I don't disagree with this,. The devil is in the details, however.
Crystal Mangum just admitted after 18 years that she made up the rape allegation against the 3 Duke Lacrosse players.
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Yeah, I know, everything is about Trump. But, can you imagine how long he would be in prison?
Excuse me, insert whatever word for court case with no value or basis in fact that doesn't upset you.
The point remains the same.
Bullshit. She wasn't a child and actual damage was done with her lie. The state is not a parent. She is responsible for her lie. He is responsible as an agent of the state for his lie
Yes he did. What happened to her for telling the lie in the first place? Nothing.
And none of that happens if the lady doesn't lie to start with.
Actually, you’re wrong. He is the parent here. And she was a mentally ill college aged person. He had unilateral power, she has none. I’d be fine with her being punished if the DA weren’t a POS and did the right thing, but once he decided his fame was more important than justice, he took ownership of everything, including the publicity surrounding the case, which never happens without the DA defrauding his employer and violating his oath of duty.
You seem to lack the understanding that no damage was done to these players by this girl going to the police. All the damage was done by the DA going public with the case to get famous. Nobody ever hears about this case or accusation if the DA does his job.
If true that is moronic. Then again the right is filled with half wits these days.
the line between "provable false accusation" and "an accusation that can't or hasn't been proved" would be incredibly important
This. Her lie was wrong and caused SOME harm to the players, coaches, etc. far more harm was done by the DA who built a case he knew was built on lies and withheld evidence that nearly ruined the lives of these men.
Someone mentioned the 30 for 30 on this, it’s really good. Infuriating that the DA didn’t face stiffer penalties for what he did.
Which is why people should be very careful when they say to punish this gal. There are god only knows how many victims who DONT come forward because they worry about being stigmatized, shamed and blamed. Their accusations are difficult to prove as is,
If I remember correctly the case against those players was dismissed, am I correct? Not to say that makes what she did ok, but I don't think those players were harmed beyond the immediate affects of her accusations (which were significant consequences for them, just not permanently life altering)
Holy shit. Frivolous? Yeah, I’m really sure those lacrosse players and their families really felt this was a frivolous lawsuit. Good grief.
The case was weak from the start and lots of people questioned the behavior of Nigong from the start. Are you really playing the 18 year victim card?
The case was dismissed after the POS DA gave dozens of interviews he called “free political advertising” in which he repeatedly made the accused out to be racially motivated monsters in a sweeping character assassination for political gain while he worked in the shadows to fabricate evidence and shield exculpatory DNA evidence from the court.
Months into this thing, he claimed to reporters he had never even spoken to the victim. He caused significant damage to these kids, all on his own—all he needed was the girls story second hand. When the heat got turned up because these kids had money to fight, he turned over the case and ethical people saw what was blatantly obvious and his career was ended.
Their names were ultimately cleared; they graduated from different colleges, etc.
define “a lot” of harm here please.
Even if you prove an accusation false there is still a lasting effect.
Look at Connor Oberst. He provided tons of exculpatory evidence. His accuser publicly recanted and apologized. His career still suffered. The initial story was so much bigger than the correction.
Who knows?
The statement given by the woman in the Jameis Winston case wasn’t in any way credible. The SA declined to pursue the case. Fast forward to Jameis as the front-runner for the Heisman, the story leaks, and his reputation never recovers.
Sure, but I’d argue the accusation itself wasn’t the problem, it was the DA who used it for his personal benefit that did the greater harm to those men.
You truly are a piece of shit. Everything started because of her and she is responsible for her behavior. Your white knight behavior is disgusting and you are the epitome of exactly why she had a platform to lie and get away with it. Making excuses for her a mentally ill college student. Seriously **** off. The damage happened the second she lied. The scale of the damage was increased because of him. And here you are adding to it in your own disgusting way by excusing her and women like her that lie about men.
Moreover, while the kids are ultimately fine now, if one think it had no effect on their employment and social relationships, they would be sorely mistaken.
I seriously hope you stay away from children with a belief and value structure like that..
No it absolutely does not. He has paid for his crimes although not nearly enough
Has she?
Have you and people like you so willing to condemn them and make excuses for her?
Don't give them that. Who says they are ultimately fine? The people that almost certainly condemned them in the court of public opinion. The scumbags saying they are fine are the ones that made it so easy for her and the DA to lie and to condemn those men.
Lead prosecutor in the case, Mike Nifong, insisted in a televised interview with CBS News in 2006 that he believed the assault took place and that it was racially motivated. Nifong was also the Durham County district attorney at the time of the trial.
"The information that I have does lead me to conclude that a rape did occur," Nifong said during the interview, per court documents from the North Carolina State Bar. "The circumstances of the rape indicated a deep racial motivation for some of the things that were done. It makes a crime that is by its nature one of the most offensive and invasive even more so."
Nifong was later disbarred in 2007 after it was revealed that he failed to turn over DNA evidence that would have been helpful to the defense's case. In a report from The Associated Press at the time, Nifong said he was unaware that crucial evidence hadn’t been handed over to the defense.
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"The information that I have does lead me to conclude that a rape did occur," Nifong said during the interview, per court documents from the North Carolina State Bar. "The circumstances of the rape indicated a deep racial motivation for some of the things that were done. It makes a crime that is by its nature one of the most offensive and invasive even more so."
Nifong was later disbarred in 2007 after it was revealed that he failed to turn over DNA evidence that would have been helpful to the defense's case. In a report from The Associated Press at the time, Nifong said he was unaware that crucial evidence hadn’t been handed over to the defense.
Crystal Mangum confesses to lying about being raped by Duke lacrosse players in 2006
Crystal Mangum confessed to lying about being raped by Duke Lacrosse players 16 years after starting a national controversy based on a lie.
do you really wanna live in a world where lazy agents of the government can’t just take what a mentally ill stripper says, fabricate evidence to support it, suppress evidence that contradicts, only to throw the book at the stripper when the truth comes out?
I sure as hell don’t.
closer to reality is that you’re a reactionary moron who lacks the intellectual capacity to properly weight liability using metrics such as power, influence, and systemic trust.
There should be zero deferral of responsibility for the individual that made the false allegation.
as noted, i know one of them.
but setting that aside:
-private equity partner
-investment banker
-biglaw new york
bumps along the way but they moved past, survived, and thrived
Sometimes, you have to recognize when 'justice' has run its course
Allow me to accuse you of rape and then go through the effort of clearing that and you might have an idea.
Where on earth did I excuse what she did? Shes also currently in prison serving a life sentence.
Never said I did.
Again, where did I say this gal was blameless or that no harm was done? Simply stating that imo, far more of this blame goes to the DA who took the accusation and ran with it as tho it was an ironclad case, lying and falsifying evidence every step of the way.
To be clear - her lying with the initial accusation was bad for the young men in question. The lions share of what happened imo happened because of the DAs action afterwards.
