I don't know. Why does Obama ask for George Clooney's advice on anything? Or Al Sharpton?
Ditka calls Obama ‘the worst president we’ve ever had’
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I don't know. Why does Obama ask for George Clooney's advice on anything? Or Al Sharpton?
Huh?
Russia annexing Ukraine is better in your opinion?
Iraq was subdued when Bush left office. The rise of ISIS is all on your boy Obama.
Neither of those impact me at all. And neither would impact you at all had Gore been sworn in in 2000 as the American people wanted.
Umm, no.
Bush invaded Iraq and completely destabilized that country and created the conditions by which ISIS thrived. Your "freedom" to Iraq war was a disaster.
Its just ego stroking, arguing with Trad makes me feel smart.Don't try to convince Trad with facts!
ISIS didn't thrive until Obama refused to do anything about the power vacuum in Syria. Remember the red line? That's when ISIS knew they could do whatever the hell they wanted. If Obama wasn't going to do anything about a horrible dictator, they knew he wouldn't do anything about a horrible terrorist group trying to overthrow said horrible dictator.
ISIS is Obama's creation.
Again, totally false.
Let's go back to 2003. Saddam Hussein was in power. Your boy Bush toppled him and Iraq turned into chaos. We wasted a trillion dollars and thousands of lives.
Bush created a vacuum because of his ignorance of Iraq and the region. ISIS filled it.
And what did Obama get out of that red line deal? Thats right, he trolled Russia into putting boots on the ground. Check and Mate. Total Yoda move.
There was no power vacuum in Iraq when Bush left office. Iraq was stable. That's why Obama was so confident in pulling out. Remember?????
The Iraqi government asked us to leave. We could not stay in Iraq forever; no matter what you Neo-Cons think.
That destroys your argument. So now it was stable when we left meaning leaving didn't create the power vacuum. You just lost all your ground.
In what possible way is it a positive for Russia to be in Syria? That was yet another blunder. Putin saw that Obama wasn't going to do anything, so now he's involved, too! Obama is an ineffective toolbag on the world stage.
Conquered?????
I thought we went there to bring freedom and Democracy?
That was what you used to argue. Now you change your tune.
In what possible world is it bad when two enemies fight each other while we eat popcorn? Thats a huge win. You're not being very strategic in your thinking which is probably why you like Bush.
We're not eating popcorn. We have assets over there. Real Americans who could get killed in an instant if "communications" break down between us and Putin's forces.
We should bring them home too. Placating your kind is Obama's main weakness.
Oh, and you know what? Still better than we were 8 years ago.
I'm not going to war over it. I'm just rolling out the fact that Gore won the popular vote.
LOL, Obama has been a total dick towards the opposition for eight years. He's not placating anybody.
You see, after he was inaugurated, the CIA gave him a briefing that scared the poop out of him. All the "hope and change" crap immediately went out the window, and Obama tried to find way to stay involved in the middle east without looking like Bush Version 3.0.
Well, he failed.
Yes, that was my point, Gore won the approval of the American people. We agree.
You're right, he failed to screw up as bad as a Bush 3.0. That's why we are better off today.
Oh, and being a dick isn't a mark against him. I wish Obama had gone scorched earth and gotten everything he wanted instead of pussyfooting around with your team of treacherous vipers. But that's not what he did which I agree is another fault.
We will see. At this point in Bush's last year, the financial crisis hadn't yet happened. If the "100% guaranteed recession" hits this summer, all bets are off.
Nearly everyone thought invading Iraq was a good idea when we started it. A congressional resolution backing that up passed easily.
Somehow only W. gets blamed for it.
Invading Iraq wasn't a good idea, it was a terrible idea. I remember because I actually opposed it before we started (after we started I didn't believe in pulling troops out because of the chaos that would cause) But lets not forget how many people where behind this invasion at first.
Somehow only W. gets blamed for it.
Invading Iraq wasn't a good idea, it was a terrible idea. I remember because I actually opposed it before we started (after we started I didn't believe in pulling troops out because of the chaos that would cause) But lets not forget how many people where behind this invasion at first.
I would have maybe allowed Dick Cheney, but Bush wasn't far behind him with the lies. Ari Fleisher had some doozys too which is pretty much just an extension of Bush.
Pretty much everyone bought into the WMD thing. And don't tell me it's because the Dems trusted Bush too much to fact check him.
Did he or did he not say that? That's why he gets a majority of the blame. Rather you agree with that opinion or not doesn't matter. I was just answering your question.
I just watched a 30 for 30 on the '85 Bears and no one said that at all. But I'm a fan of the 13 time World Champion Green Bay Packers who crush the Bears year in and year out.
