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Slavery in 1492 was as common as smoking in the 1960's . I'm not saying it was right, I'm not saying it was okay, I'm just saying it happened and it was normal for the time. Our attitude towards smoking has changed dramatically in the last 50 years from doctors prescribing it, and employees doing it at their jobs, inside NASA, to you can't do it in most public places, just as our attitude towards slavery has changed in the last 500 years.
So, now you're equating slavery with smoking?!? One that was a choice and the other forced upon people?!?

This may be your worse deflection ever. Congratulations.
 
So, now you're equating slavery with smoking?!? One that was a choice and the other forced upon people?!?

This may be your worse deflection ever. Congratulations.
I knew that's where your pea sized brain would immediately jump to. That was as predictable as the next wrong claim of the end of the planet in 10 years due to climate change.

But I love that it worked. I can see why you believe everything CNN/MSNBC and the rest of the lying liars tell you. From now on I should just respond to you in your native tongue baaaah baaaah baaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
 
The 5 people showing up at his so called rallies isn’t really panicking anyone except their own campaign.
The New York Times says they're well attended

A key message: He’s young and energetic and can serve two terms.​

Mr. DeSantis packed his schedule with three or four rallies per day, covering hundreds of miles in each state and addressing a total of more than 7,000 people, his campaign said.
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The events did not quite have the MAGA-Woodstock energy of Mr. Trump’s arena rallies, but they were lively and well-attended. Tightly orchestrated, too: There was no chowing of hoagies or cozying up to bikers at diners. Up-tempo country music and occasionally cheesy rock (“Chicken Fried” by the Zac Brown Band and “Eye of the Tiger” by Survivor) preceded him onstage.....

Bottom line, you can keep repeating the lies you've heard or believe... but that doesn't make them true.
 
The New York Times says they're well attended

A key message: He’s young and energetic and can serve two terms.​

Mr. DeSantis packed his schedule with three or four rallies per day, covering hundreds of miles in each state and addressing a total of more than 7,000 people, his campaign said.
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The events did not quite have the MAGA-Woodstock energy of Mr. Trump’s arena rallies, but they were lively and well-attended. Tightly orchestrated, too: There was no chowing of hoagies or cozying up to bikers at diners. Up-tempo country music and occasionally cheesy rock (“Chicken Fried” by the Zac Brown Band and “Eye of the Tiger” by Survivor) preceded him onstage.....

Bottom line, you can keep repeating the lies you've heard or believe... but that doesn't make them true.
You have seen his crowds in Iowa, correct? Particularly the one in that little gymnasium in Tama that had maybe 50 people? Dude is getting killed out there. And what’s even funnier is he’s the only alternative to the ultimate piece of shit turd bag Trump.
 
You have seen his crowds in Iowa, correct? Particularly the one in that little gymnasium in Tama that had maybe 50 people? Dude is getting killed out there. And what’s even funnier is he’s the only alternative to the ultimate piece of shit turd bag Trump.
He doesn't care. He will search for something that supports what he wants to believe. And when you prove him wrong, he'll deflect to another subject.
 
He doesn't care. He will search for something that supports what he wants to believe. And when you prove him wrong, he'll deflect to another subject.
The New York Times called him energetic? That might be my reason to drop my subscription.
 
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Watching that social dynamic is very telling. He had the opportunity to greet and make eye contact with nearly everyone going through the line. But instead he never looked a single one in the eyes and nary a greeting to anyone, even the ones who thanked him for serving them. The best he could muster was a strained smile. Such a weird man. He should just go home, there’s no fixing what ails him.
 
A surprise to no one, including his less than a half dozen fans on GIAHORT

According to former Florida GOP Charman Joe Gruters, "The more he is met by people, the more they are not going to like him. The more he’s out there, the more his numbers go down. It’s not a good long-term scenario for him. I fully expected the downfall of his campaign a long time ago.”

While that has been a common refrain since DeSantis hit the campaign trail and people have seen him up-close, GOP insiders describe him as cold and difficult to work with due to his standoffishness
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According to former Florida GOP Charman Joe Gruters, "The more he is met by people, the more they are not going to like him. The more he’s out there, the more his numbers go down. It’s not a good long-term scenario for him. I fully expected the downfall of his campaign a long time ago.”

While that has been a common refrain since DeSantis hit the campaign trail and people have seen him up-close, GOP insiders describe him as cold and difficult to work with due to his standoffishness
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Roger Stone said the same thing. But before the tangential hair splitters show up and make a fuss over us quoting MAGA insiders, Meatball’s complete lack of people skills is obvious to anyone who’s paying attention.
 

Ron DeSantis and his backers paid $95,000 to an Iowa religious leader’s group​


Aug 12 (Reuters) - As Florida Governor Ron DeSantis scrambles to shore up his struggling run for the Republican presidential nomination, he has spent far more than any rival on courting an influential Christian conservative leader and his following in the key early voting state of Iowa.

Trailing far behind former President Donald Trump in national polls and beset by turmoil in his campaign, DeSantis and his advisers are spending heavily in Iowa in hopes of stalling Trump’s momentum by beating him in the state’s caucuses on Jan. 15, where Republicans begin to choose their next presidential nominee. The state’s influential evangelical voting base is crucial to that strategy.

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The DeSantis campaign, a super PAC linked to him and a nonprofit group supporting him together paid $95,000 in recent months to the Family Leader Foundation, an Iowa-based nonprofit led by evangelical leader Bob Vander Plaats, according to campaign finance reports and a document prepared by an Iowa state lawmaker who was helping the Vander Plaats organization raise money for a July 14 presidential candidate forum.

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The document and the amount spent by DeSantis and his allies are previously unreported.

For that money, DeSantis and supporting groups got three pages of advertisements in a booklet distributed at the July forum attended by 2,000 Christian conservatives, and tickets to the summit, lunch and an after-dinner event.

But the real value may be more in building a relationship with Vander Plaats, whose endorsement is coveted in the early-voting state, said three campaign finance experts and an academic who studies Iowa campaign spending.

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Vander Plaats and his group are leaders in the state’s Christian conservative movement, which has enormous political influence in Iowa. Roughly two-thirds of the state’s Republican caucus-goers in 2016 identified as evangelical, according to pollsters Edison Media Research.

“It’s a lot more money” than you typically see allocated in Iowa, said Steffen Schmidt, an emeritus political science professor at Iowa State University who studies political spending in the state. “It is a large amount for a very limited exposure in a booklet and for a single event,” he said.


In emailed comments to Reuters, Vander Plaats said the charges were “not even close to exorbitant” for the chance to be promoted before an audience of nearly 2,000 “engaged grassroots activists” at a forum that received extensive national political coverage.

“My only regret is that we probably should have charged more,” he said.


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/de...ious-leaders-group-documents-show-2023-08-12/
 
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No "reset" will fix what's wrong with DeSantis​


“It was clear from the outset that he had no cogent strategy for campaigning against Donald Trump, and was betting that Trump’s supporters — attracted by DeSantis’s overt racism, xenophobia, and message of general resentment — would migrate to him when Trump’s candidacy failed. But as should have been clear to DeSantis from the outset, it was a bad bet to assume Trump would exit the stage.”

 
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No "reset" will fix what's wrong with DeSantis​


“It was clear from the outset that he had no cogent strategy for campaigning against Donald Trump, and was betting that Trump’s supporters — attracted by DeSantis’s overt racism, xenophobia, and message of general resentment — would migrate to him when Trump’s candidacy failed. But as should have been clear to DeSantis from the outset, it was a bad bet to assume Trump would exit the stage.”

Trump is a unique creature. Somehow due to celebrity and this manufactured image as a tough guy business guru from his show on NBC, he can get away with being an abrasive self absorbed numpty who treats those around him horribly. Turns out, he is about the only one who can do this and not lose support. When others try it, they look like idiots and nobody likes them. DeSanctimonious has found this out.
 
Trump is a unique creature. Somehow due to celebrity and this manufactured image as a tough guy business guru from his show on NBC, he can get away with being an abrasive self absorbed numpty who treats those around him horribly. Turns out, he is about the only one who can do this and not lose support. When others try it, they look like idiots and nobody likes them. DeSanctimonious has found this out.

TRUMP is a three or four times in a century level demagogue. His showmanship abilities are off the charts. These others, most of whom would be maxed out at the county commission level, aren’t even in the same stratosphere.
 
The $64,000 question is how long does he stay in the race if the results of the first few primaries match the polling numbers? I don't know that his ego will let him bow out gracefully.
I wonder if his wife would let him drop out.

If he drops out, he seems like someone who would be very angry and lash out at a lot of folks in Florida. Hopefully the FL legislature wouldn’t be so afraid of him at that point.
 
The $64,000 question is how long does he stay in the race if the results of the first few primaries match the polling numbers? I don't know that his ego will let him bow out gracefully.

He won’t quit but the money will dry up and he will become even more irrelevant.
 
I wonder if his wife would let him drop out.

If he drops out, he seems like someone who would be very angry and lash out at a lot of folks in Florida. Hopefully the FL legislature wouldn’t be so afraid of him at that point.

I think we are already seeing this with his latest removal of the Orange County prosecutor. We shouldn’t be surprised if Meatball goes on a revenge rampage across Florida in the next few weeks.
 
I wonder if his wife would let him drop out.

If he drops out, he seems like someone who would be very angry and lash out at a lot of folks in Florida. Hopefully the FL legislature wouldn’t be so afraid of him at that point.
I think we are already seeing this with his latest removal of the Orange County prosecutor. We shouldn’t be surprised if Meatball goes on a revenge rampage across Florida in the next few weeks.
I stated earlier that I fear he will go scorched earth here when his campaign spectacularly fails. He is mini-Trump and will handle defeat similarly.
 
I stated earlier that I fear he will go scorched earth here when his campaign spectacularly fails. He is mini-Trump and will handle defeat similarly.
The great news is, if he does lose, we just get more time with him as governor... ya know while he's just kicking so much ass here, we love him so much, he should just get the state constitution changed so he can have a third or fourth term as governor... RDS4LIFE!
 
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