Do you prefer fluoride in your water?

[MichaelKeller99]

More information for the science deniers of HBOT.

6) Fluoride is not an essential nutrient. No disease, not even tooth decay, is caused by a “fluoride deficiency.”(NRC 1993; Institute of Medicine 1997, NRC 2006). Not a single biological process has been shown to require fluoride. On the contrary there is extensive evidence that fluoride can interfere with many important biological processes. Fluoride interferes with numerous enzymes (Waldbott 1978). In combination with aluminum, fluoride interferes with G-proteins (Bigay 1985, 1987). Such interactions give aluminum-fluoride complexes the potential to interfere with signals from growth factors, hormones and neurotransmitters (Strunecka & Patocka 1999; Li 2003). More and more studies indicate that fluoride can interfere with biochemistry in fundamental ways (Barbier 2010).

50 Reasons to Oppose Fluoridation

Introduction In Europe, only Ireland (73%), Poland (1%), Serbia (3%), Spain (11%), and the U.K. (11%) fluoridate any of their water. Most developed countries, including Japan and 97% of the western European population, do not consume fluoridated water. In the U.S., about 70% of public water...

fluoridealert.org

 

[Flie]

Well let me give this a shot. Less cavities=good, lower IQ=bad, more infectious disease=bad (though some would argue that's good), more chronic illness=bad.

Let me rephrase. How is anyone proving that lard is "good" for us while seed oils are "bad"? That 5G and Wifi are "bad"? That fluoride lowers IQ? These are all theories/beliefs but they are regularly spoken as factual by the RFK movement.

Yes... clearly less cavities is good and having lower IQ is bad.

There is zero doubt that vaccines can cause chronic illness, it says it right on the package inserts. The question is, how much? Let's use 54% (that # is getting old, could be higher as it's been increasing) of all children in the US have a chronic illness, and go from there.



For example, looking at one vaccine and one ingredient, looking at hundreds of thousands of children on those two variables alone, and making all clinical trials ultra short-term, low powered, and design with no inert placebo, and then claiming the entire product line is safe? Could that be considered pseudoscience?

There is way more than zero doubt. Starting with the answer they want and connecting dots based on their beliefs is pseudoscience.

It's pretty obvious children consuming fluoride will lower their IQ. If you want to deny it then go ahead.

Pretty obvious, how? Nothing has been proven here. Let's say I remain skeptical.

There's a sizeable body of science that says that RF can cause chronic disease.

Really? There's a tremendous amount of science/data that says otherwise. We've been bathed in radio waves since the early 1900s.

 

[fsu1jreed]

Even if vaccines and fluoride ‘worked’ as advertised (HINT: they don’t) our resident Pharma cultists have made it clear they are more accepting of dealing with autoimmune disease and cancer than they are of brief childhood illnesses and cavities. 🙄

Freaking Bizarro World.

No studies in the US and 64 out of 74 from China

 

[naturalbornhawk]

No studies in the US and 64 out of 74 from China

Think about that.

 

[MichaelKeller99]

Think about that.

Because we’re smarter than other countries. This is America; we ‘settle the science’ here, bitches. USA! USA! USA!


😉

 

[tarheelbybirth]

No studies in the US and 64 out of 74 from China

Fifty-two studies were rated high risk of bias...

 

[QChawks]

we stopped drinking tap water several years ago when we had a home osmosis system installed

no water plastic bottles

just endless high-quality H2O that you refill in your favorite Yeti, Stanley or Camelback

 

[Titanhawk2]

Fluoride in the water was probably a good idea when dental health was not as easy and widespread as it is today. I would suspect that people with poor dental health aren't drinking a lot of tap water anyway. That said, it's a typical government "program" that has outlived its purpose but the "bureaucracy" won't give it up.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Fluoride in the water was probably a good idea when dental health was not as easy and widespread as it is today. I would suspect that people with poor dental health aren't drinking a lot of tap water anyway. That said, it's a typical government "program" that has outlived its purpose but the "bureaucracy" won't give it up.

Do you have any idea how many children live in poverty? How many do you think have dental insurance? Substitute universal healthcare - including basic dental - and I'll join your movement.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

It's pretty obvious children consuming fluoride will lower their IQ.

You drank a LOT of tapwater as a child if this is true.

There's a sizeable body of science that says that RF can cause chronic disease.

Yet, here you are posting on the internet while bathed in RF.

 

[Titus Andronicus]

Who drinks tap water anymore?

I was surprised that this was even an issue still. We do not even have drinking fountains these days. (Boy, were those things gross!)

The whole debate seems to cycle around the plastic used in bottled water and so on. the health police are pushing the higher grade, and more expensive bottles. The cheap stuff seems to end up forming little, teeny weeny, microscopic sized balls and then in turn screw up your insides in addition to all of nature. I have not had a conversation on fluoridation levels in a couple of decades.

 

[MichaelKeller99]

You drank a LOT of tapwater as a child if this is trye.

Yet, here you are posting on the internet while bathed in RF.

The irony.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

I was surprised that this was even an issue still. We do not even have drinking fountains these days. (Boy, were those things gross!)

The whole debate seems to cycle around the plastic used in bottled water and so on. the health police are pushing the higher grade, and more expensive bottles. The cheap stuff seems to end up forming little, teeny weeny, microscopic sized balls and then in turn screw up your insides in addition to all of nature. I have not had a conversation on fluoridation levels in a couple of decades.

Recognizing that you don't drink from a tap, how many (again) of the children living in poverty in this country do you think drink bottled water? Filtered water? Are you saying the lead in Flint's water wasn't a problem because none of the children were drinking it?

Some of you REALLY need to expand your very narrow perspectives.

 

[Titus Andronicus]

Recognizing that you don't drink from a tap, how many (again) of the children living in poverty in this country do you think drink bottled water? Filtered water? Are you saying the lead in Flint's water wasn't a problem because none of the children were drinking it?

Some of you REALLY need to expand your very narrow perspectives.

Fair criticism ... but by my calculation, a case of the cheapest bottled water divided by 24 works out to $.17 for a 16 oz bottle. That is v. a bottle of Diet Pepsi at $2.49 or so. Nothing else that anyone drinks is as economical as a bottle of water.

... and personally, I do not think that any water coming out of a tap anywhere in the country is actually drinkable. It comes out of the sky, cleaning the air of all sorts of carbon waste in the process, runs off into muddy lakes and rivers, is pumped hundreds of miles through 100 year-old pipes, or down open aqueducts to your building which is likely also 50-100 years old. If that water is hard water, it clogs the pipes and faucets in your house/apartment unless you flush your pipes periodically. ... and yet people actually drink this stuff. ... and the local bottlers probably use it in Diet Pepsi as well.

I should add that periodically, there are analyses of the local water quality published in the paper. These seem to indicate that our public water system is unable to eliminate all of the impurities. Indications are that our drinking water includes all sorts of pharmaceutical's as well as human and animal excrement. The articles proclaim that our government has proclaimed that the levels found are "safe." ... However, the thought of cow poop and all sorts of human waste being involved with my drinking water even at trace/safe levels grosses me out.
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Flint? I doubt that every single child in Flint was drinking exclusively tap water prior to their problem. In any case, water quality is always a local political issue, and certain local politicians failed their constituents. ... failed them quite badly in fact. I think FEMA became involved and would have overseen distribution of years' worth of free bottled water to the children you reference.

 

[NorthEndzoneCrew]

Fair criticism ... but by my calculation, a case of the cheapest bottled water divided by 24 works out to $.17 for a 16 oz bottle. That is v. a bottle of Diet Pepsi at $2.49 or so. Nothing else that anyone drinks is as economical as a bottle of water.

... and personally, I do not think that any water coming out of a tap anywhere in the country is actually drinkable. It comes out of the sky, cleaning the air of all sorts of carbon waste in the process, runs off into muddy lakes and rivers, is pumped hundreds of miles through 100 year-old pipes, or down open aqueducts to your building which is likely also 50-100 years old. If that water is hard water, it clogs the pipes and faucets in your house/apartment unless you flush your pipes periodically. ... and yet people actually drink this stuff. ... and the local bottlers probably use it in Diet Pepsi as well.

I should add that periodically, there are analyses of the local water quality published in the paper. These seem to indicate that our public water system is unable to eliminate all of the impurities. Indications are that our drinking water includes all sorts of pharmaceutical's as well as human and animal excrement. The articles proclaim that our government has proclaimed that the levels found are "safe." ... However, the thought of cow poop and all sorts of human waste being involved with my drinking water at trace/safe levels grosses me out.

Yuck!! Yes, I don’t want used water that starts in the sky and does all of that!!! I want brand new, fresh, clean bottled water!!

Frankly it’s a bit disgusting that cities charge us for used water like that! Typical liberal thinking! No common sense!

 

[Rifler]

 

[naturalbornhawk]

I should add that periodically, there are analyses of the local water quality published in the paper. These seem to indicate that our public water system is unable to eliminate all of the impurities.

Municipalities are required to provide an annual report, at least in iowa, for all people who are served. Yes, it ends up being extremely expensive for the residents to filter out all impurities, like nitrates, etc. so they do the best they can, making sure to fly under the EPA's MCLs for the various contaminants.

 

[fsu1jreed]

Fifty-two studies were rated high risk of bias...

Yea .... well over over half