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Did the F.B.I. Just Re-Elect Donald Trump?

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Why is Donald Trump so powerful? How did he come to dominate one of the two major parties and get himself elected president? Is it his hair? His waistline? No, it’s his narratives. Trump tells powerful stories that ring true to tens of millions of Americans.
The main one is that America is being ruined by corrupt coastal elites. According to this narrative, there is an interlocking network of highly educated Americans who make up what the Trumpians have come to call the Regime: Washington power players, liberal media, big foundations, elite universities, woke corporations. These people are corrupt, condescending and immoral and are looking out only for themselves. They are out to get Trump because Trump is the person who stands up to them. They are not only out to get Trump; they are out to get you.
This narrative has a core of truth to it. Highly educated metropolitan elites have become something of a self-enclosed Brahmin class. But the Trumpian propaganda turns what is an unfortunate social chasm into venomous conspiracy theory. It simply assumes, against a lot of evidence, that the leading institutions of society are inherently corrupt, malevolent and partisan and are acting in bad faith.
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It simply assumes that the proof of people’s virtue is that they’re getting attacked by the Regime. Trump’s political career has been kept afloat by elite scorn. The more elites scorn him, the more Republicans love him. The key criterion for leadership in the Republican Party today is having the right enemies.

Into this situation walks the F.B.I. There’s a lot we don’t know about the search at Mar-a-Lago. But we do know how the Republican Party reacted. The right side of my Twitter feed was ecstatic. See! We really are persecuted! Essays began to appear with titles like “The Regime Wants Its Revenge.” Ron DeSantis tweeted, “The raid of MAL is another escalation in the weaponization of federal agencies against the Regime’s political opponents.” As usual, the tone was apocalyptic. “This is the worst attack on this Republic in modern history,” the Fox News host Mark Levin exclaimed.
The investigation into Trump was seen purely as a heinous Regime plot. At least for now, the search has shaken the Republican political landscape. Several weeks ago, about half of Republican voters were ready to move on from Trump, according to a New York Times/Siena College poll. This week the entire party seemed to rally behind him. Republican strategists advising Trump’s potential primary opponents had reason to be despondent. “Completely handed him a lifeline,” one such strategist told Politico. “Unbelievable … It put everybody in the wagon for Trump again. It’s just taken the wind out of everybody’s sails.”
According to a Trafalgar Group/Convention of States Action survey, 83 percent of likely Republican voters said the F.B.I. search made them more motivated to vote in the 2022 elections. Over 75 percent of likely Republican voters believed Trump’s political enemies were behind the search rather than the impartial justice system, as did 48 percent of likely general election voters overall.
In a normal society, when politicians get investigated or charged, it hurts them politically. But that no longer applies to the G.O.P. The judicial system may be colliding with the political system in an unprecedented way.



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What happens if a prosecutor charges Trump and he is convicted just as he is cruising to the G.O.P. nomination or maybe even the presidency? What happens if the legal system, using its criteria, decides Trump should go to prison at the very moment that the electoral system, using its criteria, decides he should go to the White House?

I presume in those circumstances Trump would be arrested and imprisoned. I also presume we would see widespread political violence from incensed Trump voters who would conclude that the Regime has stolen the country. In my view, this is the most likely path to a complete democratic breakdown.
In theory, justice is blind, and obviously no person can be above the law. But as Damon Linker wrote in a Substack post, “This is a polity, not a graduate seminar in Kantian ethics.” We live in a specific real-world situation, and we all have to take responsibility for the real-world effects of our actions.
America absolutely needs to punish those who commit crimes. On the other hand, America absolutely needs to make sure that Trump does not get another term as president. What do we do if the former makes the latter more likely? I have no clue how to get out of this potential conflict between our legal and political realities.
We’re living in a crisis of legitimacy, during which distrust of established power is so virulent that actions by elite actors tend to backfire, no matter how well founded they are.
My impression is that the F.B.I. had legitimate reasons to do what it did. My guess is it will find some damning documents that will do nothing to weaken Trump’s support. I’m also convinced that, at least for now, it has unintentionally improved Trump’s re-election chances. It has unintentionally made life harder for Trump’s potential primary challengers and motivated his base.
It feels as though we’re walking toward some sort of storm and there’s no honorable way to alter our course.

 
If this doesn’t lead to Trump behind bars, then yes, I think they either 1) re-elected him or 2) We will see unprecedented violence from the far right over the next couple years.

Thats my fear. They keep poking the bear, eventually you have to kill it before it turns and eats you.
 
I don’t want that man anywhere NEAR the 2024 ballot. But I don’t want Joe on it either.

Unless this action results in hard and conclusive evidence against him I do worry that that will happen.
And like the idiots who are already on the ballot in some state races for R’s it’s not going to end well for them - or for this country.

The stakes are damn high. Can’t we just do what’s best for America for once?
 
If this doesn’t lead to Trump behind bars, then yes, I think they either 1) re-elected him or 2) We will see unprecedented violence from the far right over the next couple years.

Thats my fear. They keep poking the bear, eventually you have to kill it before it turns and eats you.
Unfortunately, you’re correct. And tbh, since there was the Clinton News Network (CNN), conservatives have always rallied around the belief they are victims. You could think of it as the reverse woke-mob, CRT thingy. Shoot, even Nixon got f#cked by that.

So, no, it’s not that President Poongrabber is a criminal who’s rotten to the core. It’s that law enforcement is corrupt (they hate straight white men) and controlled by fascist Democrats. Thankfully, though, conservatives learned from Nixon and now band together to fight the unfair persecution tactics of the loony left. Otherwise, they couldn’t catch a break in socialist America.

Thank god for des-uh-cray—I mean patriots.
 
What in the holy hell has happened that we focus on some very imperfect person who was “done wrong” rather than taking a minute or ten to say “you know what - this is about my country, not some blowhard crybaby”????

I see plenty of these folks around all the time. There’s definitely a “type”. I could go on but I think y’all have similar experience. Others of you are trolls and bots who can’t think and spew extremist left pablum. TRUTH.
 
Unless this action results in hard and conclusive evidence against him I do worry that that will happen.
I agree with you in terms of it being a bad precedent to establish going after former presidents unless the evidence is so overwhelming that it would be a dereliction of duty not to take action. That better be the case here.

As far as the court of public opinion is concerned, I couldn’t disagree more. Trump supporters are idiots and have never been too particularly concerned with reality or the truth, so what would lead anyone to believe they’d start now? Our country and system of government are exceedingly more important than the delicate sensibilities of millions of mental midgets who can’t break away from the cult because they are as stupid as they are cowardly and chicken shit.

Like him or not, agree with his methods and delivery or not, @Chishawk1425 has been proven right every step of the way (sans some hyperbole). He warned this exact thing would happen and here we are. In short, f#ck what the desecrations think.
 
What in the holy hell has happened that we focus on some very imperfect person who was “done wrong” rather than taking a minute or ten to say “you know what - this is about my country, not some blowhard crybaby”????
So, now you understand why liberals and “Never Trump” moderates and Republicans were so adamantly opposed to President Personality Disorder, right?

I mean, it’s okay, goldie, just to say: “I was wrong and regret my vote(s) for the Donald.” Right?

@State of Illinois
 
I agree with you in terms of it being a bad precedent to establish going after former presidents unless the evidence is so overwhelming that it would be a dereliction of duty not to take action. That better be the case here.

As far as the court of public opinion is concerned, I couldn’t disagree more. Trump supporters are idiots and have never been too particularly concerned with reality or the truth, so what would lead anyone to believe they’d start now? Our country and system of government are exceedingly more important than the delicate sensibilities of millions of mental midgets who can’t break away from the cult because they are as stupid as they are cowardly and chicken shit.

Like him or not, agree with his methods and delivery or not, @Chishawk1425 has been proven right every step of the way (sans some hyperbole). He warned this exact thing would happen and here we are. In short, f#ck what the desecrations think.
Many are stupid. I don’t doubt that. But what about the ones who aren’t. Calling them stupid doesn’t help. I know plenty, educated, productive, successful people that are MAGA. This is brainwashing. It’s a cult. I also think Religion is brainwashing, so I don’t see this as being much different. Plenty of very smart people blindly believe much of the nonsense in their respective religions. Why? Many of them have been indoctrinated since birth. You attend classes as a child. Worship every Sunday. Sing and chant in large groups. Now take a population and do the same. Over and over again, daily on Fox News, Rush, Hannity, Beck, Levin. Brainwashed. Saying they are stupid, IMO, is a mistake and a miscalculation Democrats made in 2016.
 
Many are stupid. I don’t doubt that. But what about the ones who aren’t. Calling them stupid doesn’t help. I know plenty, educated, productive, successful people that are MAGA. This is brainwashing. It’s a cult. I also think Religion is brainwashing, so I don’t see this as being much different. Plenty of very smart people blindly believe much of the nonsense in their respective religions. Why? Many of them have been indoctrinated since birth. You attend classes as a child. Worship every Sunday. Sing and chant in large groups. Now take a population and do the same. Over and over again, daily on Fox News, Rush, Hannity, Beck, Levin. Brainwashed. Saying they are stupid, IMO, is a mistake and a miscalculation Democrats made in 2016.
I agree with you in principle 💯. (Even I have struggled to this day with religious indoctrination I received in my youth). With that said, let me share with you something I regularly say to others, which I believe illustrates the significant difference: “I’m smart enough to know how stupid I really am.”

So, yes, I recognize nuance. I really do. I also understand that there are plenty of otherwise intelligent people who have been so radicalized by religion and/or politics that the cognitive dissonance leaves them no other choice than to keep digging. I get it.

With that said, I’m done caring. We don’t sympathize with mass murderers who had a rough childhood anymore than we excuse gang bangers who grew up poor and without a father. The excuses for Trump chumps have long passed the point of being tiresome and nauseating (not to mention ringing hollow). At some point, every individual person must be held accountable for the choices they continue to make. Ironically, not-so ironic, I left evangelism around the time those stupid mother f#ckers started hitching their wagons to Trump. It was intelligible, indisputable evidence of the vanity of their religion, not to mention the stark contrast to the Yeshua of the Bible.

The point? Forrest Gump said it best: “Stupid is as stupid does.” So, yes, you’re goddamn right these people are f#cking stupid.
 
So, now you understand why liberals and “Never Trump” moderates and Republicans were so adamantly opposed to President Personality Disorder, right?

I mean, it’s okay, goldie, just to say: “I was wrong and regret my vote(s) for the Donald.” Right?

@State of Illinois
I’ll say that the US voting public got gobsmacked by two awful choices in 2016 and there was NFW I was ever going to vote for Hillary.
Likewise, having seen Joe in action since 1972 as a young Senator and me as an even younger voter then living in nearby Philly I knew he was a bragging blowhard who only got worse over time and campaigned from a basement. Trump was at least a known entity who I didn’t like but who did get some solidly good stuff done IMO.

Not again. Neither one. For the 50th time turn the page America. Neither of these guys are worthy of our votes.
 
I’ll say that the US voting public got gobsmacked by two awful choices in 2016 and there was NFW I was ever going to vote for Hillary.
Likewise, having seen Joe in action since 1972 as a young Senator and me as an even younger voter then living in nearby Philly I knew he was a bragging blowhard who only got worse over time and campaigned from a basement. Trump was at least a known entity who I didn’t like but who did get some solidly good stuff done IMO.

Not again. Neither one. For the 50th time turn the page America. Neither of these guys are worthy of our votes.
I get it. I really do. I was a big John Kasich supporter in 2016, and in 2020 really rolled my eyes at foot-in-mouth Joe being the best alternative to President Personality Disorder.

All of that said, we are still talking about false equivalency. Trump is on a whole other stratosphere of terrible. We’ve got to respect that reality for what it is. Democrat, Republican—and everything in between—all of us have to be committed to the belief the United States of America is too important to have a dysfunctional, circus clown like Donald J. Trump ever again disgrace the presidency. That has to be nonnegotiable. We’ve seen the danger firsthand, and it’s pretty frightening. And we’re not quite out of the woods yet.

Buckle up.
 
No. It certainly riled up his hardcore base of inbred, angry, toothless, anti-American cult members, but should be the final nail most independent voters. Zero chance Trump wins a legitimate, free and fair election.
 
I get it. I really do. I was a big John Kasich supporter in 2016, and in 2020 really rolled my eyes at foot-in-mouth Joe being the best alternative to President Personality Disorder.

All of that said, we are still talking about false equivalency. Trump is on a whole other stratosphere of terrible. We’ve got to respect that reality for what it is. Democrat, Republican—and everything in between—all of us have to be committed to the belief the United States of America is too important to have a dysfunctional, circus clown like Donald J. Trump ever again disgrace the presidency. That has to be nonnegotiable. We’ve seen the danger firsthand, and it’s pretty frightening. And we’re not quite out of the woods yet.

Buckle up.

No way can either of these VERY OLD
subpar incompetent intellects be elected in 2024.

I think it’s almost irrelevant how each of us arrived at this conclusion. It’s just paramount to AMERICA’S future that younger men and women are allowed to take the lead.
 
I’ll say that the US voting public got gobsmacked by two awful choices in 2016 and there was NFW I was ever going to vote for Hillary.
Likewise, having seen Joe in action since 1972 as a young Senator and me as an even younger voter then living in nearby Philly I knew he was a bragging blowhard who only got worse over time and campaigned from a basement. Trump was at least a known entity who I didn’t like but who did get some solidly good stuff done IMO.

Not again. Neither one. For the 50th time turn the page America. Neither of these guys are worthy of our votes.
Doing a "both sides" awful choices take with Trump compared to a Hillary or a Biden is completely bleeping insane.

I will still catch myself at points in gobsmackment that Donald effing Trump actually became President. Put a game show host crook in charge of the country, it was a national emergency every day he was President, and that's not over-statement or hyperbole.

And yet people will still post nonsense like above from Goldmom. After everything.
 
Doing a "both sides" awful choices take with Trump compared to a Hillary or a Biden is completely bleeping insane.

I will still catch myself at points in gobsmackment that Donald effing Trump actually became President. Put a game show host crook in charge of the country, it was a national emergency every day he was President, and that's not over-statement or hyperbole.

And yet people will still post nonsense like above from Goldmom. After everything.
Not to mention that Biden has actually been quite productive. With a razor thin majority in Congress, he has gotten more done in two years than any president of my lifetime.
 
Doing a "both sides" awful choices take with Trump compared to a Hillary or a Biden is completely bleeping insane.

I will still catch myself at points in gobsmackment that Donald effing Trump actually became President. Put a game show host crook in charge of the country, it was a national emergency every day he was President, and that's not over-statement or hyperbole.

And yet people will still post nonsense like above from Goldmom. After everything.
Amen
 
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Still don't think any Independents will vote for Trump.

We haven't even touched the surface on what happened with evil foreign leaders at Mar A Lago.

I have a feeling any new info coming out will shock even hard core Republicans.

This investigation is far from over. It's only going to get worse for Turd.
 
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Doing a "both sides" awful choices take with Trump compared to a Hillary or a Biden is completely bleeping insane.

I will still catch myself at points in gobsmackment that Donald effing Trump actually became President. Put a game show host crook in charge of the country, it was a national emergency every day he was President, and that's not over-statement or hyperbole.

And yet people will still post nonsense like above from Goldmom. After everything.

Okay. I see you’re a one note troll who apparently lacks interpretive skills.
I don’t see that as my problem to solve.
 
Doing a "both sides" awful choices take with Trump compared to a Hillary or a Biden is completely bleeping insane.

I will still catch myself at points in gobsmackment that Donald effing Trump actually became President. Put a game show host crook in charge of the country, it was a national emergency every day he was President, and that's not over-statement or hyperbole.

And yet people will still post nonsense like above from Goldmom. After everything.

The fact that Chis and Huey gave you a like just proves my point.
Congrats!
 
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