consequences.

I will freely admit as a teacher that Discovery learning, standards based grading, and a move from traditional math/reading phonics have hurt education.
But don't think for a second that private schools don't follow those same trends. We'll never really know how well private schools educate because somehow someway we have to give them tax payer money but they don't have to test or prove anything. WHY is that?
Poor students are often a reflection of their parents. I love the push for a parents bill of rights. How's about a parents bill of responsibilities. The fact that little johnny can't pay attention for 5 seconds is a direct reflection on your parenting. If your child can't do math, maybe you should have spent more time with them at home. There is a book out there on teaching your kid to read in 100 simple steps (that I wish I had when my kids were 3-4 y/o, i would have started them then); put that in the bill of parental responsibilities......

 

[Bulldogs1974]

Turns out the leftwing trajectory of public schools has consequences.

This is a statement of a person with a complete lack of understanding on the topic which means you have no critical thinking ability on the topic. That is why I know you won't understand my post above.
At least if you had any intellectual integrity you'd demand that private schools be measure the same way as public. The fact that that doesn't happen just tells you it's grift.

 

[WadeLookingbill]

Turns out the leftwing trajectory of public schools has consequences.

Turns out all of this will have consequences as well. The pendulum is undefeated. But stay arrogant and incurious!

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

I will freely admit as a teacher that Discovery learning, standards based grading, and a move from traditional math/reading phonics have hurt education.
But don't think for a second that private schools don't follow those same trends. We'll never really know how well private schools educate because somehow someway we have to give them tax payer money but they don't have to test or prove anything. WHY is that?
Poor students are often a reflection of their parents. I love the push for a parents bill of rights. How's about a parents bill of responsibilities. The fact that little johnny can't pay attention for 5 seconds is a direct reflection on your parenting. If your child can't do math, maybe you should have spent more time with them at home. There is a book out there on teaching your kid to read in 100 simple steps (that I wish I had when my kids were 3-4 y/o, i would have started them then); put that in the bill of parental responsibilities......

I agree that some parents are a problem. But it's not the only problem.

How about an educator's bill of responsibility?

It seems as if educators place blame on everything but themselves. Meanwhile increases in school staffing rise much faster than pupil numbers.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

I agree that some parents are a problem. But it's not the only problem.

How about an educator's bill of responsibility?

It seems as if educators place blame on everything but themselves. Meanwhile increases in school staffing rise much faster than pupil numbers.

again, you have not knowledge on the topic. I admitted several issues with education in the first sentence.
School staffing isn't going up, in the 3 decades I've taught all we've done is pare down through attrition. Someone retires, we don't replace and class sizes go up. There are a few more administrative positions mainly because of unfunded mandates.
there are over 35k teachers in iowa. Some are better at their job than others. Guess what, you will find that some employees are better than others in every business public or private in the world.
Please tell me northern:
How do you hire better employees/find better candidates in the private sector. You know that perfect world where everything works right and no one is lazy.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

The school staffing paradox: A growing workforce in shrinking classrooms​

The school staffing paradox: A growing workforce in shrinking classrooms | KQED

Discover the surprising trends in school staffing: more staff, fewer students. Explore the reasons and implications of this education workforce shift.

www.kqed.org

 

[Huey Grey]

Turns out the leftwing trajectory of public schools has consequences.

Rs have been in full control of Iowa forever. Are you really this dumb?

 

[Bulldogs1974]

The school staffing paradox: A growing workforce in shrinking classrooms​

The school staffing paradox: A growing workforce in shrinking classrooms | KQED

Discover the surprising trends in school staffing: more staff, fewer students. Explore the reasons and implications of this education workforce shift.

www.kqed.org

Because we have to have kids that have 1 adult with them the entire day. the rise is 99% in paras.
To let you in on a little secret.... Those paras are needed because of piss poor parents more often then not. Little johnny has to have a 1-1 to keep him in line so he doesn't ruin the class for everyone. That # has gone up because parents don't discipline their children.
again, you don't have a clue.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

How many paras do private schools have/need?

 

[LunchBox50]

Yes he is.

Of course he is — Southeast Polk built a stadium.

 

[RileyHawk]

The school staffing paradox: A growing workforce in shrinking classrooms​

The school staffing paradox: A growing workforce in shrinking classrooms | KQED

Discover the surprising trends in school staffing: more staff, fewer students. Explore the reasons and implications of this education workforce shift.

www.kqed.org

LOL - your article cites Massachusetts and Connecticut for increasing staff. Guess which two states are on top of the pre-K-12 education rankins?

You're such an ignorant rube.

 

[Rifler]

Rs have been in full control of Iowa forever.

No, this isn't true,.. Dems have occasionally had the wheel...

 

[Huey Grey]

No, this isn't true,.. Dems have occasionally had the wheel...

You're seriously trying to blame Iowa's struggling schools on Chet Culver?

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

LOL - your article cites Massachusetts and Connecticut for increasing staff. Guess which two states are on top of the pre-K-12 education rankins?

You're such an ignorant rube.

The article cited several states.

Also, from the article:

Not every school has increased staffing levels, according to Roza, but she says it’s a widespread national trend.

 

[Scott559]

The article cited several states.

Also, from the article:

Not every school has increased staffing levels, according to Roza, but she says it’s a widespread national trend.

So no data on Iowa, Got it.

 

[stanzithemanzi12]

In the article one superintendent spoke of the proposal saying the "2.25% increase wont cut it" while noting that health insurance renewals are 11.3%.

I have news for school officials. Every American has been dealing with these high increases the last few years.

Central Iowa school districts react to education spending plan passed by Iowa House

Lawmakers advanced a package Thursday that would increase per-pupil funding by 2.25%.

www.kcci.com

Private sector has to make tough decisions all the time. Government should be no different.

 

[RileyHawk]

The article cited several states.

Also, from the article:

Not every school has increased staffing levels, according to Roza, but she says it’s a widespread national trend.

The main two cited are Massachusetts and Connecticut and they are the top 2 states. They invest in their education and it pays off.

As someone else pointed out, the increases are in paras to help deal with the wide range of students they are required to serve.

What is the amount of money Iowa taxpayers will be paying to fund private school education for a fraction of the overall student population?

I fully expect you to ignore that question like you do so many others.

 

[RileyHawk]

Private sector has to make tough decisions all the time. Government should be no different.

Do you believe educating our children is important for our society to be successful?

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Private sector has to make tough decisions all the time. Government should be no different.

It's a cold, hard reality for some.

I don't know of anyone who hasn't seen their health insurance premiums increase dramatically. To expect the taxpayer to not only bear the brunt of their own increase but to also bear the brunt of school staff's increase is beyond absurd.

 

[RileyHawk]

It's a cold, hard reality for some.

I don't know of anyone who hasn't seen their health insurance premiums increase dramatically. To expect the taxpayer to not only bear the brunt of their own increase but to also bear the brunt of school staff's increase is beyond absurd.

WTF are you talking about? If you have employer provided medical insurance you don't bear the brunt of you insurance costs. Nor do you for school teachers or anyone else. JFC.

 

[stanzithemanzi12]

Do you believe educating our children is important for our society to be successful?

This is the type of dramatic, strawman argument, you libs are great at.

I'll rephrase it for you and then I'll answer the rephrased question.

Do you believe if the school budget doesn't receive higher than a 2.5% increase it will have negative effects on our education system to the point children won't be educated and our society will eventually be unsuccessful?

And my answer is no.

In fact, I believe if we didn't increase the budget by 2.5%, and instead, decreased it by 2.5% over the next 4 years for a net (10% reduction), I think the quality of education children receive would be almost the same as it is now.

This idea that quality of education and success in our society is tied to how much we spend on education is ridiculous. Obviously, money needs to be spent here, but please spare me the whole argument that if we don't continue to increase by XX% our society won't be successful.

 

[RileyHawk]

This is the type of dramatic, strawman argument, you libs are great at.

I'll rephrase it for you and then I'll answer the rephrased question.

Do you believe if the school budget doesn't receive higher than a 2.5% increase it will have negative effects on our education system to the point children won't be educated and our society will eventually be unsuccessful?

And my answer is no.

In fact, I believe if we didn't increase the budget by 2.5%, and instead, decreased it by 2.5% over the next 4 years for a net (10% reduction), I think the quality of education children receive would be almost the same as it is now.

This idea that quality of education and success in our society is tied to how much we spend on education is ridiculous. Obviously, money needs to be spent here, but please spare me the whole argument that if we don't continue to increase by XX% our society won't be successful.

I asked a question. I didn't make the claim you suggest. That is simply a desperate deflection so common sor you far right wingers when faced with your own stupidity.

 

[Chillyhoff]

Rs have been in full control of Iowa forever. Are you really this dumb?

Tom Vilsack?

 

[LunchBox50]

Tom Vilsack?

It's been nearly 20 years since Vilsack was governor, and almost 15 years since Culver left office.

 

[Scott559]

It's been nearly 20 years since Vilsack was governor, and almost 15 years since Culver left office.

In MAGA land the statute of limitations hasn’t expired in the blame game.

 

[IACub]

It's a cold, hard reality for some.

I don't know of anyone who hasn't seen their health insurance premiums increase dramatically. To expect the taxpayer to not only bear the brunt of their own increase but to also bear the brunt of school staff's increase is beyond absurd.

Nearly everyone's health care insurance premiums have increased dramatically. The fact that you haven't seen it means that your employer has absorbed it.

 

[mthawkeyes]

This is the type of dramatic, strawman argument, you libs are great at.

I'll rephrase it for you and then I'll answer the rephrased question.

Do you believe if the school budget doesn't receive higher than a 2.5% increase it will have negative effects on our education system to the point children won't be educated and our society will eventually be unsuccessful?

And my answer is no.

In fact, I believe if we didn't increase the budget by 2.5%, and instead, decreased it by 2.5% over the next 4 years for a net (10% reduction), I think the quality of education children receive would be almost the same as it is now.

This idea that quality of education and success in our society is tied to how much we spend on education is ridiculous. Obviously, money needs to be spent here, but please spare me the whole argument that if we don't continue to increase by XX% our society won't be successful.

Young people see the working conditions and are aware of the diminishing pay for teachers. Not exactly to attract our best young people to become educators. When I began 25 years ago in a small district, I was making about $20K and the veterans who had put in 20+ years were making $40-50K in that small school district. Adjusted for inflation, salaries should have doubled plus a little more since then, and that definitely has not happened.

We need more teachers, more nurses, more doctors, more LEOs, etc. The GOP loves capitalism and markets until it comes to attracting good people to fill these professions. Rather than attracting better and more qualified people by increasing compensation, they want to lower the bar by making a crash program to become a teacher or shorten the medical school by a year. Then they will be mystified as to why the quality of outcomes declines in proportion to the lack of investment.

 

[Scott559]

Nearly everyone's health care insurance premiums have increased dramatically. The fact that you haven't seen it means that your employer has absorbed it.

Before I retired my health care contribution increased yearly, During that time my paycheck increased yearly. Pretty sure that has been the norm for most people, Northern seems to expect teachers to eat their health care expenses and have lower take home pay on a yearly basis. Somehow that makes sense to him.

 

[IACub]

Before I retired my health care contribution increased yearly, During that time my paycheck increased yearly. Pretty sure that has been the norm for most people, Northern seems to expect teachers to eat their health care expenses and have lower take home pay on a yearly basis. Somehow that makes sense to him.

It was proposed by Saint Kimmy, he is oath bound to defend it without any critical thought.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Before I retired my health care contribution increased yearly, During that time my paycheck increased yearly. Pretty sure that has been the norm for most people, Northern seems to expect teachers to eat their health care expenses and have lower take home pay on a yearly basis. Somehow that makes sense to him.

In recent years, it hasn't been unusual to see annual double digit increases in health care premiums. Meanwhile annual pay raises have not kept up. Many have had to endure this? Why should teachers be the exception?