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This is what happens when you promote based on DEI rather than intelligence and ability.

Why? Because he's black or because he made a miscalculation? Let me ask you this, have you ever placed a cheeseburger in the bag when the person ordered a chicken sandwich? We all know the answer, so the question is why? Were you not properly trained? Is it because you're a white nationalist? Is it because you're a MAGA? or did you simply make a mistake?
You'll defend this lunacy until the end of civilization, won't you?
 
You'll defend this lunacy until the end of civilization, won't you?
Depends. I've yet to see a single person post:

1. A "woke" policy (that contributed to any failures in response to the fires)
2. Diverted funds to anything DEI related (outside the .00014% of the budget for a Trans Cafe')

I've been asking for it for over a week so we could discuss it.

On the flip side, I've been able to track down verifiable evidence that:

1. Since the current governor has taken office there has been a substantial increase to the firefighting budget sans last year (iirc 44% budgetary increase overall).
2. The LAPD received a 7% budget increase, possibly at the expense of the LAFD who received a 2% decrease.
--Note: You "guess" this could be in an effort to combat illegal immigration which is a cause we both support.
3. A single empty reservoir that was emptied for scheduled maintenance during a period believed the most optimal.

None of the above has anything to do with DEI initiatives or "woke" policies. If you can provide these documents, I'll be happy to discuss them. Remember, my stance is not that woke policies or DEI initiatives weren't a contributing factor, it's that I've not seen any evidence of them, so I can't confirm or deny them. Again, I've been asking for them for well over a week now.
 
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Depends. I've yet to see a single person post:

1. A "woke" policy (that contributed to any failures in response to the fires)
2. Diverted funds to anything DEI related (outside the .00014% of the budget for a Trans Cafe')

I've been asking for it for over a week so we could discuss it.

On the flip side, I've been able to track down verifiable evidence that:

1. Since the current governor has taken office there has been a substantial increase to the firefighting budget sans last year (iirc 44% budgetary increase overall).
2. The LAPD received a 7% budget increase, possibly at the expense of the LAFD who received a 2% decrease.
--Note: You "guess" this could be in an effort to combat illegal immigration which is a cause we both support.
3. A single empty reservoir that was emptied for scheduled maintenance during a period believed the most optimal.

None of the above has anything to do with DEI initiatives or "woke" policies. If you can provide these documents, I'll be happy to discuss them. Remember, my stance is not that woke policies or DEI initiatives weren't a contributing factor, it's that I've not seen any evidence of them, so I can't confirm or deny them. Again, I've been asking for them for well over a week now.
Busy bee! You must be on the road in a hotel working again? 🤡 🤣
 
Tell me your education in fire scene management and fire incident command. Let me hear your qualifications to judge their actions. Do you suppose the fact that the area was filled with winding narrow streets made a difference? That the fire was spreading faster than the trucks could travel? That they were afraid the trucks and crews would get trapped behind the fire line?

The people leading that department are very qualified in what they do. They have cumulative centuries of fire experience in general and fire command in that area. It’s entirely possible that some decisions were made that didn’t turn out to be the correct decisions. That doesn’t mean the decisions were unreasonable or even incorrect.

You judge because they are in an area run by democrats. You think they must be a DEI hire and are therefore unqualified. You think you can score political points. You have no agenda other than a political agenda.

You’re the worst kind of poster on this board and more broadly the worst part of American politics. Party and agenda above all else no matter what. Go team. 👏 👏👏👏👏
Fields made terrible decisions and people died because of it, similar to Bidens retreat from Afghanistan and people died because of it.

Reality vs any agenda.
 
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Why? Because he's black or because he made a miscalculation? Let me ask you this, have you ever placed a cheeseburger in the bag when the person ordered a chicken sandwich? We all know the answer, so the question is why? Were you not properly trained? Is it because you're a white nationalist? Is it because you're a MAGA? or did you simply make a mistake?
Somewhere in your word salad response I detect you admitted Fields made mistakes.
 
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But what's the message? There hasn't been a single, rational proposal for discussing the tragedy that is the LA fires. It's 100% gaslighting and regurgitation of far right sound bites.

The far-right posters on this board seem to have already cemented their narrative, reinforced by an authoritarian-leaning Trump and a biased media that plays out 24/7 (see clip below). They scour the internet with deliberate intent, cherry-picking information to support their preconceived notions.

I made an effort to engage rationally: "Okay, I see your claim. Let’s take the time to verify or debunk it. [I read through the budget.] Well, I didn’t find anything to support your assertion. What evidence have you found?"

The response? Predictable: "Blah blah, DEI this, DEI that," followed by endless deflection.


You're a liar! I include this in my post, they are facts undisputed facts, yet you won't recognize or admit a blunder was made:

LAFD bosses sent just 5 fire engines to Palisades Fire — while holding back 1,000 firefighters and 35 trucks in critical first hours.

Los Angeles fire bosses deployed a just fraction of its firefighters and trucks to the deadly Palisades Fire until it was already out of control — sending just five the 40 available fire engines and holding back 1,000 firefighters, according to a damning new report.
 
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You're a liar! I include this in my post, they are facts undisputed facts, yet you won't recognize or admit a blunder was made:

LAFD bosses sent just 5 fire engines to Palisades Fire — while holding back 1,000 firefighters and 35 trucks in critical first hours.

Los Angeles fire bosses deployed a just fraction of its firefighters and trucks to the deadly Palisades Fire until it was already out of control — sending just five the 40 available fire engines and holding back 1,000 firefighters, according to a damning new report.
This is an example of cherry picking information without all the facts. Already been discussed you just refuse to engage
 
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You're a liar! I include this in my post, they are facts undisputed facts, yet you won't recognize or admit a blunder was made:

LAFD bosses sent just 5 fire engines to Palisades Fire — while holding back 1,000 firefighters and 35 trucks in critical first hours.

Los Angeles fire bosses deployed a just fraction of its firefighters and trucks to the deadly Palisades Fire until it was already out of control — sending just five the 40 available fire engines and holding back 1,000 firefighters, according to a damning new report.
Could you please highlight the portions of your post that discuss DEI initiatives or woke policies that led to these blunders?
 
You should consider ****ing her for about 2% of the time you spend here wiping your ass! That would save on vibrator batteries immensely!!
What kind of "asshole" sits on HROT chirping from his phone while at a medical appointment with his wife? Must be another Packer fan he man........
Let me guess, the gerbil got stuck in him and your waiting for them to get it out?
This is why no one takes you dicksicles seriously on this site. You bring absolutely NOTHING to this forum.
 
Your constant name calling has reached an all time high. Name calling over substance is your game plan.
JFC, the GD irony in everything you post is off the fvcking charts. I'M AN ASSHOLE and really don't give a shit what your dumbass thinks. This is just entertainment for me. However, there are several posters on here who have made numerous attempts to have a reasonable discussion with you idiots--God only knows why--and you refuse to be civil and refuse to bring any critical thinking to the discussion.

Gordon Ramsey Idiot GIF
 
Your constant name calling has reached an all time high. Name calling over substance is your game plan.
It's the way you argue.

You make a strong statement: DEI CAUSED THIS. And when asked why you won't explain how. You won't offer evidence. You won't engage in debate; won't respond to information that seems to counter your position.
 
It's the way you argue.

You make a strong statement: DEI CAUSED THIS. And when asked why you won't explain how. You won't offer evidence. You won't engage in debate; won't respond to information that seems to counter your position.
Which on a discussion board -- you know, where we discuss things -- is kind of annoying.

After a while, since you won't play the game of "discussion" the way everybody else does, people start ignoring you.

Which is what I'm going to do.
 
It's the way you argue.

You make a strong statement: DEI CAUSED THIS. And when asked why you won't explain how. You won't offer evidence. You won't engage in debate; won't respond to information that seems to counter your position.
Huge mistakes were made by those in charge which increased the carnage, I believe DEI played a huge part in the selection of those leaders in charge.

Not really that hard to figure out is it?
 
It's the way you argue.

You make a strong statement: DEI CAUSED THIS. And when asked why you won't explain how. You won't offer evidence. You won't engage in debate; won't respond to information that seems to counter your position.
Here's just one clue, dummy! Watch the video and tell us what the DEI hire with no utility experience--the ****ing coast guard?--is excited about? Hitting the ground running and learning the job? Supporting the mission of LAFD by doing her ****ing job and making sure they had access to water to fight fires? Something else....what was she "most excited about?" >

 
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