DeVries and WV upset #2 Iowa State

[Beattheohiostate]

Beth could have canned Fran last year and hired DeVries. Instead . . . .

West Virginia held ISU to 1-17 from three. That's 5.9%. Meanwhile, Iowa lets teams shoot 67% and hit 21 threes in ONE game . . . game after game. WV also had 14 steals. They call that "defense," I think.

The attendance in Morgantown was 14,444--or about what Iowa's men draw in 3 or 4 games.

I have no idea if there's any way DeVries could be brought to Iowa City next year, but Beth should be making every effort to make it happen, even if it would be a year late . . .

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

I'm not sure what makes anyone think that Devries would have been interested in taking the Iowa job. He is highly marketable and can be quite selective. Going to a program that hasn't experienced a high level of success and that has a poor fanbase that doesn't show up to games doesn't seem like a good move.

 

[Bank of Hawk]

Not to defend Fran but Iowa led nearly wire to wire when the clowns were in Iowa City… winning on the road is challenging

 

[jonesy5960]

Not to defend Fran but Iowa led nearly wire to wire when the clowns were in Iowa City… winning on the road is challenging

They lost that game because they got absolutely smoked on the boards, just like they have virtually every game vs quality opponents. It's boys vs men when the Iowa Hawkeyes come to town. Can't defend. Can't rebound when they do.

335th in the country in rebound margin.

 

[SA_Hawk]

Darian DeVries' contract with West Virginia University (WVU) includes a buyout clause that requires him to pay 37.5% of his remaining salary if he leaves the team for another job.

 

[AmericaNeedsMe]

I'm not sure what makes anyone think that Devries would have been interested in taking the Iowa job. He is highly marketable and can be quite selective. Going to a program that hasn't experienced a high level of success and that has a poor fanbase that doesn't show up to games doesn't seem like a good move.

Pure delusion.

There are people here who think Chris Collins would leave Northwestern to coach here. Why? They can't say other than ...it's Iowa. lol

You know damn well there are idiots out there who truly believe we could hire Bruce Pearl right now if we really wanted to.

Pretty much every fan base over rates the attractiveness of their program. Look at Indiana fans, e.g., if you need to see some extreme delusion. But jeezus....people....

It's the same thing when Fran was hired. 90% of the fan base was surprised that we "settled" for some no name dude from some no name Catholic school out east. lol

This ain't Kentucky. Hell, this ain't even Marquette or Creighton. Jay Wright ain't walking through that door.

Is the current administration clever enough to find Iowa's version of Bo Ryan? I hope so but I'm not wagering large sums on it.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

Beth could have canned Fran last year and hired DeVries. Instead . . . .

West Virginia held ISU to 1-17 from three. That's 5.9%. Meanwhile, Iowa lets teams shoot 67% and hit 21 threes in ONE game . . . game after game. WV also had 14 steals. They call that "defense," I think.

The attendance in Morgantown was 14,444--or about what Iowa's men draw in 3 or 4 games.

I have no idea if there's any way DeVries could be brought to Iowa City next year, but Beth should be making every effort to make it happen, even if it would be a year late . . .

Reading how his son played 8-9 games. Been out indefinitely with an upper body injury. Had shoulder surgery after last year. I bet if he doesn’t play the rest of the year he gets medical hardship waiver and able to get another year (like jbo did).

 

[onlyTheObvious]

Real leadership would have fired Fran and hired this guy.

Iowa crying poor is so laughable with the tv money rolling in.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Not to defend Fran but Iowa led nearly wire to wire when the clowns were in Iowa City… winning on the road is challenging

So is winning in the NCAAT...........

 

[intrepodor]

Darian DeVries' contract with West Virginia University (WVU) includes a buyout clause that requires him to pay 37.5% of his remaining salary if he leaves the team for another job.

I don't think he's going anywhere

 

[HawkLogic]

They lost that game because they got absolutely smoked on the boards, just like they have virtually every game vs quality opponents. It's boys vs men when the Iowa Hawkeyes come to town. Can't defend. Can't rebound when they do.

335th in the country in rebound margin.

The small ball lineup hasn't worked.

 

[HawkLogic]

Pure delusion.

There are people here who think Chris Collins would leave Northwestern to coach here. Why? They can't say other than ...it's Iowa. lol

You know damn well there are idiots out there who truly believe we could hire Bruce Pearl right now if we really wanted to.

Pretty much every fan base over rates the attractiveness of their program. Look at Indiana fans, e.g., if you need to see some extreme delusion. But jeezus....people....

It's the same thing when Fran was hired. 90% of the fan base was surprised that we "settled" for some no name dude from some no name Catholic school out east. lol

This ain't Kentucky. Hell, this ain't even Marquette or Creighton. Jay Wright ain't walking through that door.

Is the current administration clever enough to find Iowa's version of Bo Ryan? I hope so but I'm not wagering large sums on it.

You are pulling some things out of the air. The overall tone on the board after Lickliter was replaced was hopefull and very glad to see a coach that was the opposite of slowball. You say 90% thought we settled and that is ridiculously overstated. Yes you can find some people that are ingorant of realities in the college coaching job market that will overstate Iowa's ability to attract experienced/successful P5 coaches. The proposed shared revenue numbers I saw published show Iowa well into the Upper 1/2 of B1G. In the end money talks and you need NIL to get players. Iowa will be attractive destination for a mid major coach to take a $3-$4 million/yr payday which is a huge bump up from Mid major pay. Add in the longevity/reputation for patience in building a prrogram---the money Fran made is life changing wealth from what he was making at Sienna.

Anyway why can't you debate on an intellectual level instead of resorting to mocking posters? It is often a tactic of someone unsure of their own intelligence. You post some good stuff. Don't be an ass 100 percent of the time.

 

[jonesy5960]

The small ball lineup hasn't worked.

It was really bad before they went to a 3 guard lineup.

 

[AmericaNeedsMe]

You are pulling some things out of the air. The overall tone on the board after Lickliter was replaced was hopefull and very glad to see a coach that was the opposite of slowball. You say 90% thought we settled and that is ridiculously overstated. Yes you can find some people that are ingorant of realities in the college coaching job market that will overstate Iowa's ability to attract experienced/successful P5 coaches. The proposed shared revenue numbers I saw published show Iowa well into the Upper 1/2 of B1G. In the end money talks and you need NIL to get players. Iowa will be attractive destination for a mid major coach to take a $3-$4 million/yr payday which is a huge bump up from Mid major pay. Add in the longevity/reputation for patience in building a prrogram---the money Fran made is life changing wealth from what he was making at Sienna.

Anyway why can't you debate on an intellectual level instead of resorting to mocking posters? It is often a tactic of someone unsure of their own intelligence. You post some good stuff. Don't be an ass 100 percent of the time.

Really don't know what I said that makes me an ass. Didn't pull anything out of the air. We have some delusional fans. That's just a fact. The fact that you seem to understand that when the time comes, we're going to be selecting from the ranks of unproven up and comers shows you're not one of them. Congrats.

 

[Underscore2]

Does WV have a good NIL?

If so, how in the world would he succeed at Iowa with the current NIL situation.

Beth.. needs to be focused on the NIL issues first. We need better recruits, better players. She needs to step up figuring out how to use the funds the UI will pay out eventually, and the current situation. And, of course, talking with Fran about what is going on with him, if possible.

I get the feeling he could be lowering the temp of his sideline habits in order to move on more easily. And, I am factoring in, a bit, the CC dating his son thing. That may help, in a small shallow but tanglible way, to get him to something better, if not retirement. Either way I hope she steps this up no matter what options there are to get him out of here.

I have a feeling DeVries could make better use of the team we currently have, though, so I don't mean to pin this all on improving NIL. But that part needs sorting out just as much. We need better players. Period. Full stop.

 

[Ladell-hawk]

Does WV have a good NIL?

If so, how in the world would he succeed at Iowa with the current NIL situation.

Beth.. needs to be focused on the NIL issues first. We need better recruits, better players. She needs to step up figuring out how to use the funds the UI will pay out eventually, and the current situation. And, of course, talking with Fran about what is going on with him, if possible.

I get the feeling he could be lowering the temp of his sideline habits in order to move on more easily. And, I am factoring in, a bit, the CC dating his son thing. That may help, in a small shallow but tanglible way, to get him to something better, if not retirement. Either way I hope she steps this up no matter what options there are to get him out of here.

I have a feeling DeVries could make better use of the team we currently have, though, so I don't mean to pin this all on improving NIL. But that part needs sorting out just as much. We need better players. Period. Full stop.

Hard to see Fran getting hired for a different Head Coaching job at his age.

 

[Mohawkeye]

I'm not sure what makes anyone think that Devries would have been interested in taking the Iowa job. He is highly marketable and can be quite selective. Going to a program that hasn't experienced a high level of success and that has a poor fanbase that doesn't show up to games doesn't seem like a good move.

I assume he has family here and Iowa offers better job security more than most.

 

[83Hawk]

Pure delusion.

There are people here who think Chris Collins would leave Northwestern to coach here. Why? They can't say other than ...it's Iowa. lol

You know damn well there are idiots out there who truly believe we could hire Bruce Pearl right now if we really wanted to.

Pretty much every fan base over rates the attractiveness of their program. Look at Indiana fans, e.g., if you need to see some extreme delusion. But jeezus....people....

It's the same thing when Fran was hired. 90% of the fan base was surprised that we "settled" for some no name dude from some no name Catholic school out east. lol

This ain't Kentucky. Hell, this ain't even Marquette or Creighton. Jay Wright ain't walking through that door.

Is the current administration clever enough to find Iowa's version of Bo Ryan? I hope so but I'm not wagering large sums on it.

Oh, well then…..Iowa shouldn’t even try.

We’re just poor li’l Iowa. No good players or coaches would ever want to come here. It is delusional to think the Hawks could ever compete for anything of significance. Nope, just can’t do it.

I’ll bet at one time Iowa State fans were saying “Johnny Orr ain’t walking thru that door”.

 

[Iafootballfan]

Devries and West Virginia have now beat Gonzaga, Arizona, Kansas, and Iowa State. Very impressive resume so far

 

[Garzatough85]

Real leadership would have fired Fran and hired this guy.

Iowa crying poor is so laughable with the tv money rolling in.

Iowa front office sadly looks a lot like the Chicago Bears’ …Ineffectively indecisive.

 

[hahkize]

Does WV have a good NIL?

Beth.. needs to be focused on the NIL issues first. We need better recruits, better players. .... And, of course, talking with Fran about what is going on with him, if possible.

I get the feeling he could be lowering the temp of his sideline habits in order to move on more easily. And, I am factoring in, a bit, the CC dating his son thing. That may help, in a small shallow but tanglible way, to get him to something better, if not retirement. Either way I hope she steps this up no matter what options there are to get him out of here.

I have a feeling DeVries could make better use of the team we currently have, though, so I don't mean to pin this all on improving NIL. But that part needs sorting out just as much. We need better players. Period. Full stop.

DeVries most definitely could have this team playing at a more competitive level defensively and rebounding.

The NIL and better players argument gets old. Fran and his staff do the recruiting.
They can't get better players b/c of several factors:
1- Fran's demeanor on the sideline and probably at practice as well
2- Fran's actions of playing his sons over others
3- Fran's apparent inability to comprehend what good defense and valuing possession of the ball is (DeVries, Underwood, Gard/Ryan,
Izzo,TJOtz, and others who can compete and win physical games vs good competition)
4- Fran's history of inability to be able to adjust and control a game w/ defense and win in the tournament.
5- Iowa has had NBA players and POY.

Fran has NO history indicating that he could win with the current rosters at Illinois or Iowa State. Lou Henson and Raveling had talented rosters and couldn't win big games on a regular basis.

 

[hahkize]

Not to defend Fran but Iowa led nearly wire to wire when the clowns were in Iowa City… winning on the road is challenging

Early in the year but couldn't hold on when ISU started to get serious w/ about 6-7 minutes left.

 

[Beattheohiostate]

Pure delusion.

There are people here who think Chris Collins would leave Northwestern to coach here. Why? They can't say other than ...it's Iowa. lol

You know damn well there are idiots out there who truly believe we could hire Bruce Pearl right now if we really wanted to.

Pretty much every fan base over rates the attractiveness of their program. Look at Indiana fans, e.g., if you need to see some extreme delusion. But jeezus....people....

It's the same thing when Fran was hired. 90% of the fan base was surprised that we "settled" for some no name dude from some no name Catholic school out east. lol

This ain't Kentucky. Hell, this ain't even Marquette or Creighton. Jay Wright ain't walking through that door.

Is the current administration clever enough to find Iowa's version of Bo Ryan? I hope so but I'm not wagering large sums on it.

Iowa settled for a no-name dude from Wichita State back in the day. His name was Ralph Miller. His 1970 team featured two future NBA all-stars who led Iowa to a 20-5 record, 14-0 in the Big Ten.

And then Iowa hired a no-name dude from that blue blood, Long Beach State. His name was Lute Olson. His 1980 team went to the Final Four and may have won a national title but for an injury to All-American point guard Ronnnie Lester early in the semifinals.

And since you mentioned Bo Ryan, who the hell was he before he turned Wisconsin, a school that had NO basketball legacy whatsoever, into a perennial BIG and national contender, which it still is.

That's the AD's job. Find that guy for Iowa. He's out there, that's for sure.

 

[RocknRollface]

Iowa settled for a no-name dude from Wichita State back in the day. His name was Ralph Miller. His 1970 team featured two future NBA all-stars who led Iowa to a 20-5 record, 14-0 in the Big Ten.

And then Iowa hired a no-name dude from that blue blood, Long Beach State. His name was Lute Olson. His 1980 team went to the Final Four and may have won a national title but for an injury to All-American point guard Ronnnie Lester early in the semifinals.

And since you mentioned Bo Ryan, who the hell was he before he turned Wisconsin, a school that had NO basketball legacy whatsoever, into a perennial BIG and national contender, which it still is.

That's the AD's job. Find that guy for Iowa. He's out there, that's for sure.

You're just reinforcing his point.

It's not that Iowa can't find a good coach, because theres plenty out there, it's that they're not likely going to take a proven good coach from another power conference.

 

[Beattheohiostate]

You're just reinforcing his point.

It's not that Iowa can't find a good coach, because theres plenty out there, it's that they're not likely going to take a proven good coach from another power conference.

And my point is, that wouldn't be necessary, although I'd still have West Virginia's DeVries at the top of my list, and he's not even a full season removed from being the head guy at Drake.

 

[RocknRollface]

And my point is, that wouldn't be necessary, although I'd still have West Virginia's DeVries at the top of my list, and he's not even a full season removed from being the head guy at Drake.

I agree.