Do HILLARY supporters actually believe her nonsense?

[YellowSnow51]

Best exchange so far...

Sanders: I want to take the banks and break them up. Then, want to take all of the CEOs of the banks and have them executed in front of their families. I want those broken up banks lit on fire and all executives given poison while standing in the fire. Then, I want the ashes of those banks fed to maneating sharks in the Indian Ocean, never to be seen again.

HILLARY: While I don't want the banks broken up, per se, I think my plan is a little harder on the banks than Bernie's.

Sanders: Then I want to go down to Wall Street and pull all of the brokers out of the buildings and pour kerosene all over them and cover them with sugar and invite billions of fireants to eat them before setting them ablaze.

Hillary: I worked in New York. I went to Wall Street and told them to cut it out.

BTW, that really was what HILLARY said exactly. I may have embellished Sanders a bit...but not much.

 

[moral_victory]

 

[Herkmeister]

She is so sad!!

 

[like-woahh]

She's freaking terrible, a complete liar when she talks about closing the gap and all this nonsense while she accepts millions of dollars of campaign funding from the people she is supposedly decrying. If that isn't hypocrisy than I really don't know what is.

Her voting record just speaks volumes about her. Speaks out of both sides of her mouth, like I said earlier. I watched the debate and said yeah, she sounds good but her voting record just goes along the pandering route. It simply changes on what is popular at the time. She's a marketing campaign, no more and no less.

She got removed from her job as Secretary of State, how in the hell can she do her job as President of the United States if she couldn't even hold that position that was appointed to her by her own party.

The fact that her and Donald Trump are leading the polls right now is an indictment on the American people. Two absolute buffoons leading the race for one of the most important positions on The Planet, wow.... just wow.

 

[IMCC965]

Best exchange so far...

Sanders: I want to take the banks and break them up. Then, want to take all of the CEOs of the banks and have them executed in front of their families. I want those broken up banks lit on fire and all executives given poison while standing in the fire. Then, I want the ashes of those banks fed to maneating sharks in the Indian Ocean, never to be seen again.

HILLARY: While I don't want the banks broken up, per se, I think my plan is a little harder on the banks than Bernie's.

Sanders: Then I want to go down to Wall Street and pull all of the brokers out of the buildings and pour kerosene all over them and cover them with sugar and invite billions of fireants to eat them before setting them ablaze.

Hillary: I worked in New York. I went to Wall Street and told them to cut it out.

BTW, that really was what HILLARY said exactly. I may have embellished Sanders a bit...but not much.

Where is the laughing emoticon when you need it?

It was pathetic.

 

[Pepperman]

The fact that her and Donald Trump are leading the polls right now is an indictment on the American people. Two absolute buffoons leading the race for one of the most important positions on The Planet, wow.... just wow.

In real MONEY markets, the two favorites for their respective nominations are BUSH and CLINTON.

Rubio is second for the Republicans, and I think Biden and Sanders are basically a dead heat for second for the Democrats.

Real money markets are always better than the polls. Oh, and by the way, Clinton is the odds on favorite to be our next POTUS as of now.

 

[IMCC965]

In real MONEY markets, the two favorites for their respective nominations are BUSH and CLINTON.

Rubio is second for the Republicans, and I think Biden and Sanders are basically a dead heat for second for the Democrats.

Real money markets are always better than the polls. Oh, and by the way, Clinton is the odds on favorite to be our next POTUS as of now.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/10/13/fox-news-poll-biden-more-electable-clinton


In hypothetical 2016 matchups with top-tier Republicans, Clinton trails all the Republicans tested. She trails Ben Carson by 11 points and Donald Trump by 5 points. Jeb Bush has a 4-point edge over Clinton, while Carly Fiorina is up by 3 points.

Vice President Joe Biden trails Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination, yet he looks more electable than the former secretary of state against top Republicans.

As Democrats prepare for their first debate Tuesday evening, the latest Fox News national poll finds little movement in the primary. Clinton remains the front-runner among Democratic primary voters (45 percent), with Bernie Sanders (25 percent) and Biden (19 percent) behind her by about 20 percentage points. That's almost identical to where things stood three weeks ago.

Lincoln Chafee, Larry Lessig, Martin O'Malley, and Jim Webb each receive 1 percent or less.

 

[Pepperman]

History shows us something to be a fact:

Money markets are more accurate that polls.

 

[TexMichFan]

Best exchange so far...

Sanders: I want to take the banks and break them up. Then, want to take all of the CEOs of the banks and have them executed in front of their families. I want those broken up banks lit on fire and all executives given poison while standing in the fire. Then, I want the ashes of those banks fed to maneating sharks in the Indian Ocean, never to be seen again.

HILLARY: While I don't want the banks broken up, per se, I think my plan is a little harder on the banks than Bernie's.

Sanders: Then I want to go down to Wall Street and pull all of the brokers out of the buildings and pour kerosene all over them and cover them with sugar and invite billions of fireants to eat them before setting them ablaze.

Hillary: I worked in New York. I went to Wall Street and told them to cut it out.

BTW, that really was what HILLARY said exactly. I may have embellished Sanders a bit...but not much.

I don't think most of them do they just don't like the Republicans more.

 

[jscott78]

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/10/13/fox-news-poll-biden-more-electable-clinton


In hypothetical 2016 matchups with top-tier Republicans, Clinton trails all the Republicans tested. She trails Ben Carson by 11 points and Donald Trump by 5 points. Jeb Bush has a 4-point edge over Clinton, while Carly Fiorina is up by 3 points.

Vice President Joe Biden trails Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination, yet he looks more electable than the former secretary of state against top Republicans.

As Democrats prepare for their first debate Tuesday evening, the latest Fox News national poll finds little movement in the primary. Clinton remains the front-runner among Democratic primary voters (45 percent), with Bernie Sanders (25 percent) and Biden (19 percent) behind her by about 20 percentage points. That's almost identical to where things stood three weeks ago.

Lincoln Chafee, Larry Lessig, Martin O'Malley, and Jim Webb each receive 1 percent or less.

Fixed news poll? My god, they are utter crap.

 

[Vroom_C14]

She's freaking terrible, a complete liar when she talks about closing the gap and all this nonsense while she accepts millions of dollars of campaign funding from the people she is supposedly decrying. If that isn't hypocrisy than I really don't know what is.

Her voting record just speaks volumes about her. Speaks out of both sides of her mouth, like I said earlier. I watched the debate and said yeah, she sounds good but her voting record just goes along the pandering route. It simply changes on what is popular at the time. She's a marketing campaign, no more and no less.

She got removed from her job as Secretary of State, how in the hell can she do her job as President of the United States if she couldn't even hold that position that was appointed to her by her own party.

The fact that her and Donald Trump are leading the polls right now is an indictment on the American people. Two absolute buffoons leading the race for one of the most important positions on The Planet, wow.... just wow.

Funny how the Left complain that the UofI president doesn't bring details, well neither does their mother "Hillary":

While Clinton agrees the national minimum wage should be higher than it is now, she hasn't said to what specific level she thinks it should be raised.

Too add to the above - everyone was screaming for the min wage to be hiked to 15.00 (even the liberal JC board) well, careful what you ask for:

If the minimum wage is too high, businesses might not make money by hiring additional workers. Since there's no law requiring businesses to hire anyone, those firms wouldn't bring on new personnel, or they'd lay some of their employees off. Low-wage workers would find it more difficult to get a job, One leading minimum-wage researcher and a former economic adviser to President Obama recently warned that raising the national minimum to $15 an hour could be "counterproductive." A $15 hourly minimum could set back the very people it is supposed to help.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

Hillary is a lying, scheming, sociopathic bitch without any substance. She should be running for the republican nomination. She fit's in pretty well there.

 

[Vroom_C14]

Hillary is a lying, scheming, sociopathic bitch without any substance. She should be running for the republican nomination. She fit's in pretty well there.

Hillary and Trump should be on the same ticket - Satanic. The others aren't close.

 

[txhawk I]

Funny how the Left complain that the UofI president doesn't bring details, well neither does their mother "Hillary":

While Clinton agrees the national minimum wage should be higher than it is now, she hasn't said to what specific level she thinks it should be raised.

Too add to the above - everyone was screaming for the min wage to be hiked to 15.00 (even the liberal JC board) well, careful what you ask for:

If the minimum wage is too high, businesses might not make money by hiring additional workers. Since there's no law requiring businesses to hire anyone, those firms wouldn't bring on new personnel, or they'd lay some of their employees off. Low-wage workers would find it more difficult to get a job, One leading minimum-wage researcher and a former economic adviser to President Obama recently warned that raising the national minimum to $15 an hour could be "counterproductive." A $15 hourly minimum could set back the very people it is supposed to help.

Also, people who make 15.00 an hour are less likely to qualify for federal benefits. This is what is happening in Seattle and the dumbass workers are pissed.

Here's a clue people, these jobs are supposed to be a stepping stone to a better job. You have no one to blame but yourself for such lofty goals.

 

[IMCC965]

Hillary is a lying, scheming, sociopathic bitch without any substance. She should be running for the republican nomination. She fit's in pretty well there.

But the fact is she's running as a Democrat and has a league of loyal followers. Just can't accept the facts that that's how Democrats think?

She's the perfect Democrat.

 

[Vroom_C14]

And they say the Right lies and is misleading:

Reality check: Did Hillary Clinton not have a position on Keystone?

Clinton said she never had a position on the controversial Keystone XL Pipeline before she said last month that she would oppose it.

"I never took a position on Keystone until I took a position on Keystone," she said.

But as a member of the Obama administration, the then-secretary of state indicated she was likely to support it -- though she never said so explicitly.

Clinton defends paid leave, Planned Parenthood 00:39
"We haven't finish all of the analysis," Clinton told the Commonwealth Club in October 2010. "So as I say, we've not yet signed off on it. But we are inclined to do so and we are for several reasons."

Over the next five years, Clinton would repeatedly decline to say what her opinion was while the Obama administration studied the project. Last month she finally said, "I oppose it."

VERDICT: True, but misleading

The bolded part is a true blue Clinton line - similar to what the word "is" is...

 

[ottumwan in tx]

it is apparent after last nite the dems need to team up hill as prez and sanders as vp, just like in 2008 when all votes for McCain were actually for palin.

 

[Vroom_C14]

Reality check: Hillary Clinton on the Trans-Pacific Partnership

Clinton said, "I did say when I was secretary of state three years ago that I hoped it would be the gold standard. It was just finally negotiated last week and in looking at it, it did not meet my standards."

Negotiations on the TPP trade agreement began while Clinton was secretary of state, but the significant details were worked out after she left that office.

In fact, Clinton did not say she "hoped" the TPP would be the gold standard, at the time she said the deal set the gold standard.

"This TPP sets the gold standard in trade agreements to open free, transparent, fair trade, the kind of environment that has the rule of law and a level playing field," Clinton said at an event in Australia in 2012. "And when negotiated, this agreement will cover 40 percent of the world's total trade and build in strong protections for workers and the environment."

Nearly three years have passed, and Clinton has been out of office for most of that time as talks have proceeded on the important details of the deal. As such, it is reasonable for Clinton to claim that the deal has changed since she supported it and was involved in its negotiation.

However, in some ways, the deal has strengthened over the years in areas that Clinton has cited as key concerns.

Clinton now says the deal doesn't do enough to address currency manipulation. But the deal didn't include clear language on that topic in 2013 either, when critics in Congress were calling for it to be added.

She also says she is concerned about the benefits the deal gives to pharmaceutical companies -- which are strengthened under TPP, but less than they would have been under the deal in its 2013 state.

VERDICT: Clinton's claim she said she "hoped" TPP would be the gold standard is false. She said it was the gold standard and fully supported the negotiations. Her broader point about the deal changing since she left office is True, but Misleading. The deal has changed in the past three years, but in some instances those changes have improved the very deficiencies she cites.

 

[SIXERS24]

Hillary is going to get killed in the real debates last night was a joke. Joe Biden would take her apart so will the Republican Nominee.

 

[Vroom_C14]

So far, any "true's" are "misleading" nice job Hill!

Reality check: Hillary Clinton said, "We have to look at the fact that we lose 90 people a day from gun violence. This has gone on too long and it's time the entire country stood up against the NRA."

According to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there were 33,636 people killed by firearms in 2013, the last full year for which data is available. That averages to about 92 people a day. However, the number includes suicides, unintentional deaths, and incidents with undetermined intent as well as violence-related firearm deaths (homicide and legal intervention). In 2013, 11,675 people were killed in violence-related deaths by homicide or legal intervention, which equates to almost 32 deaths a day. The CDC reports 505 unintentional deaths by firearms in 2013, or just more than one death per day. They also report 281 deaths where the intent was undetermined in 2013.

Ninety-two people did die each day in 2013 from a firearm injury. However, the number of people killed from violence-related homicides and legal interventions in 2013 was much lower -- about 32 deaths a day.

VERDICT: True, but Misleading

 

[ottumwan in tx]

I'd like to see her stand up against nugent and the nra. that would be fun.

 

[hexumhawk]

I thought we had the worst, but SHE is the worst.

 

[fredjr82]

Nice to see the "She's going to jail!!! The FBI is now involved!!!" narrative finally gone. Took you guys long enough.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

But the fact is she's running as a Democrat and has a league of loyal followers. Just can't accept the facts that that's how Democrats think?

She's the perfect Democrat.

No she fits right in with everyone running on the republican side. Everything coming out of their mouths should be coming out their ass.

 

[IMCC965]

No she fits right in with everyone running on the republican side. Everything coming out of their mouths should be coming out their ass.

Then why is she a Democrat and why did the audience hysterically support her?

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

Then why is she a Democrat and why did the audience hysterically support her?

I have no idea why anyone in their right mind would support her. But then again it seems like their are a lot more crazies out there than there used to be.

 

[Hawkeyemc]

And they say the Right lies and is misleading:

Reality check: Did Hillary Clinton not have a position on Keystone?

Clinton said she never had a position on the controversial Keystone XL Pipeline before she said last month that she would oppose it.

"I never took a position on Keystone until I took a position on Keystone," she said.

But as a member of the Obama administration, the then-secretary of state indicated she was likely to support it -- though she never said so explicitly.

Clinton defends paid leave, Planned Parenthood 00:39
"We haven't finish all of the analysis," Clinton told the Commonwealth Club in October 2010. "So as I say, we've not yet signed off on it. But we are inclined to do so and we are for several reasons."

Over the next five years, Clinton would repeatedly decline to say what her opinion was while the Obama administration studied the project. Last month she finally said, "I oppose it."

VERDICT: True, but misleading

The bolded part is a true blue Clinton line - similar to what the word "is" is...

Everything thing she does is in response to polling numbers. It's just crazy.

 

[Vroom_C14]

Also, people who make 15.00 an hour are less likely to qualify for federal benefits. This is what is happening in Seattle and the dumbass workers are pissed.

Here's a clue people, these jobs are supposed to be a stepping stone to a better job. You have no one to blame but yourself for such lofty goals.

In addtion...

Walmart had been under increased pressure to pay employees more. It finally agreed to do so for more than 600,000 workers earlier this year.

Several cities and states have forced the issue by raising local minimum wages.

So higher labor costs are suddenly a major pressure point for Walmart as well as companies likeTarget (TGT)and McDonald's (MCD).

But one union that has been critical of Walmart said the company is using the wage hikes as an excuse for its poor performance.

"Walmart should be ashamed for trying to blame its failures on the so-called wage increases. The truth is that hard-working Walmart employees all across the country began seeing their hours cut soon after the new wages were announced," said Jess Levin, a spokesperson for the United Food & Commercial Workers International Union

I believe some of us on here said this would happen... viola

 

[jscott78]

I thought we had the worst, but SHE is the worst.

No offense, but this is what you testy white boys say every time you lose the general.

 

[cigaretteman]

I thought we had the worst, but SHE is the worst.

Well, both of those statement pretty clearly demonstrate you have very, very poor judgement, bordering on delusion.

 

[strummingram]

She revels in her corruption and her followers applaud her for it.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

Yes they do, but keep in mind that certain idiots like Huey, Ciggy, Jscott, Menace, etc. are the ones that do. These are literally the most ignorant, uneducated, unsuccessful, and weakest members on the board.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

Well, both of those statement pretty clearly demonstrate you have very, very poor judgement, bordering on delusion.

If you're too stupid to realize that she is every bit as pro-war as the Bush Administration was/is, then you're the dumbest person on the board and it's not even close. She's voted and supported EVERY single war since being around the office.

 

[hexumhawk]

The fact that people are actually still willing to defend her is just laughable at this point. You must be either blind, dumb, or some combination of the two.

 

[wyohawk]

I'm a proud Berner, but it will be humorous to see all the outrage as Hillary gradually progresses her way to the White House.

 

[thewop]

I don't think most of them do they just don't like the Republicans more.

Yes, this is my take as well. It also feeds my theory that there are very few actual swing votes to be had by either party. Most people are going to choose based on party and nothing will change their mind.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

The fact that people are actually still willing to defend her is just laughable at this point. You must be either blind, dumb, or some combination of the two.

No ##$, even if I was a Liberal, I'd have to stay away from that woman. She's the epitome of what the Liberals say they hate so much. Watch this video, and how badly she gets owned by CNN.

 

[aflachawk]

Hillary will be the last center left candidates they nominate for a long time. Both bases are moving to the edges but the movement of the Dem base to the left is much more pronounced than the cons to the right. There are still plenty of Republican moderates but in the Dem party they are almost extinct. The debaters positions and the applause they got proved that.

 

[pablow]

I love it when she rails against the rich. She has no shame.

 

[ft254]

Best exchange so far...

Sanders: I want to take the banks and break them up. Then, want to take all of the CEOs of the banks and have them executed in front of their families. I want those broken up banks lit on fire and all executives given poison while standing in the fire. Then, I want the ashes of those banks fed to maneating sharks in the Indian Ocean, never to be seen again.

HILLARY: While I don't want the banks broken up, per se, I think my plan is a little harder on the banks than Bernie's.

Sanders: Then I want to go down to Wall Street and pull all of the brokers out of the buildings and pour kerosene all over them and cover them with sugar and invite billions of fireants to eat them before setting them ablaze.

Hillary: I worked in New York. I went to Wall Street and told them to cut it out.

BTW, that really was what HILLARY said exactly. I may have embellished Sanders a bit...but not much.

It's going to be interesting when Hillary faces off against whichever numbnut the Rs select, and debate issues are raised that don't involve building fences, or brain tissue, or a county clerk in Kentucky, etc.. The thing is, the Rs think they can play the economy card. Their problem is the deeper they dig, the more obvious their responsibility for the collapse will become aired again. Jeb would be dead meat by virtue of his connection to the Bush family. Rubio is a pedestrian. Carson is Black, and that will never fly in today's R party. Trump is well, Trump. Enough said. Fluckaby is a clown that has only hung on with his religious zealot wierdo base. What's her name has come and gone, her credibility shot with her brain tissue video. Cruz is a viper, and that works for awhile, but at some point you have to turn off the acid faucet and actually converse. It's not in his nature and he never will be able to appear to have stature.