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Cops: officers generally receive far too little training in de-escalating conflict

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Police Group Makes A Big Admission About 'Justifiable' Police Shootings
The Police Executive Research Forum calls out "missed opportunities" for ratcheting down conflicts.

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WASHINGTON -- Many recent controversial police shootings could have been avoided, even though they may have been legally justifiable, according to a report issued by a top law enforcement organization this week.

The Police Executive Research Forum, a research and policy group whose members include commanders from the largest U.S. police departments, said officers generally receive far too little training in de-escalating conflict and often are embedded in a culture that encourages them to rapidly resort to physical force.

Many recent high-profile police shootings have been legally justified, but there are sometimes "missed opportunities to ratchet down the encounter, to slow things down, to call in additional resources," Chuck Wexler, executive director of the group, wrote in the report.

It's no wonder. Disengagement and patience, the report found, are "sometimes seen as antithetical" to traditional police culture.

"Some officers, with the best intentions, think that their job is to go into a situation, take charge of it, and resolve it as quickly as you can," Wexler wrote. "Sometimes there is a feeling of competitiveness about it. If an officer slows a situation down and calls for assistance, there is sometimes a feeling that other responding officers will think, 'What, you couldn’t handle this yourself?'"

The study found that many police agencies give officers extensive training on how to shoot a gun, but officers spend "much less time" learning the "importance of de-escalation tactics and Crisis Intervention strategies for dealing with mentally ill persons, homeless persons, and other challenging situations."

Wexler said it may be difficult for many police officials to accept that things "need to change dramatically." He said the Police Executive Research Forum "is known for not being afraid to question the conventional thinking," and a critical look at tactics "is how we have made progress in policing history."

There has been a "fundamental change in how the American people view the issue of police use of force" since protests in Ferguson last year, Wexler wrote. Videos, he said, have played a big role in that shift.

"Over the past year, the nation has seen, with their own eyes, video recordings of a number of incidents that simply do not look right to them," Wexler wrote. "In many of these cases, the officers’ use of force has already been deemed 'justified,' and prosecutors have declined to press criminal charges. But that does not mean that the uses of force are considered justified by many people in the community."

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Retired Army general ‘ashamed to be an American’ after rough arrest by Georgia cops
retired four-star Army general and his neighbors accused police in Fayetteville, Georgia of using excessive force to arrest him following an alleged dispute with a food delivery driver.

“It’s the first time in my life I’m ashamed to be an American,” 84-year-old William J. Livsey told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “They took me away without my shoes, glasses or medicine. I fought for this country so hard, and I’ve tried to do good all my life.”

Livsey was arrested at his home on Saturday and charged with simple assault, robbery, misdemeanor obstruction, theft and making terroristic threats. Police said he grabbed the driver by the throat and pinned him against a refrigerator when Livsey’s debit card was not accepted and the driver said he could not take a check to pay for an order.

Authorities said the former commander of US forces in South Korea then resisted when officers tried to handcuff him, before attempting to “punch one of the officers and kick another one all while making threatening and disparaging remarks.” Ten officers were reportedly called to the scene.

“Just blown out of proportion,” a neighbor told WSB-TV. “Way too many police for that. Way too many. And the way they handcuffed him was ridiculous.”

The Journal-Constitution noted that a portion of Highway 314 in town was renamed the “General Bill Livsey Highway” in Livsey’s honor. He retired from duty in 1987, following a career that saw him win the Distinguished Flying Cross, Silver Star and Distinguished Service Medal, among other honors.

Livsey’s bond was originally set at $12,000, but he said a local judge released him on his own recognizance. A photograph of Livsey’s wrist after the arrest showed lacerations, but he told WSB on Thursday he was feeling better.

“I feel like I could wipe a tiger’s a*s with sandpaper,” he said.
 
Can someone find the statistics on the number of individuals shot by police when they follow direction?
 
Hell, that Texas pool party one the girl was following instructions. Iirc, he would tell her to walk away, then demanded she come back, etc.

At some point an asshole LEO will make it extremely difficult to follow his instructions.

And this is just ignoring the whole, you know, we have Constitutional rights issue....one that some of you simply don't give a f*** about.
 
I'll stop there, that took 30 seconds, and I don't want to go all "WORTHYWISH".
Wow, you really are a joke aren't you. I didn't see any statistics. I saw one video where a black man was shot without cause. Again, I couldn't hear what his order was though. What to the officer say to the man? Did he say put your hands up?
 
Wow, you really are a joke aren't you. I didn't see any statistics. I saw one video where a black man was shot without cause. Again, I couldn't hear what his order was though. What to the officer say to the man? Did he say put your hands up?

I never said it was statistics. Are you talking about the second video? I'm not sure why you couldn't hear the audio, he said something like, "get me your license," and the guy turned around to get it and he shot him. Jesus, the fact that you even try to defend that shows your unrealistic position. That officer was charged and tried (?), I'm not sure of the outcome right now.

Your ridiculous point is obvious, but pointless: If you do everything an officer asks you, even if an illegal order, you probably won't get killed. Well no shit. The question is, how is that helpful. We, the public, employ the LEO, we the public should be concerned about his actions. Saying, "well they didn't listen," is a really useless approach. If you were the CEO of a store, and you found out your employee did something terrible to a customer, do you ask everyone, "well, did the customer listen and obey?" Of course not, you look at the scenario, determine whether the actions of your employee were right/wrong/great/terrible and deal with him. Why on earth won't you do the same for LEOs? Why do they get so much leeway? Because their job is stressful? Lots of people's jobs are stressful, lots of people's jobs are dangerous.
 
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