Dana Altman..could iowa had him?
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We could only wish Altman would have listened. I have watched Altman coached teams for years and absolutely love the way he coaches defense. I was in shock that Creighton folks were rumbling about his teams and that he was washed up. If you watch Oregon play, it's what Coach Fran would like to be, unfortunately he has not been able to recruit the right athletes to Iowa. The guard play for Iowa has been below average at best. I watched Gesell in HS many times and felt he did not have the potential to be a starting guard in the B1G. Could not believe how high he was rated in HS recruiting sites. At best he looked 5'11" not 6' 2" and was basically unguarded in Neb. HS ball. If Tyler Ullis had chose Iowa this would be a different discussion. Altman has finally got the athletes at Oregon and this man can coach some B-ball.
No. Definitely would not have wanted Dana. No way, no how.
He got incredibly lucky and landed a WELL supported good gid. Lucky him.
He got incredibly lucky and landed a WELL supported good gid. Lucky him.
wow, you are crazy.
YES way, YES how we would have wanted him. He seemed intent on staying at Creighton tho, remember that whole Arkansas fiasco?
That being said, he got lucky landing that gig? Yeah, NO. He pretty much have had his pick of any top tier job in the country for a LONG while. I remember it being sort of a shock he took the Oregon job when he took it actually.
YES way, YES how we would have wanted him. He seemed intent on staying at Creighton tho, remember that whole Arkansas fiasco?
That being said, he got lucky landing that gig? Yeah, NO. He pretty much have had his pick of any top tier job in the country for a LONG while. I remember it being sort of a shock he took the Oregon job when he took it actually.
Call me crazy. I guess I never really cared to much for Altman. That said, I do not really care to elaborate...
And apparently you have not paid attention to the money flowing at Nike... er Oregon the last several years. If you throw enough, it will stick.
Woah Pig. Still laugh at that one. That whole circus was interesting to watch.
And apparently you have not paid attention to the money flowing at Nike... er Oregon the last several years. If you throw enough, it will stick.
Woah Pig. Still laugh at that one. That whole circus was interesting to watch.
Hard to compete with 100 different uniform combinations and Phil Knight's checkbook whenever new facilities are needed. As Omahawki stated, guard play of other teams is on another planet compared to Iowa's. Really overall athleticism is off the charts with some of these teams when you see dudes flying in to dunk misses, swat shots, drive, spin and hit jumpers. With that being said, Perry Ellis' mid-range jumper game was equally impressive.
+1. The committee did Nike University a huge favor with that region their in. Altman might be a fine coach, but with the resources and bling Nike offers, no reason why they shouldn't be a top seed every year.
Nike $$ certainly is nice but could Lick have been successful at Oregon?
Why did he leave Creighton? Was it because it was being "forced" out? I remember he was making pretty good money at Creighton. I know there were schools who had tried to get him to leave and the school would throw more and more $$ at him. I remember some fans who were upset because they never could get past the 1st weekend in the tournament (ala Dr Tom).
I remember when he left for Arkansas and thought that was the worst move ever. It didn't last long of course.
I remember when he left for Arkansas and thought that was the worst move ever. It didn't last long of course.
Doubt it, he still has yet to figure out how to coach in game situations, so doubt that will ever change!
Unbelievable. Even a thread about Dana Altman turns into bash fast on MG. impressive to say the least.
Funny how some Hawk "fans" spin things into something negative all the time. Altman has basically the success record that Fran does at Iowa. 1-NIT and 4- Trips to the NCAA tournaments in 6 years there. This by far is his best run...a good seed will do that for you. If he was in Iowa with that record, a number of "fans" would be questioning "could Iowa have gotten Coach________".
The PAC-12 is so awful that the Oregon success is not that all surprising. There first three games in the tourney this year are "should-win" games. It wasn't that long ago that Duke was not a lock to get into the tourney.
And by the way to the above poster....Gesell was a very good addition to the Iowa team. He was nationally recognized as a high school aged player. Tyler Ulis is a good player...he also is benefitted with playing with some of the best college players every year. You would look a lot better if you strolled around with a better looking girl on your arm than the next guy. Gesell will be missed terribly next year. If that position goes from 2-3 turnovers and 7 assists a game to 6-7 turnovers and 4 assists per game, that will be a gigantic problem. Good luck on your talent evaluation skills
I agree, Mike is now an alumnus of the University of Iowa and a former basketball player. I have enjoyed the teams he has played on the past four years. It is time to wish him well and move on to next year.
No, No, No, not the same...
(In April 2010, Dana Altman from Creighton University was hired to replace Ernie Kent after a month long search.[22][23] Altman led the Ducks to a CBI championship in his first year at Oregon and led the Ducks to the Sweet 16 during the 2012–13 season. Altman led the Ducks back to the NCAA Tournament in the 2013–14 season where they defeated BYU but fell to Wisconsin in the round of 32. It was their 12th NCAA tournament appearance and was the first time Oregon won tournament games in back to back seasons in program history. In 2014-2015, Altman won his 2nd Pac-12 Coach of the Year in three seasons, as he had won the award in 2013. Altman also broke another school record as he became the first coach in Oregon history to go to three consecutive NCAA Tournaments (2013, 2014, 2015). Altman's success continued into the following season as Oregon won the 2015–16 regular season title, finishing 14-4 in league play. Altman also won the 2015-2016 Pac-12 Coach of the Year for the third time in four years. Lute Olson had been the only other coach in Pac-12 history to win the award three times in a four year span.
The 2015-2016 season was very noteworthy, with the Ducks emerging victorious in the 2015-2016 Pac-12 Conference Tournament. This led to the Ducks being the top seed in the West Regional of the 2015-2016 NCAA tournament, its first ever top seeding in the NCAA tournament. The Ducks defeated Holy Cross and Saint Joseph's in the first two rounds of the NCAA tournament to advance to the Sweet 16 in Anaheim, where they defeated the number four seed and defending national champion Duke Blue Devils 82-68.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Ducks_men's_basketball
But, it's not like Oregon had some kind of crazy success under Ernie Kent. In his 13 years they had two Elite 8's, three 1st round losses and a couple of NIT bids. His last 6 years, 1 Elite 8, 1 1st round loss and 3 .500 or worse records.
Altman may have walked into a sleeping giant, but he didn't walk into an existing power.
That is opinion....and yours of course...but do respect it even if I may disagree.
He was a winner at Kansas State, too, but he got out ahead of the posse. He wasn't winning enough for those guys.
People think Fran should get better point guards. It's not that he hasn't tried to. They have to want to come here. Iowa hadn't done anthing in awhile when Fran was hired so no good athletic point guard outside the immediate area was going to come here. Now that the program is back to a NCAA tournament team he should be able to get better recruits. He's done well so far with what he's been able to bring in but it is time to step it up in recruiting. Cook is a good start, just need that point guard.
Getting a plaque for Coach of the Year is worth just that a plaque. He has gotten to the NIT and the NCAA. He got booted in the 2nd round twice, just like Fran. He got to the Sweet 16 once and is not benefitting (rightfully so) from a 1 seed. The PAC-10 is a dumpster fire for basketball right now.....terrible. He is definitely a good coach, but slow down on him being something upper crust. Beating Holy Cross, St. Joes, and a Duke team that is probably the worst one in years is nothing earth shattering.
You don't need to have great talent evaluation skills to see that the Hawks need to upgrade they're guards. Especially in the critical last minutes of games it showed.
I'm pretty sure an outright conference championship, 2 conf tourney championships, a sweet 16, and an elite 8+ so far is quite a bit better than what Fran has accomplished.
Comparing Pac10 and B10 basketball is like apples and oranges. Tourney seeding is so important to advance. Granted the Ducks have done what they are supposed to do. Not saying he isn't a good coach, but his resume is far from elite.
He's a good coach who's done well with the situations he's been given.
Now he's in an even better spot. Spend Phil Knight's money. Regional programs not great currently, less competition. Decent location to recruit to.
And he's making the most of his opportunity.
Would he have done the same at Iowa? Hard to know. A lot of different variables.
I would have had no problem if he'd have been the hire. But at the time I would have said the same thing about any number of other coaches not named licklighter or alford.
Now he's in an even better spot. Spend Phil Knight's money. Regional programs not great currently, less competition. Decent location to recruit to.
And he's making the most of his opportunity.
Would he have done the same at Iowa? Hard to know. A lot of different variables.
I would have had no problem if he'd have been the hire. But at the time I would have said the same thing about any number of other coaches not named licklighter or alford.
I give Dana credit. I also give credit to the overall "elevated" focus on Oregon athletics. Like Oklahoma State, Oregon has a big time donor who decided to start dumping a ton of money into Oregon athletics in the early 1990s.
I used to live in Oregon in the early 1990s and interest level in the program by fans... And competitiveness... Was not much more than a really good junior college program...
Mr. Nike then decided he wanted to see Oregon athletics elevated... It started with football and has continued to basketball.
Yes Dana can coach... Like football, it's interesting Oregon is all of a sudden able to bring in kids they never could have or would have touched before.
Oregon is basically buying it's way to relevancy.
I used to live in Oregon in the early 1990s and interest level in the program by fans... And competitiveness... Was not much more than a really good junior college program...
Mr. Nike then decided he wanted to see Oregon athletics elevated... It started with football and has continued to basketball.
Yes Dana can coach... Like football, it's interesting Oregon is all of a sudden able to bring in kids they never could have or would have touched before.
Oregon is basically buying it's way to relevancy.
Kruger is like 70-something and has never spent more than a handful of years at any school.
Would absolutely hate to have a guy like that at Iowa.
He spent 7 years at UNLV and has been at Oklahoma for 5 years. Those time periods are much longer than the average Joe.
I would take Kruger in a second.
Kruger is definitely a nomad coach as he's had a ton of jobs, but odd enough he's only 63.
When you get your first D-I head coaching job at age 30.....it seems like you are old as dirt after you have been coaching as long as he has.
As for Dana Altman. A lot of people questioned if he could win outside of the comforts of Creighton. They had a built in advantage in the Missouri Valley (ex - budget is double most programs). With that, his record at Oregon has been very good. Nike money sure helps, but he's done well with it.
When you get your first D-I head coaching job at age 30.....it seems like you are old as dirt after you have been coaching as long as he has.
As for Dana Altman. A lot of people questioned if he could win outside of the comforts of Creighton. They had a built in advantage in the Missouri Valley (ex - budget is double most programs). With that, his record at Oregon has been very good. Nike money sure helps, but he's done well with it.
Did anyone catch the post game on-court interviews after the Oregon game? Maybe it was just me but Kruger sounded terrible in terms of his speech like he had suffered multiple strokes. I was trying to decide who I could actually understand more of what they were saying between Buddy & Lon. Buddy is tough to listen but I know he is from the Bahamas.
Altman exited Creighton for Arkansas, after Iowa hired a coach for a gig in Iowa City. Pig suey! His return to Omaha wasn't the same.
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Worthywish, you must understand coecum sleeps in his black and gold pjs every night and cuddles with his black and gold teddy bear. Every Iowa coach is the very best.
Of course the record is far better than Fran's--not even debatable. Fran's never made one Sweet 16 yet in about 20 years of being a head coach at the college level.
Dont argue with the clown omaha. You have forgotten more than that asshat will ever know.
