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Column: A Catholic pastor speaks out about Trump. Some parishioners walk out.

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On the Sunday morning after the deadly riot at the United States Capitol, Father William Corcoran put on his black suit and clerical collar and stepped into St. Elizabeth Seton church in the Chicago suburb of Orland Hills to celebrate the 7:30 a.m. Mass.

When it was time for the homily, he stood in front of the “celebrant’s chair” near the altar and removed his mask so that he could be clearly heard. He looked out at the 140 or so masked parishioners who sat in the sanctuary, which was still ornamented for Christmas.

He had a feeling this might not go well.





At the 5 p.m. Mass the day before, nine people had walked out as he delivered the remarks he prepared to say again now. He spoke without notes both times but figures he came close to the version eventually published in the church bulletin, which began like this:

“On this Feast of the Baptism of the Lord, we drink in the last goodness and glories of the Christmas season, and begin ordinary time on Monday.”

So far, so good. Then came the next sentence.

“Goodness and glory,” he continued, “are not two words that we would use describing our past week when we saw an angry and violent mob seize our United States Capitol and interrupt Congress in its duty of certifying the State Elector votes for President and Vice-President. Such an action has left many of us angry, and hurt. Since then we have entered a typical moment of finger pointing, blame, and holding people responsible for what happened. Such finger pointing is not new. In the very story of creation Adam points his finger at Eve for tempting him with the apple, and Eve points to the snake as the cause for all the trouble. Finger pointing often leads to avoidance of responsibility.”

Those words alone would have shaken some parishioners. The most remarkable part, however, was still to come.

“I too want to engage in finger pointing,” said Father Bill, as he’s known in the parish, “and point to myself, and accept personal responsibility in part for what happened in the Capitol this past Wednesday.”

Corcoran went on to name the many times he failed to speak out about Donald Trump’s ugly behavior. Like when the president talked about grabbing women. When he mocked a disabled reporter. When he dissed John McCain.

He talked about the German Catholic Church’s failure to condemn Adolf Hitler, about the failure of the American Catholic Church when faced with the sexual abuse committed by priests.

“As President Trump has lied about so many things,” he told the congregation, “I have never spoken out, and fear we are teaching the young that truth and facts do not matter.”

By Corcoran’s count, a dozen people walked out of Mass that morning. Nearly two dozen more at the 9:30 Mass. “Probably 30,” he estimates, at the 11:30.

Each time he was startled. Saddened. “Awful,” is how he described it later.

And each time he knew he was doing what he had to do.

Corcoran’s struggle with speaking out reflects the struggle many Americans have faced during Donald Trump’s tenure. If speaking out against the president hurts people you care for, do you do it? Do you do it at the risk of being misunderstood or vilified? If you do it, how do you do it, and when?

Corcoran is approaching 65 and he’s been a priest for nearly 40 years. He grew up as the older brother to four sisters in a South Side German-Irish neighborhood where people identified by Catholic parish. His was Little Flower. He has spent eight years as pastor at St. Elizabeth Seton, a large congregation he describes as middle to upper-middle class.

“Solid citizens,” he says. “Very nice people.”

Corcoran sees one of his jobs as “keeping people together.” Until recently, he worried that denouncing Trump’s behavior would divide the congregation unnecessarily. The Capitol insurrection changed his mind.

“To remain silent now, in the face of this violence,” he says, “was to give tacit permission that this is how we settle some things.”

After he spoke out, Corcoran received calls and emails from several upset parishioners. Some said they come to church to find peace and instead they’d found confrontation. Some had questions: Why hadn’t he condemned the looting that sprang from last summer’s racial justice protests? Why doesn’t he speak out more against abortion?

“One that struck me very hard was someone who didn’t feel welcome or that, because they support Trump, they don’t belong here anymore,” he says.

In the past week, as he talked to distressed parishioners, he has questioned himself: Could he have called out the violence without naming Trump? Should he have waited a couple of weeks when feelings weren’t so raw? He keeps coming back to one word: no.

Still, he’s “sorrowful” over the hurt felt by those who walked out.

“The people who walked out are my parishioners,” he says. “I’m obligated to care for them as well.”

But maybe, he thinks, caring for them means speaking the truth.

“When you lance a boil, it’s messy, it’s painful, it’s smelly,” he says. “But it lets the poison out. We need to let some poison out of the system for the process of healing.”

Corcoran has taken consolation from the many parishioners who are relieved that he finally spoke up. Some have thanked him for being courageous, a word he waves away.

“I didn’t think it was courageous,” he said. “I thought it was necessary.”

 
On the Sunday morning after the deadly riot at the United States Capitol, Father William Corcoran put on his black suit and clerical collar and stepped into St. Elizabeth Seton church in the Chicago suburb of Orland Hills to celebrate the 7:30 a.m. Mass.

When it was time for the homily, he stood in front of the “celebrant’s chair” near the altar and removed his mask so that he could be clearly heard. He looked out at the 140 or so masked parishioners who sat in the sanctuary, which was still ornamented for Christmas.

He had a feeling this might not go well.





At the 5 p.m. Mass the day before, nine people had walked out as he delivered the remarks he prepared to say again now. He spoke without notes both times but figures he came close to the version eventually published in the church bulletin, which began like this:

“On this Feast of the Baptism of the Lord, we drink in the last goodness and glories of the Christmas season, and begin ordinary time on Monday.”

So far, so good. Then came the next sentence.

“Goodness and glory,” he continued, “are not two words that we would use describing our past week when we saw an angry and violent mob seize our United States Capitol and interrupt Congress in its duty of certifying the State Elector votes for President and Vice-President. Such an action has left many of us angry, and hurt. Since then we have entered a typical moment of finger pointing, blame, and holding people responsible for what happened. Such finger pointing is not new. In the very story of creation Adam points his finger at Eve for tempting him with the apple, and Eve points to the snake as the cause for all the trouble. Finger pointing often leads to avoidance of responsibility.”

Those words alone would have shaken some parishioners. The most remarkable part, however, was still to come.

“I too want to engage in finger pointing,” said Father Bill, as he’s known in the parish, “and point to myself, and accept personal responsibility in part for what happened in the Capitol this past Wednesday.”

Corcoran went on to name the many times he failed to speak out about Donald Trump’s ugly behavior. Like when the president talked about grabbing women. When he mocked a disabled reporter. When he dissed John McCain.

He talked about the German Catholic Church’s failure to condemn Adolf Hitler, about the failure of the American Catholic Church when faced with the sexual abuse committed by priests.

“As President Trump has lied about so many things,” he told the congregation, “I have never spoken out, and fear we are teaching the young that truth and facts do not matter.”

By Corcoran’s count, a dozen people walked out of Mass that morning. Nearly two dozen more at the 9:30 Mass. “Probably 30,” he estimates, at the 11:30.

Each time he was startled. Saddened. “Awful,” is how he described it later.

And each time he knew he was doing what he had to do.

Corcoran’s struggle with speaking out reflects the struggle many Americans have faced during Donald Trump’s tenure. If speaking out against the president hurts people you care for, do you do it? Do you do it at the risk of being misunderstood or vilified? If you do it, how do you do it, and when?

Corcoran is approaching 65 and he’s been a priest for nearly 40 years. He grew up as the older brother to four sisters in a South Side German-Irish neighborhood where people identified by Catholic parish. His was Little Flower. He has spent eight years as pastor at St. Elizabeth Seton, a large congregation he describes as middle to upper-middle class.

“Solid citizens,” he says. “Very nice people.”

Corcoran sees one of his jobs as “keeping people together.” Until recently, he worried that denouncing Trump’s behavior would divide the congregation unnecessarily. The Capitol insurrection changed his mind.

“To remain silent now, in the face of this violence,” he says, “was to give tacit permission that this is how we settle some things.”

After he spoke out, Corcoran received calls and emails from several upset parishioners. Some said they come to church to find peace and instead they’d found confrontation. Some had questions: Why hadn’t he condemned the looting that sprang from last summer’s racial justice protests? Why doesn’t he speak out more against abortion?

“One that struck me very hard was someone who didn’t feel welcome or that, because they support Trump, they don’t belong here anymore,” he says.

In the past week, as he talked to distressed parishioners, he has questioned himself: Could he have called out the violence without naming Trump? Should he have waited a couple of weeks when feelings weren’t so raw? He keeps coming back to one word: no.

Still, he’s “sorrowful” over the hurt felt by those who walked out.

“The people who walked out are my parishioners,” he says. “I’m obligated to care for them as well.”

But maybe, he thinks, caring for them means speaking the truth.

“When you lance a boil, it’s messy, it’s painful, it’s smelly,” he says. “But it lets the poison out. We need to let some poison out of the system for the process of healing.”

Corcoran has taken consolation from the many parishioners who are relieved that he finally spoke up. Some have thanked him for being courageous, a word he waves away.

“I didn’t think it was courageous,” he said. “I thought it was necessary.”


I don't believe any member of the clergy should attack a politician publicly or from the pulpit. It alienates too many people.
 
I don't believe any member of the clergy should attack a politician publicly or from the pulpit. It alienates too many people.
Or support one. We were camping and went to church in a small town in Nov 2016. The priest mentioned he knew Trump was personally flawed, but because of abortion, we should be happy he won. No doubt he’d been telling then that for months.
 
Never quite understood the pro-life angle Catholics use to justify their support for 45**—he and all his other policies are a walking contradiction to every other tenet of the Catholic faith. It seems to me, they would be the actual oft mentioned “cafeteria Catholic.”
 
Never quite understood the pro-life angle Catholics use to justify their support for 45**—he and all his other policies are a walking contradiction to every other tenet of the Catholic faith. It seems to me, they would be the actual oft mentioned “cafeteria Catholic.”
Really?
What policies of his were pro-choice?
 
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His numerous abortions he personally paid for and or involved in and Stephen Miller the head of his campaign slipping abortion drug into a girls drink? Do as I say not as I do frauds. MAGA

Jesus Christ Dog Boy, how ****ing stupid do you have to be to be a Truumpkin. I sincerely hope you are just a troll. I would be much more able to sleep at night knowing that .
 
Jesus Christ Dog Boy, how ****ing stupid do you have to be to be a Truumpkin. I sincerely hope you are just a troll. I would be much more able to sleep at night knowing that .
Poster wrote about all his policies.
I can’t think of a single one that was pro-choice.
 
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Jesus Christ Dog Boy, how ****ing stupid do you have to be to be a Truumpkin. I sincerely hope you are just a troll. I would be much more able to sleep at night knowing that .
Nope. Not a troll but a practicing Catholic.
The church is always conflicted with it’s followers.
The church is pro- life.
The leads to it being against capital punishment.
It is pro-union but has few in its schools.
Etc,etc,etc.
It will seldom take a political officer or election to the pulpit as he should not have.
 
No Roman Catholic Priest, No Protestant Pastor, and No
Jewish Rabbi needs to cross the line and speak about
politics in their place of worship. It violates the separation
of church and state. The mission of the church is to bring
people closer to God and put their faith in Him.

People go to worship to seek relief for an hour from the
troubles of this world. There is no need to preach about
any American President and his faults and flaws. It makes
no difference how bad a politician is.....there is no need to
rebuke him from the pulpit.
 
And that is part of the problem.

Walking in faith isn’t an hour commitment on a Sunday morning.

This. I'm simply amazed (not really) that the religious ITT are a bunch of pussies and think talking about real world issues at church are off limits.

Can't think of a more relevant topic than to discuss the President's shitty, non-Christ like behavior. He is the exact opposite of everything I was taught growing up. Maybe I'd go to church if there was real talk instead of fantasy land.
 
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No Roman Catholic Priest, No Protestant Pastor, and No
Jewish Rabbi needs to cross the line and speak about
politics in their place of worship. It violates the separation
of church and state. The mission of the church is to bring
people closer to God and put their faith in Him.

People go to worship to seek relief for an hour from the
troubles of this world. There is no need to preach about
any American President and his faults and flaws. It makes
no difference how bad a politician is.....there is no need to
rebuke him from the pulpit.

The Romans were not pleased with
Jesus. He did not bother to be politically correct. He did not avoid confrontation.
 
Trump is no politician though. He’s a demagogue who needs to be denounced at EVERY opportunity.

Church should be a safe haven from political polemics. You can deliver a homily or sermon on important issues without putting the president on blast. It's just not worth alienating a chunk of your parishioners.
 
For the pussies complaining that this has no place in church: if you bothered to read the words, it was very clear he approached this from an angle of blaming HIMSELF for not speaking about bad behavior. He criticized himself and is worried we are setting the wrong example for our youth (we are).

And you can do that without specifically mentioning Donald Trump.
 
So the priest needs to be a pussy and politically correct? Why?

The instant he mentions any of this stuff, regardless if he says the "Trump", he's going to have butthurt parishioners.

It is fair game and to those who can't handle it: "**** your feelings"

Lol. Well, I'm trying to be consistent.

Frankly, I love it that Daycare Donnie is getting a little static from the pulpit for a change, but again, I have to be consistent.
 
I don’t disagree with what he said, but he shouldn’t have said it.

2 things come to mind.

1. Look at the evangelical’s who spew their vile bile from the pulpit and wonder why none of their parishioners walk out,(yeah, played BSAB on this), and

2. It’s beyond time for churches to start paying taxes. They are no longer even trying to stay out of politics, they circumvent law enforcement, and some/many have done horrible things to people, only to be involved in massive coverups.

For a country founded in large part on freedom of religion, we’ve allowed it to become too major of a factor and player in our political processes.
 
I’ll take “How you know you’ve created an idol out of your politics” for $500 Alex (rip)
Btw, I'm referring to the people who got up and walked out. The priest spends his entire life studying, discerning, and praying about the intersection of faith and the modern world. He has years of academic education on philosophy, historical, and textual criticism. If you are so in love with your politics that you stand up and walk out on what was certainly an incredibly difficult and anxiety producing sermon you've demonstrated that you love your politics more than the church.
 
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