http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nca...ic-violence-allegations/ar-BBL0Uvy?ocid=ientp Looks like OSU just lost their Wr coach/Recruiting Coordinator !
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Could this help the Hawks with David Bell ? Trouble in OSU land
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Probably not but who knows...doesn't matter if Iowa doesn't look better passing the ball and such, I also feel like Purdue is ahead of OSU in bells race but who knows. I know Purdue fans feel it's between Indiana and Purdue
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Couldn't hurt.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the kid with high school teammates/friends committed to Iowa, right?
In the end, Iowa just needs to win. The way Iowa generally wins is when they have a balanced offense. Iowa wins 9 or 10 games this year, that will go a long way. Stanley could put up 500 yards passing a game, but if Iowa finished 6-6, 7-5, or something like that, it means very little.
High profile recruits want to play for a winner. Period. It's not like Iowa is running a wishbone offense. Pro style (duh) transfers well to the NFL. Just win, baby.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the kid with high school teammates/friends committed to Iowa, right?
In the end, Iowa just needs to win. The way Iowa generally wins is when they have a balanced offense. Iowa wins 9 or 10 games this year, that will go a long way. Stanley could put up 500 yards passing a game, but if Iowa finished 6-6, 7-5, or something like that, it means very little.
High profile recruits want to play for a winner. Period. It's not like Iowa is running a wishbone offense. Pro style (duh) transfers well to the NFL. Just win, baby.
Interesting read. In a short article it indicates that at Florida with Urban he beat a pregnant wife and no charges, the other abuse charge is 3 years old and still open? And this charge stems from something else? How does a guy like this do this stuff and not have more done to him previously? Seems odd to protect a person who abuses women
I can tell you, but you're not going to like the answer.
Do you pay attention to the news at all?
Michigan State ring a bell recently?
Baylor?
Ever hear of a guy known as "JoePa" who couldn't "be bothered by this" because he had a team to coach? And the many Penn State fans to this day who still think that despite decades of child molestation occurring that Paterno and the university did nothing wrong?
Ever hear of a politician on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women (grabbing a woman in her private area without permission is sexual assault), and a country okay with electing him president?
You get my point. Winning in our society supersedes any concerns about a moral compass.
Congratulations...you managed to squeeze Trump into a football thread.
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Second time in two days you have blabbered your political hate. Keep it off the board.
It was relevant to the talking point on culture and leadership. Nothing hateful about it. If people want to promote Donald Trump in gifs, people are naturally going to comment on it. It goes both ways. Deal with it, snowflake.
What was wrong with the post? The example was quite relevant to the discussion.
For a long time misogyny has been tolerated. And we're then surprised when we find out about these sorts of abuses ....
The example demonstrates this continued pattern of many of us having our heads in the sand ... willing to accept how women have been treated without concern. If any dudes here had to worry every day about walking alone at night through a parking lot ... or anything like that ... their perspective would be drastically different. If any dudes here had to deal every day with a feeling of being devalued ... there would be an uproar.
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Took the words right out of my mouth, especially since he probably had a relationship with him. But let's be real here, Urban will get another guy in there easily.
Looks like Urbanus has the same rigorous moral expectations for his coaches that he did for his players when he was at Florida. The WR coach will likely end up in Nebbieland. At least he will be able to drive to recruiting destinations, unlike their current WR coach.
Former Buckeye, played in the NFL for several years. Makes sense.
Then we have assistants that have never even played the position before.
Or if they had women they know and love who were victims.
I'm glad you recognize the point was cultural and not political. I could have easily thrown in Al Franken, but the difference is he was forced to resign. Neither Democrats nor Republicans are above this. The greater point is people we put in positions of authority, whether a coach, clergy, school teacher, politician, etc., should be held to the same standards as everyone else, if not higher.
My guess, it makes no difference at all. Recruits are being sold on the program, the University and playing time. Unfortunately stuff like this gets explained away all the time.
Absolutely ... this is an issue about how we treat each other ... how we treat people. This isn't a political issue. If it suits the political slant of others ... we could have easily have taken our shots at Bill Clinton. It doesn't matter ... the ultimate result is the same, an example of an abuse of power and the disregard for treating women with "common" (I wish it were common) human decency.
Okay, then where are your comments about Bill Clinton snowflake? I won't bother responding so give it your best shot.
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I mentioned Bill Clinton as a possible example. So why politicize here?
I didn't start this BS and I obviously was not responding to you given the quote with my response. Real easy to eliminate political narrative, do not go there, keep it all about sports.
I was going with Urban has a history of tolerating this type of behavior. I wonder what changed and got him fired since there were plenty of opportunities previously to fire him.
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Why should someone in the relatively meaningless role of college football coach be held to higher moral standards than the "leader of the free world"? Seems pretty incredible, IMHO.
You sound 12 or intellectually challenged. I won't waste my time.
PS -- Bill Clinton was president 20 years ago.
WOW- Should have let him go in 2009 or even 2015. This isn't baseball where you get 3 strikes, this is hitting a woman....your pregnant wife for that matter. Lost respect for Meyer from this, disgusting
Well he used his position of authority to have an affair, but to be fair to the poster that was during a time period when Nebby was relevant too.....what he mentioned is a little more present and relevant to the culture that is being spoken of in the thread. If that hurts your political feeling- sorry but not sorry. (For the record I equally hate democrats and republicans- our founding fathers would be ashamed)
Also real easy to thicken your skin a bit, if the remark you are reffering to offended you........well that is pathetic
Are you saying he eliminated Iowa already? I don't follow it that closely.
My basic point is in order to pull a high profile kid from another state winning goes a long way.
Well somebody said they think it’s down to Indy and Purdue and if that’s the case then winning isn’t in his formula....me thinks.
I’m not disagreeing that winning isn’t important to most recruits.
Okay, gotcha. Yeah, some kids just want to stay home.
We were not relevant in 2009 or 2015. Winning 9-10 wins a year is not relevance.
To be fair we learned about billy boys ways after he was already in office.. we knew about Donny before the votes were cast! With that being said I know David has friends and even a team mate committed to Iowa but he probably has the same kind of relationships at Indiana and Purdue. I kinda think Iowa is on the outside looking in with him, unless we have a really good on the field.
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I agree that we likely have zero chance at him if we don't have a good season, but if he is really still considering PU and IU then you can't say winning is most important to him.
It may not even have to do with "having a good season" ... as much as him seeing our WRs getting involved more in the passing game.
No, I get what you and pac are saying. But those two are the home state schools. That was my point about having winning as a means of enticing a kid to go out of state.
Yet throughout history being held accountable has never happened and based on how life works in favor of people in power , it never will.
Too cynical, never is a long time. It's like people who expect an imperfect species to achieve utopia. While paradise will never be an option, "better than the current standard" isn't unreasonable.
