Dana Altman to the Final Four...
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Altman wouldn't have had anymore success than Fran. That's a fact.
Unless Altman cheats while at Iowa. Then that changes the game.....
Unless Altman cheats while at Iowa. Then that changes the game.....
Having Phil knight in your back pocket helps.
I CAN say that's a fact because I just did.....
Oregon also has more money to throw around than Iowa.
None of those guys at Oregon right now would ever come to play for Altman at Iowa. Facts.
I wish I had your crystal ball
... he had a lot of success at Creighton too. I think he would have done pretty well here also.And if you just heard their interviews, you don't want them here representing this school either
I seem to remember hearing that he had made it known to the "right people" that he was very interested in the Iowa job when Alford left. At least that's what I remember here in Omaha, whether or not it's actually true. Of course, Barta went another direction, which we'd all rather forget.
But I agree that Altman would not have had the $ame $ucce$$ at Iowa that he'$ had with the Duck$...
But I agree that Altman would not have had the $ame $ucce$$ at Iowa that he'$ had with the Duck$...
Not as bad as Iowa. They had still-recent deep tourney runs, and weren't as far underwater. They did have some young talent on the roster when Altman took over. Outside of Marble, who was a diamond in the rough, and Gatens who was only there because he was a legacy, Iowa was pretty depleted. Fran brought Basabe with him.... These were the BromArch days...
Dana Altman over Todd Linkliter would have been great, but didn't happen.
It would be great to see him win a NCAA title.
#Until
It would be great to see him win a NCAA title.
#Until
Dana Altman spent 16 years at Creighton and went
to the NCAA Tournament 7 times. He had a great
run in the Missouri Valley Conference before going
to Oregon. At the age of 58, this could be his last
chance to win it all this season. He is a humble
coach who always gives the credit to his players for
the wins.
to the NCAA Tournament 7 times. He had a great
run in the Missouri Valley Conference before going
to Oregon. At the age of 58, this could be his last
chance to win it all this season. He is a humble
coach who always gives the credit to his players for
the wins.
I drove down to the Iowa-Oregon game in NIT. Oregon has a really flashy new B-ball facility. Also better designed so I think it probably is lot better for crowd noise.
Iowa led Oregon at half if memory serves me well and then imploded in 2nd half. Altman had more athletes back then and he has recruited better than Fran. He had big hiccup with the Rape incident by some transfers a few years back. So those that didn't like PP, wouldn't have been fans of Altman.
I think Oregon is easier to recruit because it has Nike Money/special support and can get access to California recruits.
Iowa led Oregon at half if memory serves me well and then imploded in 2nd half. Altman had more athletes back then and he has recruited better than Fran. He had big hiccup with the Rape incident by some transfers a few years back. So those that didn't like PP, wouldn't have been fans of Altman.
I think Oregon is easier to recruit because it has Nike Money/special support and can get access to California recruits.
11 years ago, right after Alford left Iowa, Altman's name immediately was mentioned for the Iowa job. And yes, the word was that the Iowa job really interested him.
However, I remember the vast majority of the Iowa fan base didn't want Altman--I think he was viewed upon as just too plain vanilla.
The guy is a solid coach.
Yep, that's my recollection. There were a few on here that were backers, but most were pretty meh. I remember Majerus being the object of a lot of strong interest on the board. Unfortunately, Barta landed the "National Coach of the Year," and the rest was history, as they say...
Not getting the Iowa job, he bolted for Arkansas for a day, but realized, not for him and remained in Omaha for 3 more years.
He is doing well in Oregon. Greg McDermott has been a good replacement for Dana at CU.
As well as Oregon? No.I wish I had your crystal ball
He is a Nebraska native, so why return to Kansas? I doubt that would be the Jayhawks' choice for next coach.
fwiw
Altman is 58 years old. How the hell long do you think he plans to coach to wait for the Kansas job to open? Self is younger than Altman and also the fact there's zero evidence ever Bill Self has any inclination whatsoever to leave Lawrence. Those close to the Jayhawk program believe Self will retire at KU--and that will be another 10+ years.
We don't, but Fry, I would reply to tje person who suggested such, not reply to me, who doubts KU would ever have considered Altman at any time.
sorry cid, lol.... my comment was based on some Kansas fans who feel that Self is gone, and that Altman could come back to his Neb/Kansas roots and take over a blue blood program and be consistently in the Final Four playing for championships.
I was one of those who wanted him (both times). His track record looked better then and over the last 7 years they are on totally different levels. I knew
this thread would evoke the usual excuses about money (Knight) and recruiting but just watch the tactics and decision making comparison. That said, I thought he made a mistake by how he ended that game last night. If Kansas had maintained their composure and made some shots, they could have easily overcome the deficit.
Dana Altman made right move at the end of the day. Hopefully, he lands the trophy this year, as Oregon enters Final 4 for first time, in 78 years ...
I truly think Altman is a fantastic X and o coach.
I believe him and Chris Mack at Xavier are the two most under appreciated X and o bench coaches in America.
I highly doubt, however, Altman would have been able to recruit at the same caliber at Iowa as he's been able to at Oregon. He has gotten lots of Los Angeles kids to travel not far north to Oregon and that's certainly impacted lots. He would not have been able to do the same at Iowa as it relates to the LA kids.
I agree with you that he did take the momentum away from his team the last several minutes by trying to completely milk the clock offensively to the last couple seconds on the shot clock, and it ended up in bad shots. But looking at the big picture of yesterday's game, that win by Oregon over Kansas to me was the most dominant and impressive victory of the entire tourney so far.
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Marshall (Southern Conference) (1989–1990)
1989–90 Marshall 15–13 9–5 2nd
Marshall: 15–13 (.536) 9–5 (.643)
Kansas State (Big 8 Conference) (1990–1994)
1990–91 Kansas State 13–15 3–11 8th
1991–92 Kansas State 16–14 5–9 T–6th NIT 2nd Round
1992–93 Kansas State 19–11 7–7 T–5th NCAA First Round
1993–94 Kansas State 20–14 4–10 T–6th NIT Semifinals
Kansas State: 68–54 (.557) 19–37 (.339)
Creighton (Missouri Valley Conference) (1994–2010)
1994–95 Creighton 7–19 4–14 T–9th
1995–96 Creighton 14–15 9–9 T–5th
1996–97 Creighton 15–15 10–8 T–6th
1997–98 Creighton 18–10 12–6 2nd NIT First Round
1998–99 Creighton 22–9 11–7 T–2nd NCAA Second Round
1999–00 Creighton 23–10 11–7 4th NCAA First Round
2000–01 Creighton 24–8 14–4 1st NCAA First Round
2001–02 Creighton 23–9 14–4 T–1st NCAA Second Round
2002–03 Creighton 29–5 15–3 2nd NCAA First Round
2003–04 Creighton 20–9 12–6 T–2nd NIT First Round
2004–05 Creighton 23–11 11–7 T–3rd NCAA First Round
2005–06 Creighton 20–10 12–6 T–2nd NIT Second Round
2006–07 Creighton 22–11 13–5 2nd NCAA First Round
2007–08 Creighton 22–11 10–8 4th NIT Second Round
2008–09 Creighton 27–8 14–4 T–1st NIT Second Round
2009–10 Creighton 18–16 10–8 4th CIT Semifinals
Creighton: 327–176 (.650) 178–107 (.625)
Oregon (Pacific-10/Pac-12 Conference) (2010–Present)
2010–11 Oregon 21–18 7–11 T–7th CBI Champions
2011–12 Oregon 24–10 13–5 T–2nd NIT Quarterfinals
2012–13 Oregon 28–9 12–6 T–2nd NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2013–14 Oregon 24–10 10–8 T–3rd NCAA Third Round
2014–15 Oregon 26–10 13–5 T–2nd NCAA Third Round
2015–16 Oregon 31–7 14–4 1st NCAA Elite Eight
2016–17 Oregon 33–5 16–2 T-1st NCAA Final Four
Oregon: 187–69 (.730) 85–41 (.675)
Total: 597–312 (.657)
Think Dana would have done quite well at Iowa. He's an excellent coach.
Marshall (Southern Conference) (1989–1990)
1989–90 Marshall 15–13 9–5 2nd
Marshall: 15–13 (.536) 9–5 (.643)
Kansas State (Big 8 Conference) (1990–1994)
1990–91 Kansas State 13–15 3–11 8th
1991–92 Kansas State 16–14 5–9 T–6th NIT 2nd Round
1992–93 Kansas State 19–11 7–7 T–5th NCAA First Round
1993–94 Kansas State 20–14 4–10 T–6th NIT Semifinals
Kansas State: 68–54 (.557) 19–37 (.339)
Creighton (Missouri Valley Conference) (1994–2010)
1994–95 Creighton 7–19 4–14 T–9th
1995–96 Creighton 14–15 9–9 T–5th
1996–97 Creighton 15–15 10–8 T–6th
1997–98 Creighton 18–10 12–6 2nd NIT First Round
1998–99 Creighton 22–9 11–7 T–2nd NCAA Second Round
1999–00 Creighton 23–10 11–7 4th NCAA First Round
2000–01 Creighton 24–8 14–4 1st NCAA First Round
2001–02 Creighton 23–9 14–4 T–1st NCAA Second Round
2002–03 Creighton 29–5 15–3 2nd NCAA First Round
2003–04 Creighton 20–9 12–6 T–2nd NIT First Round
2004–05 Creighton 23–11 11–7 T–3rd NCAA First Round
2005–06 Creighton 20–10 12–6 T–2nd NIT Second Round
2006–07 Creighton 22–11 13–5 2nd NCAA First Round
2007–08 Creighton 22–11 10–8 4th NIT Second Round
2008–09 Creighton 27–8 14–4 T–1st NIT Second Round
2009–10 Creighton 18–16 10–8 4th CIT Semifinals
Creighton: 327–176 (.650) 178–107 (.625)
Oregon (Pacific-10/Pac-12 Conference) (2010–Present)
2010–11 Oregon 21–18 7–11 T–7th CBI Champions
2011–12 Oregon 24–10 13–5 T–2nd NIT Quarterfinals
2012–13 Oregon 28–9 12–6 T–2nd NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2013–14 Oregon 24–10 10–8 T–3rd NCAA Third Round
2014–15 Oregon 26–10 13–5 T–2nd NCAA Third Round
2015–16 Oregon 31–7 14–4 1st NCAA Elite Eight
2016–17 Oregon 33–5 16–2 T-1st NCAA Final Four
Oregon: 187–69 (.730) 85–41 (.675)
Total: 597–312 (.657)
Think Dana would have done quite well at Iowa. He's an excellent coach.
Didn't recall him being that bad at KSU. Did he get fired or take the Creighton job because he knew he was going to get fired?
I like Altman, obviously he would have been a far superior choice to John Lickliters dad.
Unfortunately Gary Barta is our AD. Fran is about the only thing hes not screwed up.
Unfortunately Gary Barta is our AD. Fran is about the only thing hes not screwed up.
I do believe the brand of basketball Dana Altman plays would have worked well at Iowa.
He is doing well at Oregon and his window was closed at Iowa, when Todd Lickliter was hired.
The rest has been history ... we enjoy the work of Fran McCaffery instead.
On Iowa!
Oregon won the 1st NCAA Championship game, and now they have a chance to win the last
I bet a lot of kids have wanted to play for The Fighting Nike's thru the years...all they needed was a coach with a pedigree, and here they are, final 4.
Oregon won the 1st NCAA Championship game, and now they have a chance to win the last
Only 2 teams in Evanston. This is first real Final 4 for Oregon
I CAN say that's a fact because I just did.....
Oregon also has more money to throw around than Iowa.
None of those guys at Oregon right now would ever come to play for Altman at Iowa. Facts.
Fact.... I watched Creighton for many years here in Omaha and your comments make me believe you have not. Altman actually teaches pressing & aggressive defense and I have no doubt he would have had some success at Iowa. Fran needs to scrap the theory that his teams can just outscore teams with a position-less motion offense and minimal defense and weak rebounding. The Hawks have a lot of young talent coming back and to this point in his tenure I have seen some good offensive teams & very poor defensive teams and an inconsistent effort in games. Altman is no doubt more highly regarded in coaching circles and I could care less if the players are all Rhodes Scholars if they can bring championships.
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