Did they change the traveling rules?
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Yea the whole take a 1 step then jump stop & pivot. Or the hop, then take 2 steps & dribble I find the most annoying. Some refs call either traveling depending on the if the jump stop is staggered or if they are trying to make a point that the hop then 2 steps is something they plan on calling through out the game.
Except that the rule still exists. Ask White. All he did against Davidson was take a wide pivot, pivot foot anchored to the floor, and guess what? He was called for TRAVELING. Meanwhile, as the OP correctly observes, players play hop scotch all over the freaking lane and that's NOT traveling. So I guess that's what you mean when you say it's "pathetic."
Duke does not travel. They walk on water. Just ask anyone at ESPN or the announcers on CBS
I'd probably take that 1 step further. Woodbury was called for a 3 sec in the lane violation against Davidson, but against Gonzaga, their bigs were allowed to setup campfires, have marshmellows & smores while in the lane. It doesn't matter tho, we are supposed to play through it cause we are mighty Iowa. Might as well play the movie hoosiers & eat popcorn instead, least they won a championship.
I replayed in slow motion the Gonzaga game where a big was in the lane for minimum of 5 seconds, maybe 6 and no call. He kind of faked getting out by moving to the edge with one foot in and one out several times, never totally left. So I suppose the ref would have a hard time watching other stuff and looking at this closely. Oh well....
They should hire some of the high school refs I've seen do our games in the past. I swear if you catch a pass and step and then even begin to move your plant foot (not pick it up), you get called for traveling.
That kind of eye sight (and foresight) is what the college game sorely needs......................................................................
That kind of eye sight (and foresight) is what the college game sorely needs......................................................................
The hop step to start a move to the basket is really the only one that drives me up a wall, mainly because it happens 50 times per game, is never called and is easy to spot. The one where the ball handler splits his feet with a hop instead of stepping forward? That one.
My biggest complaint is the player control non-calls. The hand checks, the offensive push offs, the charge/block, the using one's body to move an offensive player out of the lane or moving a defensive player back into the lane. Clean that crap up and I couldn't care less if a guy travels or palms the ball every time they dribble. An offensive player that has established a path to the basket getting moved off of that path is being fouled. Call it. There are times it looks like a LB making a play on a RB and riding him to the sideline. Open up the driving lanes so we can get a better product. No one who actually enjoys basketball wants to watch 32 seconds of passing around the perimeter followed by a marginally open 3 pointer every trip.
/end of rant
The only complaints regarding traveling in college basketball should be about all of the times traveling is called when a player actually keeps his pivot foot or doesn't otherwise travel. Happens in nearly every game. College refs can be fooled so easily and they are always ready to blow that whistle when they are.
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I believe that the three-second call, and to a somewhat lesser extent the travel call, are used by officials to make up for a call they realize they missed on the other end. That is especially true of the three-second rule, which can be called about as frequently as holding can be called in football.Originally posted by jo2knight:
I'd probably take that 1 step further. Woodbury was called for a 3 sec in the lane violation against Davidson, but against Gonzaga, their bigs were allowed to setup campfires, have marshmellows & smores while in the lane. It doesn't matter tho, we are supposed to play through it cause we are mighty Iowa. Might as well play the movie hoosiers & eat popcorn instead, least they won a championship.
My pet peeve is calling a foul when a guy flops after shooting a three-pointer. Usually there's no contact, and almost always the contact occurs well after the ball leaves the shooter's hand. That shouldn't be a shooting foul.
The NBA travel rule, as stated in Chapter 7, Subsection A., Paragraph 1c: "A player with the ball may take up to 7 (seven) steps without dribbling as long as he is going to the basket."
Actually, one of the biggest traveling violations (or Should Be violations) in college or the NBA is the cupping and carrying of the ball when changing direction, where the hand goes way below the equator of the ball. MG is about as adept at it as anyone; but when they hardly ever call it, might as well keep doing it.
"I see you goin' down the street in your big Cadillac,
You got girls in the front and got girls in the back...
and way in the back you got money in a sack,
both hands on the wheel and your shoulders right back,
a ribba dibba dibba dibba dib doah"
(who?)
Actually, one of the biggest traveling violations (or Should Be violations) in college or the NBA is the cupping and carrying of the ball when changing direction, where the hand goes way below the equator of the ball. MG is about as adept at it as anyone; but when they hardly ever call it, might as well keep doing it.
"I see you goin' down the street in your big Cadillac,
You got girls in the front and got girls in the back...
and way in the back you got money in a sack,
both hands on the wheel and your shoulders right back,
a ribba dibba dibba dibba dib doah"
(who?)
Can you imagine how good some of the 'classic' point guards would have been had they played with today's 'rules'? How many times a game do you see the ball literally stop in mid-air thanks to the cup/carry? It would be nice to see this enforced at least a little bit.
Traveling is ridiculous down in the post, seldom called. Guys shuffling their feet all the time. Xavier's center last night traveled about 10 times, never called.
Coached for years and what I've taught, been taught for years is: Ex: right handed layup. left right left (3 steps) if you go left right left and don't shoot, it is a travel. The Euro step is just a wide stepping version of this.
The one that bothers me is where the player drives the lane, hops (left foot then right foot) hops again (to same right foot) then hops back to the left foot. 4 steps. there is no way around it. I don't know how to post video/gif otherwise i would post one.
The one that bothers me is where the player drives the lane, hops (left foot then right foot) hops again (to same right foot) then hops back to the left foot. 4 steps. there is no way around it. I don't know how to post video/gif otherwise i would post one.
Carbello did the same playing us in the Big T.🤮 Except he had no one in front of him.😂
The NBA has a different rule than college. College has no "gather" step, the NBA does.
this is not a travel. In the NBA and FIBA you get what is known as (by rule)a zero step
The lack of traveling is annoying because it cheapens the guys who can make great moves with only two steps.
I remember when Manu Ginobli brought the euro step in the nba and it was cool to watch because he did it without traveling.
Now everyone takes the big exaggerated steps but most of the time they have to use 3 steps because they lack the coordination to have their dribble and steps in sync.
It cheapens the game.
I remember when Manu Ginobli brought the euro step in the nba and it was cool to watch because he did it without traveling.
Now everyone takes the big exaggerated steps but most of the time they have to use 3 steps because they lack the coordination to have their dribble and steps in sync.
It cheapens the game.
That's exactly a foul - the entire shooting motion is eligible to be a foul until they're back on the ground.
Why don't they have a referee who's camped at each basket. So they don't have to run up and down the court. And they can watch specifically for the kind of stuff that goes under goes on underneath the basket
Ayo was trapped in the corner on an in-bounds play. I believe he got a TO. On the replay, you could see his feet sliding around. Should have been a travel, but after all, it was hard to see and it was Ayo.
I think what’s worse is the new “step back.” Not a new move in concept, but you used to have to do it without traveling and had to pick up your dribble as you stepped back all in one motion.
Harden has made it a legal basketball move to stop dribbling and come to a stop in front of the 3 point line with both feet on the ground, then quickly jump backwards to get space, land, then pull up for a shot. I’ve seen it a few times in our games this year too and can’t figure out why it isn’t called for traveling.
I saw a guy in one of the conference tournament games do this on an inbounds. I can’t remember what teams (watched way too much bball) and he kept taking steps up the sideline trying to inbound at the end of a game (not the baseline) in front of the ref and it wasn’t called. It didn’t end up mattering as I think the inbounds pass was deflected anyway, but it was bizarre.
NBA rules are good. Should just adopt those.
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I don't think we want travelling to be called more closely. Just my opinion, but it seems like Luka has gotten away with it quite a few times.
Harden may have perfected it, maybe not but the NBA rules for years has allowed for a "zero" step as the dribble ends(in essence you can lift your pivot foot and put it back down unlike below). In NFHS and NCAA you must exercise a backwards jump stop, in other words off of 1(pivot foot) to a simultaneous land which is literally and physically impossible(think of a forward jump stop, off of 1 and land on 2). The only "legal" way that you can end the dribble and attempt a stepback is "in the air" as you jump, otherwise lifting of the pivot foot(with pivot foot still in contact) and putting it back down is a travel. 99 our 100 step backs attempted in both HS and at the collegiate level are travels. Most of the time they are caught...sometimes they're not
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