Come Sunday

[drh1150]

Can't forget this .

Vicious comment allegedly made to Kris Murray after Illinois game sparks focus on fan behavior, athlete mental health

Iowa forward Kris Murray was allegedly the target of a vicious fan comment following the Illinois game Sunday, according to his father, Kenyon Murray.

www.hawkcentral.com

Maybe some "Lock him up" for the alleged rapist Shannon.

Or, do we take the high road?

 

[HawkBall23]

I'm actually more curious what kind of scam the ILL student section is going to try to pull to spam a mass ticket group purchase this weekend.

The "Boys & Girls Club of Illinois" scheme is out, obviously.

 

[WSC72]

Then, just one day later:

 

[nck24]

Can't forget this .

Vicious comment allegedly made to Kris Murray after Illinois game sparks focus on fan behavior, athlete mental health

Iowa forward Kris Murray was allegedly the target of a vicious fan comment following the Illinois game Sunday, according to his father, Kenyon Murray.

www.hawkcentral.com

Maybe some "Lock him up" for the alleged rapist Shannon.

Or, do we take the high road?

Northwestern's student section chanted "No Means No!" I'm told that they were under very strict orders to keep it decent or they would be evicted from the game.

 

[Franisdaman]

Would an accused rapist be playing for Iowa right now? Especially after the Pierce incident that continues to haunt this program?

 

[ObeseMuffins]

Would an accused rapist be playing for Iowa right now? Especially after the Pierce incident that continues to haunt this program?

No.

 

[ObeseMuffins]

Come Sunday, I pledge to not demand Fran be fired if we lose.

 

[Franisdaman]

No.

I agree. And I know that player lawyered up to force Illinois to put him back on the roster but in my opinion Illinois should have appealed the decision and kept him suspended. And if they ran out of legal options, and they were forced to put him on the bench during games, the head coach can make the decision to not play him.

 

[Franisdaman]

Come Sunday, I pledge to not demand Fran be fired if we lose.

Thank you

 

[RocknRollface]

Then, just one day later:

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This immediately came to my mind too. Great song.

 

[Fighter of the Nightman]

I agree. And I know that player lawyered up to force Illinois to put him back on the roster but in my opinion Illinois should have appealed the decision and kept him suspended. And if they ran out of legal options, and they were forced to put him on the bench during games, the head coach can make the decision to not play him.

A federal judge literally told Illinois it had to treat Shannon as any other student athlete, as he has been convicted of exactly the same number of crimes as you have. Sitting an All American would quite clearly be violating the judge's orders, as there is zero reality where Shannon is ever benched without these allegations. Iowa would be doing the EXACT same thing, period.

Honestly impressed that the OP had the restraint to add "alleged" in his post. Even if you are not inclined to assume someone is innocent until proven guilty, the evidence in this case appears especially light. It's a very delicate situation, and I acknowledge that. But I think your average non-Illini fan is taking more of a one-sided view of this than your average Illini fan here ... assuming he's guilty from the jump without looking at anything about the case and chanting "Lock him up!" at a potentially innocent (and who IS innocent in the eyes of the law) young man who is facing decades in prison isn't ideal, and obviously him playing if he is guilty is not, either.

 

[Franisdaman]

A federal judge literally told Illinois it had to treat Shannon as any other student athlete, as he has been convicted of exactly the same number of crimes as you have. Sitting an All American would quite clearly be violating the judge's orders, as there is zero reality where Shannon is ever benched without these allegations. Iowa would be doing the EXACT same thing, period.

Honestly impressed that the OP had the restraint to add "alleged" in his post. Even if you are not inclined to assume someone is innocent until proven guilty, the evidence in this case appears especially light. It's a very delicate situation, and I acknowledge that. But I think your average non-Illini fan is taking more of a one-sided view of this than your average Illini fan here ... assuming he's guilty from the jump without looking at anything about the case and chanting "Lock him up!" at a potentially innocent (and who IS innocent in the eyes of the law) young man who is facing decades in prison isn't ideal, and obviously him playing if he is guilty is not, either.

Why didn't Illinois appeal the decision and keep him suspended? Well, we know the reason.

Playing basketball is a privilege, it is not a right. And even if the very last appeal court forced Illinois to put him on the bench, Brad Underwood does not have to play him.

There's this thing called a student code of conduct. And when the student's conduct is far from desirable, there usually are consequences at a university.

 

[rufus-hawk]

Honestly I hope the students take the high road. I don’t know the facts of his case, but what if Shannon is innocent?

He’s playing at a different school than where the alleged crime occurred because a judge ordered so. It’s a far cry from the shitshow that Alford helped create with his “come to Jesus” meeting and Pierce’s victim having to share a space with him.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Then, just one day later:

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Great song.

But, one day later? What's the connection to the OP?

Maybe just being dense.

 

[cmhawks99]

No.

I’d wager they may indeed be forced to. And I’m not sure they shouldn’t if we really purpose guilty until…

 

[cmhawks99]

Why didn't Illinois appeal the decision and keep him suspended? Well, we know the reason.

Playing basketball is a privilege, it is not a right. And even if the very last appeal court forced Illinois to put him on the bench, Brad Underwood does not have to play him.

There's this thing called a student code of conduct. And when your conduct is far from desirable, there usually consequences at a university.

Still major legality issues…I believe Underwood intended not to play him…🤷‍♂️ But If he comes back innocent and can prove irreparable damage to his earning potential as a result of the slander and benching, he wouldn’t have to make the NBA anymore to be rich…

As for his basketball skills. I’m not super impressed. Gross jump shot, poor mans Jaden Ivey without the same level of athleticism in my mind.

 

[WSC72]

Great song.

But, one day later? What's the connection to the OP?

Maybe just being dense.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with the OP


Just some continuity of the thread title my good man

 

[drh1150]

Actually, the thread title comes from an Ellington song.

Treat yourself to the rendition with Mahalia Jackson doing the vocals.

 

[WSC72]

Actually, the thread title comes from an Ellington song.

Treat yourself to the rendition with Mahalia Jackson doing the vocals.

I did not know that was a song. Thanks, I did listen to it. Pretty impressive, but my vote would go to the Jimmy

 

[mro1978]

Or, do we take the high road?

 

[General Tso]

Sunday could be a big day for iowa sports - wbb big tourney title and men play themselves into tourney?