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Dakich says Alford to IU "a done deal;" 15 years later, Pierre Pierce continues to haunt Alford

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From the Indy Star:

The deafening noise about IU and Alford...up to a point, ...makes sense. Alford is one of the last connections to Bob Knight and the good old days: high school IndyStar Mr. Basketball winner, college All-American, Olympic gold medalist on a U.S. team coached by Knight. To a certain part of the IU fan base, an older part, he’s Moby Dick.

To another part of the fan base, he’s, um, well. Put it this way: Alford isn’t just old news. He’s bad news. To them, the only thing on Alford’s coaching resume that even whispers “IU candidate” is his playing career. Which isn’t on his coaching resume at all.

More than that, the Pierre Pierce scandal when Alford was at Iowa — Alford’s defense of Pierce, his best player in 2002, went beyond loyalty and crossed into victim intimidation — is a horrible look. It was 15 years ago, and UCLA was willing to look past it, but there are IU fans urging Glass and the board of trustees not to do the same.

For every text or email I have from an IU grad in favor of Alford — one IU manager for Knight told me “the 20-plus former players/managers that I stay in touch with really want Alford!!!” — I can show you another one like this from an IU Law grad now working as a district attorney out west:

To the Board of Trustees of Indiana University:

I write to you today as an alumnus urging you all to exert your enormous influence at Indiana University to discourage and prevent the potential hiring of Steve Alford. … I base this plea not on Mr. Alford’s lackluster coaching record, but rather on his off-the-court record. …His transgressions at the University of Iowa are not fitting with our values and priorities as a university.

Since Glass fired Crean on Thursday, Alford has emerged as the hottest IU candidate. Glass fueled that by listing three candidate criteria, criteria that fit Alford and very few others, and saying all three factors deserve a “double check plus”: Being from Indiana. Being from IU. Being a head coach.

The Alford-to-IU noise is so loud, coaches around the country are telling me what they’re hearing: They expect Adidas — IU has a $54 million contract with Adidas through 2024 — to pay Alford’s $7.8 million buyout at UCLA. It too was an Adidas school when UCLA hired Alford in 2013, but the Bruins recently left Adidas for a 15-year, $280 million deal with Under Armour. Adidas would love to return the favor and help Alford leave UCLA. That’s what other coaches are hearing, and telling me.

How hot is Alford’s IU candidacy? So hot that WFNI's Dan Dakich told me in a text message Saturday — with Alford’s third-seeded Bruins preparing to play No. 6 Cincinnati on Sunday — that “the deal (with) Alford is done.”

The whole story: http://www.indystar.com/story/sport...lford-noise-deafening-and-kind-dumb/99361610/
 
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Part of me (a large part) is anxious for this to happen. Not that I want to see Alford get his dream job, no. I want to see him get his dream job, then fall flat on his face. The Big Ten isn't the PAC 12. He very well may lock-down the state of Indiana as to recruiting, but he'll need more than that to compete. Three or four years of failure at IU and Alford will have no where to go but down.
 
Part of me (a large part) is anxious for this to happen. Not that I want to see Alford get his dream job, no. I want to see him get his dream job, then fall flat on his face. The Big Ten isn't the PAC 12. He very well may lock-down the state of Indiana as to recruiting, but he'll need more than that to compete. Three or four years of failure at IU and Alford will have no where to go but down.
CHA will be off the charts anytime IU returns to IA as well. I'll be there as much as possible!
 
He's had great success at UCLA, especially having a player such as Lonzo Ball. I can not imagine the enormous pressure that he would face at Indiana. Right now, they want a winner. They already got the scalp. I guess we'll see what we see.
 
Part of me (a large part) is anxious for this to happen. Not that I want to see Alford get his dream job, no. I want to see him get his dream job, then fall flat on his face. The Big Ten isn't the PAC 12. He very well may lock-down the state of Indiana as to recruiting, but he'll need more than that to compete. Three or four years of failure at IU and Alford will have no where to go but down.

only problem is, if he leaves, he will probably get 7 years, $21 million, all guaranteed.

the punk is set for life no matter what happens at UCLA/IU
 
He's had great success at UCLA, especially having a player such as Lonzo Ball. I can not imagine the enormous pressure that he would face at Indiana. Right now, they want a winner. They already got the scalp. I guess we'll see what we see.

Crean won 2 B1G Championships in the last 5 years and that was not good enough for IU fans. Crazy. At the same time, it would be frustrating to be B1G champs one year, and at the bottom of the standings the very next.
 
Part of me (a large part) is anxious for this to happen. Not that I want to see Alford get his dream job, no. I want to see him get his dream job, then fall flat on his face. The Big Ten isn't the PAC 12. He very well may lock-down the state of Indiana as to recruiting, but he'll need more than that to compete. Three or four years of failure at IU and Alford will have no where to go but down.

If he were to lock down the state of Indiana, the Hoosiers would be a perennial national power. The 2017 class in Indiana has the players ranked 10, 17, 19, 22 and 97 in the class. If a coach got the top 4 guys it would be in the running for the best class in the country. The 2018 class has 3 top 75 guys, including the #3 player in the country (Romeo Langford), the 2019 class already has 2 guys in the top 22.

My guess is that Alford would be better at IU than most folks realize. If he united the fan base and the administration they could be a power again.
 
Indiana was patient with Crean through his first 3 years and he has been up and down since then. And, I doubt that Dan Dakich, who has a huge mouth and very little to back it up, really knows what he is talking about.
Alford may return to Indiana and he may not. He may have a grudge because they overlooked him twice before already.
 
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Indiana was patient with Crean through his first 3 years and he has been up and down since then. And, I doubt that Dan Dakich, who has a huge mouth and very little to back it up, really knows what he is talking about.
Alford may return to Indiana and he may not. He may have a grudge because they overlooked him twice before already.

My thoughts exactly. Dan Dick Itch reminds me of the dumb jock who hangs out in the local taverns 20 years later with his letter jacket reminiscing about the glory days.

His "color commentary" reeks of self absorption and delusion, and only Bill Walton is more disagreeable to listen to commentate a game than Dick Itch.

Steve Alford is everything you despise about some of these born again, Jesus touting modern day Pharisees we have amongst us. Arrogant, stuck up, self absorbed, delusional--pretty much everything Jesus admonished his followers not to be.

Personally, I think he'll fit in well in a state that elected Mike Pence as governor, as I'm guessing a bunch of California liberals couldn't care less about his Jesus facade. And before anyone responds with the, "Why do you hate Christians?" drivel, I don't. I like true Christians. I am one in training. I just wish more of Jesus's outspoken proponents would actually start behaving more like Jesus and less like Caiaphas.
 
Indiana was patient with Crean through his first 3 years and he has been up and down since then. And, I doubt that Dan Dakich, who has a huge mouth and very little to back it up, really knows what he is talking about.
Alford may return to Indiana and he may not. He may have a grudge because they overlooked him twice before already.

Dakich is pretty well informed on what is going on at Indiana. He played there, coached there, and does a daily radio show in Indianapolis. As far as Alford holding a grudge, not a chance. IU is his dream job. My guess is within 2 days of UCLA being eliminated from the tournament he is named the coach.
 
If he takes the IU job, I hope he recruits the state of Indiana as well as he did as when he was here.

You don't think he might be able to recruit the state a tad bit better as the coach at IU than as the coach at Iowa (when Knight was still the coach at Indiana?)
 
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Until this year, Alford wasn't exactly loved by the UCLA fan base. I think that he is a better coach than the results he got at Iowa, but there are better coaches out there. The coach that takes the job better get great results, because a lot of IU fans are delusional. Dakich just likes to talk.
 
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From the Indy Star:

The deafening noise about IU and Alford...up to a point, ...makes sense. Alford is one of the last connections to Bob Knight and the good old days: high school IndyStar Mr. Basketball winner, college All-American, Olympic gold medalist on a U.S. team coached by Knight. To a certain part of the IU fan base, an older part, he’s Moby Dick.

To another part of the fan base, he’s, um, well. Put it this way: Alford isn’t just old news. He’s bad news. To them, the only thing on Alford’s coaching resume that even whispers “IU candidate” is his playing career. Which isn’t on his coaching resume at all.

More than that, the Pierre Pierce scandal when Alford was at Iowa — Alford’s defense of Pierce, his best player in 2002, went beyond loyalty and crossed into victim intimidation — is a horrible look. It was 15 years ago, and UCLA was willing to look past it, but there are IU fans urging Glass and the board of trustees not to do the same.

For every text or email I have from an IU grad in favor of Alford — one IU manager for Knight told me “the 20-plus former players/managers that I stay in touch with really want Alford!!!” — I can show you another one like this from an IU Law grad now working as a district attorney out west:

To the Board of Trustees of Indiana University:

I write to you today as an alumnus urging you all to exert your enormous influence at Indiana University to discourage and prevent the potential hiring of Steve Alford. … I base this plea not on Mr. Alford’s lackluster coaching record, but rather on his off-the-court record. …His transgressions at the University of Iowa are not fitting with our values and priorities as a university.

Since Glass fired Crean on Thursday, Alford has emerged as the hottest IU candidate. Glass fueled that by listing three candidate criteria, criteria that fit Alford and very few others, and saying all three factors deserve a “double check plus”: Being from Indiana. Being from IU. Being a head coach.

The Alford-to-IU noise is so loud, coaches around the country are telling me what they’re hearing: They expect Adidas — IU has a $54 million contract with Adidas through 2024 — to pay Alford’s $7.8 million buyout at UCLA. It too was an Adidas school when UCLA hired Alford in 2013, but the Bruins recently left Adidas for a 15-year, $280 million deal with Under Armour. Adidas would love to return the favor and help Alford leave UCLA. That’s what other coaches are hearing, and telling me.

How hot is Alford’s IU candidacy? So hot that WFNI's Dan Dakich told me in a text message Saturday — with Alford’s third-seeded Bruins preparing to play No. 6 Cincinnati on Sunday — that “the deal (with) Alford is done.”

The whole story: http://www.indystar.com/story/sport...lford-noise-deafening-and-kind-dumb/99361610/

I do not have an Alford obsession. He is doing pretty well at UCLA. Good luck to him.
 
Until this year, Alford wasn't exactly loved by the UCLA fan base. I think that he is a better coach than the results he got at Iowa, but there are better coaches out there. The coach that takes the job better get great results, because a lot of IU fans are delusional. Dakich just likes to talk.

I think this is correct. He has recruited well at UCLA, and he's winning a lot of games. The expectations on him as IU's coach would be extraordinary.
 
With all due respect you are comparing apples to oranges.
If he takes the IU job, I hope he recruits the state of Indiana as well as he did as when he was here.

Idiotic statement. Of course he would recruit better at IU than he could to Iowa. About anyone could.
 
That is a strong list, but can IU attract coaches like Donovan, Miller and Marshall? IU is a school where a good coach will have some success. Whether it will be enough to please the fan base is another story.
 
I hope his plane gets hit by lightning on the flight from LA to Bloomington.
 
My thoughts exactly. Dan Dick Itch reminds me of the dumb jock who hangs out in the local taverns 20 years later with his letter jacket reminiscing about the glory days.

His "color commentary" reeks of self absorption and delusion, and only Bill Walton is more disagreeable to listen to commentate a game than Dick Itch.

Steve Alford is everything you despise about some of these born again, Jesus touting modern day Pharisees we have amongst us. Arrogant, stuck up, self absorbed, delusional--pretty much everything Jesus admonished his followers not to be.

Personally, I think he'll fit in well in a state that elected Mike Pence as governor, as I'm guessing a bunch of California liberals couldn't care less about his Jesus facade. And before anyone responds with the, "Why do you hate Christians?" drivel, I don't. I like true Christians. I am one in training. I just wish more of Jesus's outspoken proponents would actually start behaving more like Jesus and less like Caiaphas.
Several things in this post tell me you have a long ways to go in your "true Christian" training.
 
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Several things in this post tell me you have a long ways to go in your "true Christian" training.

Lol. Of course. Only an arrogant fool believes otherwise.

Regardless, please provide evidence of my point being off base. Otherwise, thank you, Captain Obvious.
 
Lol. Of course. Only an arrogant fool believes otherwise.

Regardless, please provide evidence of my point being off base. Otherwise, thank you, Captain Obvious.
Replace "off base" with "off topic".

Regarding returning to the Hoosier's, I think Alford would be well-served to read a little Thomas Wolfe.
 
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That is a strong list, but can IU attract coaches like Donovan, Miller and Marshall? IU is a school where a good coach will have some success. Whether it will be enough to please the fan base is another story.

Personally, I would love to see Marshall go to Indiana just to be able to watch his wife during games. :)

 
Dakich admitted yesterday he was wrong and nothing is a done deal.
Do you hear this Dodgerhawki? Now what did I say?
I'll concede that someone may have whispered in Dakich's ear to retract what he said and then to shut his big fat mouth, but the point remains that Dakich has retracted what he said meaning he didn't know what he was talking about. The ball is in your court and we'll see what happens next. Oh, and Alford has six new recruits coming in next year and the Ball brother is the lowest ranked of them all. He has two 5 star recruits, three 4 star recruits and the Ball Kid. I'm guessing that he expects some to leave early as he has only 3 seniors departing. The other three new recruits have to displace some existing members. That means Ball, Leaf and one other players is leaving or transferring. That leaves a nucleus of Welch, Holiday, Anigbogu, and Goloman. He replaces those that are lost with the 17th, 24th, 34th, 61st and the 90th ranked recruits along with the Ball brother. The thing is that all of those recruits are 6'7'' except the 5 star 6'1'' guard and the 6'5'' Ball kid. They will compliment the four kids who are between 7'0'' and 6'10'' that come back with experience. Alford is not going to leave because of the talent in his cupboard. But if he does he'll probably take at least one kid with him,the 5 star , 6'7'' 17th rated recruit who lives in Indy.
 
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