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Don't Be Shocked Trump Lied About COVID On Tape. Be Horrified That It Won't Matter

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Wednesday confirmed something that most of us already suspected: Donald Trump knew all along exactly how deadly COVID-19 was.

“You just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed,” Trump explained to reporter Bob Woodward on February 7. “And so that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu … This is deadly stuff.”

In public, Trump was saying just the opposite.

“We only have five people,” he told Sean Hannity. “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

On February 11, he promised folks at a campaign rally that COVID “miraculously goes away.” Three days later, he assured Geraldo Rivera that “we only have, basically, 12 cases and most of those people are recovering and some cases fully recovered."

On February 24, he panic-tweeted, “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”


Two days later, he told reporters, “When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”

Two days after that, to the delight of his supporters, he was branding COVID as a “new hoax” peddled by the Democrats.

“I wanted always to play it down,” we now know he confessed to Woodward on March 19. “I still like playing it down.”

The shock here isn’t that Trump was lying. Nor that Woodward refused to disclose the truth in real-time. Nor even that the president’s lies contributed to the spread of COVID, which has now killed nearly 200,000 Americans, infected more than six million, and sent the nation spiraling into economic and social chaos.

The shock is that Trump’s support will barely budge.

This story will rage for a few days, as did the news that our commander in chief calls our troops as "losers" and "suckers." As did the news that he attempted to extort Ukraine for dirt on Joe Biden. As did the news that he considers white supremacists “very fine people.” And so on.

Every week — sometimes every day — new revelations emerge that affirm what we already know: Trump is a lazy, inept, bigot with a wounded ego where his heart should be, and a cash register for a conscience.

What matters isn’t this reality, but the fact that a rabid minority of our citizens have become inoculated against it. They live in a cultish bubble of partisan propaganda filled with protective buzz words and talking points, a hivemind fueled by rage, paranoia and shame. For decades, right-wing media demagogues have made billions of dollars exploiting their anguish.

This is why the president of the United States can lie — without consequence — to Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson and Geraldo Rivera, even about a virus that could kill their viewers. Trump didn’t lead a movement in 2016. He merely inherited an audience that had been vaccinated against unwelcome truths years ago.

On days like this, when we come face to face (yet again) with the catastrophic iniquity of Trump, my mind turns to the description of Kurtz that Joseph Conrad offers in "Heart of Darkness": “I saw the inconceivable mystery of a soul that knew no restraint, no faith, and no fear, yet struggling blindly with itself.”

More than that, I think about the forces that led us to award so much power to such an empty man, and have induced so many of our public servants to ignore his abuses, and sanction his lethal efforts to set us against one another.

Conrad was wise to that peril as well. “Your strength,” he observed, “is just an accident arising from the weakness of others.”

Every citizen of good faith will have to stand against that weakness in the weeks to come, or America will become something far more savage and dangerous than a democracy.

 
Wednesday confirmed something that most of us already suspected: Donald Trump knew all along exactly how deadly COVID-19 was.

“You just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed,” Trump explained to reporter Bob Woodward on February 7. “And so that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu … This is deadly stuff.”

In public, Trump was saying just the opposite.

“We only have five people,” he told Sean Hannity. “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

On February 11, he promised folks at a campaign rally that COVID “miraculously goes away.” Three days later, he assured Geraldo Rivera that “we only have, basically, 12 cases and most of those people are recovering and some cases fully recovered."

On February 24, he panic-tweeted, “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”


Two days later, he told reporters, “When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”

Two days after that, to the delight of his supporters, he was branding COVID as a “new hoax” peddled by the Democrats.

“I wanted always to play it down,” we now know he confessed to Woodward on March 19. “I still like playing it down.”

The shock here isn’t that Trump was lying. Nor that Woodward refused to disclose the truth in real-time. Nor even that the president’s lies contributed to the spread of COVID, which has now killed nearly 200,000 Americans, infected more than six million, and sent the nation spiraling into economic and social chaos.

The shock is that Trump’s support will barely budge.

This story will rage for a few days, as did the news that our commander in chief calls our troops as "losers" and "suckers." As did the news that he attempted to extort Ukraine for dirt on Joe Biden. As did the news that he considers white supremacists “very fine people.” And so on.

Every week — sometimes every day — new revelations emerge that affirm what we already know: Trump is a lazy, inept, bigot with a wounded ego where his heart should be, and a cash register for a conscience.

What matters isn’t this reality, but the fact that a rabid minority of our citizens have become inoculated against it. They live in a cultish bubble of partisan propaganda filled with protective buzz words and talking points, a hivemind fueled by rage, paranoia and shame. For decades, right-wing media demagogues have made billions of dollars exploiting their anguish.

This is why the president of the United States can lie — without consequence — to Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson and Geraldo Rivera, even about a virus that could kill their viewers. Trump didn’t lead a movement in 2016. He merely inherited an audience that had been vaccinated against unwelcome truths years ago.

On days like this, when we come face to face (yet again) with the catastrophic iniquity of Trump, my mind turns to the description of Kurtz that Joseph Conrad offers in "Heart of Darkness": “I saw the inconceivable mystery of a soul that knew no restraint, no faith, and no fear, yet struggling blindly with itself.”

More than that, I think about the forces that led us to award so much power to such an empty man, and have induced so many of our public servants to ignore his abuses, and sanction his lethal efforts to set us against one another.

Conrad was wise to that peril as well. “Your strength,” he observed, “is just an accident arising from the weakness of others.”

Every citizen of good faith will have to stand against that weakness in the weeks to come, or America will become something far more savage and dangerous than a democracy.


On January 31, 2020 Trump issued his travel ban proclamation. It describes how serious the virus is. It is no surprise that he knew it was serious, it's right there to read.

Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus
Issued on: January 31, 2020

The United States has confirmed cases of individuals who have a severe acute respiratory illness caused by a novel (new) coronavirus (“2019-nCoV”) (“the virus”) first detected in Wuhan, Hubei Province, People’s Republic of China (“China”). The virus was discovered in China in December 2019. As of January 31, 2020, Chinese health officials have reported approximately 10,000 confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV in China, more than the number of confirmed cases of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) during its 2003 outbreak. An additional 114 cases have been confirmed across 22 other countries; in several of these cases, the infected individuals had not visited China. More than 200 people have died from the virus, all in China.

Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses. Some cause illness in people and others circulate among animals, including camels, cats, and bats. Animal coronaviruses are capable of evolving to infect people and subsequently spreading through human-to-human transmission. This occurred with both Middle East Respiratory Syndrome and SARS. Many of the individuals with the earliest confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV in Wuhan, China had some link to a large seafood and live animal market, suggesting animal-to-human transmission. Later, a growing number of infected individuals reportedly did not have exposure to animal markets, indicating human-to-human transmission. Chinese officials now report that sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus is occurring in China. Manifestations of severe disease have included severe pneumonia, acute respiratory distress syndrome, septic shock, and multi-organ failure.
. . .
The CDC has confirmed that the virus has spread between two people in the United States, representing the first instance of person-to-person transmission of the virus within the United States. The CDC, along with state and local health departments, has limited resources and the public health system could be overwhelmed if sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus occurred in the United States. Sustained human-to-human transmission has the potential to have cascading public health, economic, national security, and societal consequences.
. . .
Outbreaks of novel viral infections among people are always of public health concern, and older adults and people with underlying health conditions may be at increased risk. Public health experts are still learning about the severity of 2019-nCoV. An understanding of the key attributes of this novel virus, including its transmission dynamics, incubation period, and severity, is critical to assessing the risk it poses to the American public. Nonetheless, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has determined that the virus presents a serious public health threat.
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of course he knew all along because he invented the designer virus in a lab. so he knows how to make the vaccine as well. which is why harris does not trust "HIS" vaccine.
 
On January 31, 2020 Trump issued his travel ban proclamation. It describes how serious the virus is. It is no surprise that he knew it was serious, it's right there to read.

Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus
Issued on: January 31, 2020

The United States has confirmed cases of individuals who have a severe acute respiratory illness caused by a novel (new) coronavirus (“2019-nCoV”) (“the virus”) first detected in Wuhan, Hubei Province, People’s Republic of China (“China”). The virus was discovered in China in December 2019. As of January 31, 2020, Chinese health officials have reported approximately 10,000 confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV in China, more than the number of confirmed cases of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) during its 2003 outbreak. An additional 114 cases have been confirmed across 22 other countries; in several of these cases, the infected individuals had not visited China. More than 200 people have died from the virus, all in China.

Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses. Some cause illness in people and others circulate among animals, including camels, cats, and bats. Animal coronaviruses are capable of evolving to infect people and subsequently spreading through human-to-human transmission. This occurred with both Middle East Respiratory Syndrome and SARS. Many of the individuals with the earliest confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV in Wuhan, China had some link to a large seafood and live animal market, suggesting animal-to-human transmission. Later, a growing number of infected individuals reportedly did not have exposure to animal markets, indicating human-to-human transmission. Chinese officials now report that sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus is occurring in China. Manifestations of severe disease have included severe pneumonia, acute respiratory distress syndrome, septic shock, and multi-organ failure.
. . .
The CDC has confirmed that the virus has spread between two people in the United States, representing the first instance of person-to-person transmission of the virus within the United States. The CDC, along with state and local health departments, has limited resources and the public health system could be overwhelmed if sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus occurred in the United States. Sustained human-to-human transmission has the potential to have cascading public health, economic, national security, and societal consequences.
. . .
Outbreaks of novel viral infections among people are always of public health concern, and older adults and people with underlying health conditions may be at increased risk. Public health experts are still learning about the severity of 2019-nCoV. An understanding of the key attributes of this novel virus, including its transmission dynamics, incubation period, and severity, is critical to assessing the risk it poses to the American public. Nonetheless, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has determined that the virus presents a serious public health threat.
. . .

Proclamation 1/31/2020
It sure would have been nice if Trump's words and actions matched this...because it would have pretty much guaranteed him a second term. Also, thousands of Americans would still be alive who didn't need to die.
 
You have to remember that Trump is operating in a 93% support "at all costs" Republican party. They will resist; they are solidly locked in now. Trump or bust.

Senator John Kennedy (R-Denial) is out early with talking point food for the guppies: Just another "gotcha" hit job. Reminded that Woodward's revelation is Trump himself freely volunteering his thoughts on tape, Kennedy insisted he is not interested in "gotcha books". Ostriches everywhere were embarrassed for him.
 
It sure would have been nice if Trump's words and actions matched this...because it would have pretty much guaranteed him a second term. Also, thousands of Americans would still be alive who didn't need to die.
this is correct, because trump is a freemason he wants to kill off many thousands of people somehow. georgia guidestones and all.
 
You have to remember that Trump is operating in a 93% support "at all costs" Republican party. They will resist; they are solidly locked in now. Trump or bust.

Senator John Kennedy (R-Denial) is out early with talking point food for the guppies: Just another "gotcha" hit job. Reminded that Woodward's revelation is Trump himself freely volunteering his thoughts, Kennedy insisted he is not interested in "gotcha books". Ostriches everywhere were embarrassed for him.
investigate and impeach right now!! you have but a few days left.
 
Wednesday confirmed something that most of us already suspected: Donald Trump knew all along exactly how deadly COVID-19 was.

“You just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed,” Trump explained to reporter Bob Woodward on February 7. “And so that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu … This is deadly stuff.”

In public, Trump was saying just the opposite.

“We only have five people,” he told Sean Hannity. “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

On February 11, he promised folks at a campaign rally that COVID “miraculously goes away.” Three days later, he assured Geraldo Rivera that “we only have, basically, 12 cases and most of those people are recovering and some cases fully recovered."

On February 24, he panic-tweeted, “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”


Two days later, he told reporters, “When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”

Two days after that, to the delight of his supporters, he was branding COVID as a “new hoax” peddled by the Democrats.

“I wanted always to play it down,” we now know he confessed to Woodward on March 19. “I still like playing it down.”

The shock here isn’t that Trump was lying. Nor that Woodward refused to disclose the truth in real-time. Nor even that the president’s lies contributed to the spread of COVID, which has now killed nearly 200,000 Americans, infected more than six million, and sent the nation spiraling into economic and social chaos.

The shock is that Trump’s support will barely budge.

This story will rage for a few days, as did the news that our commander in chief calls our troops as "losers" and "suckers." As did the news that he attempted to extort Ukraine for dirt on Joe Biden. As did the news that he considers white supremacists “very fine people.” And so on.

Every week — sometimes every day — new revelations emerge that affirm what we already know: Trump is a lazy, inept, bigot with a wounded ego where his heart should be, and a cash register for a conscience.

What matters isn’t this reality, but the fact that a rabid minority of our citizens have become inoculated against it. They live in a cultish bubble of partisan propaganda filled with protective buzz words and talking points, a hivemind fueled by rage, paranoia and shame. For decades, right-wing media demagogues have made billions of dollars exploiting their anguish.

This is why the president of the United States can lie — without consequence — to Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson and Geraldo Rivera, even about a virus that could kill their viewers. Trump didn’t lead a movement in 2016. He merely inherited an audience that had been vaccinated against unwelcome truths years ago.

On days like this, when we come face to face (yet again) with the catastrophic iniquity of Trump, my mind turns to the description of Kurtz that Joseph Conrad offers in "Heart of Darkness": “I saw the inconceivable mystery of a soul that knew no restraint, no faith, and no fear, yet struggling blindly with itself.”

More than that, I think about the forces that led us to award so much power to such an empty man, and have induced so many of our public servants to ignore his abuses, and sanction his lethal efforts to set us against one another.

Conrad was wise to that peril as well. “Your strength,” he observed, “is just an accident arising from the weakness of others.”

Every citizen of good faith will have to stand against that weakness in the weeks to come, or America will become something far more savage and dangerous than a democracy.

That was exceptional. Perfectly and thoroughly stated. Thanks for sharing this.
 
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On January 31, 2020 Trump issued his travel ban proclamation. It describes how serious the virus is. It is no surprise that he knew it was serious, it's right there to read.

Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus
Issued on: January 31, 2020

The United States has confirmed cases of individuals who have a severe acute respiratory illness caused by a novel (new) coronavirus (“2019-nCoV”) (“the virus”) first detected in Wuhan, Hubei Province, People’s Republic of China (“China”). The virus was discovered in China in December 2019. As of January 31, 2020, Chinese health officials have reported approximately 10,000 confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV in China, more than the number of confirmed cases of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) during its 2003 outbreak. An additional 114 cases have been confirmed across 22 other countries; in several of these cases, the infected individuals had not visited China. More than 200 people have died from the virus, all in China.

Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses. Some cause illness in people and others circulate among animals, including camels, cats, and bats. Animal coronaviruses are capable of evolving to infect people and subsequently spreading through human-to-human transmission. This occurred with both Middle East Respiratory Syndrome and SARS. Many of the individuals with the earliest confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV in Wuhan, China had some link to a large seafood and live animal market, suggesting animal-to-human transmission. Later, a growing number of infected individuals reportedly did not have exposure to animal markets, indicating human-to-human transmission. Chinese officials now report that sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus is occurring in China. Manifestations of severe disease have included severe pneumonia, acute respiratory distress syndrome, septic shock, and multi-organ failure.
. . .
The CDC has confirmed that the virus has spread between two people in the United States, representing the first instance of person-to-person transmission of the virus within the United States. The CDC, along with state and local health departments, has limited resources and the public health system could be overwhelmed if sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus occurred in the United States. Sustained human-to-human transmission has the potential to have cascading public health, economic, national security, and societal consequences.
. . .
Outbreaks of novel viral infections among people are always of public health concern, and older adults and people with underlying health conditions may be at increased risk. Public health experts are still learning about the severity of 2019-nCoV. An understanding of the key attributes of this novel virus, including its transmission dynamics, incubation period, and severity, is critical to assessing the risk it poses to the American public. Nonetheless, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has determined that the virus presents a serious public health threat.
. . .

Proclamation 1/31/2020
Ahhh, the travel ban binky that Trumpers continually pull over themselves as they curl up.
 
Wednesday confirmed something that most of us already suspected: Donald Trump knew all along exactly how deadly COVID-19 was.

“You just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed,” Trump explained to reporter Bob Woodward on February 7. “And so that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu … This is deadly stuff.”

In public, Trump was saying just the opposite.

“We only have five people,” he told Sean Hannity. “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

On February 11, he promised folks at a campaign rally that COVID “miraculously goes away.” Three days later, he assured Geraldo Rivera that “we only have, basically, 12 cases and most of those people are recovering and some cases fully recovered."

On February 24, he panic-tweeted, “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”


Two days later, he told reporters, “When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”

Two days after that, to the delight of his supporters, he was branding COVID as a “new hoax” peddled by the Democrats.

“I wanted always to play it down,” we now know he confessed to Woodward on March 19. “I still like playing it down.”

The shock here isn’t that Trump was lying. Nor that Woodward refused to disclose the truth in real-time. Nor even that the president’s lies contributed to the spread of COVID, which has now killed nearly 200,000 Americans, infected more than six million, and sent the nation spiraling into economic and social chaos.

The shock is that Trump’s support will barely budge.

This story will rage for a few days, as did the news that our commander in chief calls our troops as "losers" and "suckers." As did the news that he attempted to extort Ukraine for dirt on Joe Biden. As did the news that he considers white supremacists “very fine people.” And so on.

Every week — sometimes every day — new revelations emerge that affirm what we already know: Trump is a lazy, inept, bigot with a wounded ego where his heart should be, and a cash register for a conscience.

What matters isn’t this reality, but the fact that a rabid minority of our citizens have become inoculated against it. They live in a cultish bubble of partisan propaganda filled with protective buzz words and talking points, a hivemind fueled by rage, paranoia and shame. For decades, right-wing media demagogues have made billions of dollars exploiting their anguish.

This is why the president of the United States can lie — without consequence — to Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson and Geraldo Rivera, even about a virus that could kill their viewers. Trump didn’t lead a movement in 2016. He merely inherited an audience that had been vaccinated against unwelcome truths years ago.

On days like this, when we come face to face (yet again) with the catastrophic iniquity of Trump, my mind turns to the description of Kurtz that Joseph Conrad offers in "Heart of Darkness": “I saw the inconceivable mystery of a soul that knew no restraint, no faith, and no fear, yet struggling blindly with itself.”

More than that, I think about the forces that led us to award so much power to such an empty man, and have induced so many of our public servants to ignore his abuses, and sanction his lethal efforts to set us against one another.

Conrad was wise to that peril as well. “Your strength,” he observed, “is just an accident arising from the weakness of others.”

Every citizen of good faith will have to stand against that weakness in the weeks to come, or America will become something far more savage and dangerous than a democracy.

THE RETROSPECTOSCOPE IS AN INSTRUMENT OF VERY FINE FOCUS.
 
It sure would have been nice if Trump's words and actions matched this...because it would have pretty much guaranteed him a second term. Also, thousands of Americans would still be alive who didn't need to die.

Trump would easily be reelected if he did even a poor to mediocre job of handling the pandemic.

The I don't want to cause panic rings hallow when looking at how he is handling the recent events of civil unrest. It's amazing how he promotes civil unrest and blames his direct opponent and his followers suck it up 100%.
 
On January 31, 2020 Trump issued his travel ban proclamation. It describes how serious the virus is. It is no surprise that he knew it was serious, it's right there to read.

Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus
Issued on: January 31, 2020

The United States has confirmed cases of individuals who have a severe acute respiratory illness caused by a novel (new) coronavirus (“2019-nCoV”) (“the virus”) first detected in Wuhan, Hubei Province, People’s Republic of China (“China”). The virus was discovered in China in December 2019. As of January 31, 2020, Chinese health officials have reported approximately 10,000 confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV in China, more than the number of confirmed cases of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) during its 2003 outbreak. An additional 114 cases have been confirmed across 22 other countries; in several of these cases, the infected individuals had not visited China. More than 200 people have died from the virus, all in China.

Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses. Some cause illness in people and others circulate among animals, including camels, cats, and bats. Animal coronaviruses are capable of evolving to infect people and subsequently spreading through human-to-human transmission. This occurred with both Middle East Respiratory Syndrome and SARS. Many of the individuals with the earliest confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV in Wuhan, China had some link to a large seafood and live animal market, suggesting animal-to-human transmission. Later, a growing number of infected individuals reportedly did not have exposure to animal markets, indicating human-to-human transmission. Chinese officials now report that sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus is occurring in China. Manifestations of severe disease have included severe pneumonia, acute respiratory distress syndrome, septic shock, and multi-organ failure.
. . .
The CDC has confirmed that the virus has spread between two people in the United States, representing the first instance of person-to-person transmission of the virus within the United States. The CDC, along with state and local health departments, has limited resources and the public health system could be overwhelmed if sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus occurred in the United States. Sustained human-to-human transmission has the potential to have cascading public health, economic, national security, and societal consequences.
. . .
Outbreaks of novel viral infections among people are always of public health concern, and older adults and people with underlying health conditions may be at increased risk. Public health experts are still learning about the severity of 2019-nCoV. An understanding of the key attributes of this novel virus, including its transmission dynamics, incubation period, and severity, is critical to assessing the risk it poses to the American public. Nonetheless, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has determined that the virus presents a serious public health threat.
. . .

Proclamation 1/31/2020
Great he shut one screen door. But left the windows open and the rest of the house unlocked.
 
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I have a very difficult time believing those senior citizens in Florida and Arizona will forgive Trump and that they don't care.

I predict Trump loses both States.
 
I have a very difficult time believing those senior citizens in Florida and Arizona will forgive Trump and that they don't care.

I predict Trump loses both States.
Really? I was watching some video two weeks ago shot at some retirement community in Florida, and there were plenty of one issue voters, and old folks who clearly aren't comfortable with the changing demographics of America who are clinging to Trump.
 
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Really? I was watching some video two weeks ago shot at some retirement community in Florida, and there were plenty of one issue voters, and old folks who clearly aren't comfortable with the changing demographics of America who are clinging to Trump.
Similar to the rednecks on boats, I'm sure there is some support that he'll won't ever lose, but the poll that numb nuts referred to earlier this week... Biden now leads in Florida with seniors that overwhelmingly backed Trump in 2016.

We'll know in seven weeks.
 
Wednesday confirmed something that most of us already suspected: Donald Trump knew all along exactly how deadly COVID-19 was.

“You just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed,” Trump explained to reporter Bob Woodward on February 7. “And so that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu … This is deadly stuff.”

In public, Trump was saying just the opposite.

“We only have five people,” he told Sean Hannity. “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

On February 11, he promised folks at a campaign rally that COVID “miraculously goes away.” Three days later, he assured Geraldo Rivera that “we only have, basically, 12 cases and most of those people are recovering and some cases fully recovered."

On February 24, he panic-tweeted, “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”


Two days later, he told reporters, “When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”

Two days after that, to the delight of his supporters, he was branding COVID as a “new hoax” peddled by the Democrats.

“I wanted always to play it down,” we now know he confessed to Woodward on March 19. “I still like playing it down.”

The shock here isn’t that Trump was lying. Nor that Woodward refused to disclose the truth in real-time. Nor even that the president’s lies contributed to the spread of COVID, which has now killed nearly 200,000 Americans, infected more than six million, and sent the nation spiraling into economic and social chaos.

The shock is that Trump’s support will barely budge.

This story will rage for a few days, as did the news that our commander in chief calls our troops as "losers" and "suckers." As did the news that he attempted to extort Ukraine for dirt on Joe Biden. As did the news that he considers white supremacists “very fine people.” And so on.

Every week — sometimes every day — new revelations emerge that affirm what we already know: Trump is a lazy, inept, bigot with a wounded ego where his heart should be, and a cash register for a conscience.

What matters isn’t this reality, but the fact that a rabid minority of our citizens have become inoculated against it. They live in a cultish bubble of partisan propaganda filled with protective buzz words and talking points, a hivemind fueled by rage, paranoia and shame. For decades, right-wing media demagogues have made billions of dollars exploiting their anguish.

This is why the president of the United States can lie — without consequence — to Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson and Geraldo Rivera, even about a virus that could kill their viewers. Trump didn’t lead a movement in 2016. He merely inherited an audience that had been vaccinated against unwelcome truths years ago.

On days like this, when we come face to face (yet again) with the catastrophic iniquity of Trump, my mind turns to the description of Kurtz that Joseph Conrad offers in "Heart of Darkness": “I saw the inconceivable mystery of a soul that knew no restraint, no faith, and no fear, yet struggling blindly with itself.”

More than that, I think about the forces that led us to award so much power to such an empty man, and have induced so many of our public servants to ignore his abuses, and sanction his lethal efforts to set us against one another.

Conrad was wise to that peril as well. “Your strength,” he observed, “is just an accident arising from the weakness of others.”

Every citizen of good faith will have to stand against that weakness in the weeks to come, or America will become something far more savage and dangerous than a democracy.

“You just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed,” Trump explained to reporter Bob Woodward on February 7. “And so that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu … This is deadly stuff.”

In public, Trump was saying just the opposite.

“We only have five people,” he told Sean Hannity. “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

How are these opposites? These are two statements about two different things - 1 how he thinks it is transmitted and 2 the situation at the time. How does a rational person claim that one contradicts the other?
 
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On January 31, 2020 Trump issued his travel ban proclamation. It describes how serious the virus is. It is no surprise that he knew it was serious, it's right there to read.

Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus
Issued on: January 31, 2020

The United States has confirmed cases of individuals who have a severe acute respiratory illness caused by a novel (new) coronavirus (“2019-nCoV”) (“the virus”) first detected in Wuhan, Hubei Province, People’s Republic of China (“China”). The virus was discovered in China in December 2019. As of January 31, 2020, Chinese health officials have reported approximately 10,000 confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV in China, more than the number of confirmed cases of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) during its 2003 outbreak. An additional 114 cases have been confirmed across 22 other countries; in several of these cases, the infected individuals had not visited China. More than 200 people have died from the virus, all in China.

Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses. Some cause illness in people and others circulate among animals, including camels, cats, and bats. Animal coronaviruses are capable of evolving to infect people and subsequently spreading through human-to-human transmission. This occurred with both Middle East Respiratory Syndrome and SARS. Many of the individuals with the earliest confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV in Wuhan, China had some link to a large seafood and live animal market, suggesting animal-to-human transmission. Later, a growing number of infected individuals reportedly did not have exposure to animal markets, indicating human-to-human transmission. Chinese officials now report that sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus is occurring in China. Manifestations of severe disease have included severe pneumonia, acute respiratory distress syndrome, septic shock, and multi-organ failure.
. . .
The CDC has confirmed that the virus has spread between two people in the United States, representing the first instance of person-to-person transmission of the virus within the United States. The CDC, along with state and local health departments, has limited resources and the public health system could be overwhelmed if sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus occurred in the United States. Sustained human-to-human transmission has the potential to have cascading public health, economic, national security, and societal consequences.
. . .
Outbreaks of novel viral infections among people are always of public health concern, and older adults and people with underlying health conditions may be at increased risk. Public health experts are still learning about the severity of 2019-nCoV. An understanding of the key attributes of this novel virus, including its transmission dynamics, incubation period, and severity, is critical to assessing the risk it poses to the American public. Nonetheless, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has determined that the virus presents a serious public health threat.
. . .

Proclamation 1/31/2020


What is this? Why are you posting this! In February he said 15 people had it, and it soon would be 0. Why would you post this bullshit.

It is too late for the lies and cover ups. It's out in the open now.
 
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I'm horrified my children cannot be in school even though they want to be. We want them to be. There is no evidence that they shouldn't be. There is overwhelming evidence and expert opinion that they should be. And yet they are not. It's really quite horrifying to me.
 
Wednesday confirmed something that most of us already suspected: Donald Trump knew all along exactly how deadly COVID-19 was.

“You just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed,” Trump explained to reporter Bob Woodward on February 7. “And so that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu … This is deadly stuff.”

In public, Trump was saying just the opposite.

“We only have five people,” he told Sean Hannity. “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

On February 11, he promised folks at a campaign rally that COVID “miraculously goes away.” Three days later, he assured Geraldo Rivera that “we only have, basically, 12 cases and most of those people are recovering and some cases fully recovered."

On February 24, he panic-tweeted, “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”


Two days later, he told reporters, “When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”

Two days after that, to the delight of his supporters, he was branding COVID as a “new hoax” peddled by the Democrats.

“I wanted always to play it down,” we now know he confessed to Woodward on March 19. “I still like playing it down.”

The shock here isn’t that Trump was lying. Nor that Woodward refused to disclose the truth in real-time. Nor even that the president’s lies contributed to the spread of COVID, which has now killed nearly 200,000 Americans, infected more than six million, and sent the nation spiraling into economic and social chaos.

The shock is that Trump’s support will barely budge.

This story will rage for a few days, as did the news that our commander in chief calls our troops as "losers" and "suckers." As did the news that he attempted to extort Ukraine for dirt on Joe Biden. As did the news that he considers white supremacists “very fine people.” And so on.

Every week — sometimes every day — new revelations emerge that affirm what we already know: Trump is a lazy, inept, bigot with a wounded ego where his heart should be, and a cash register for a conscience.

What matters isn’t this reality, but the fact that a rabid minority of our citizens have become inoculated against it. They live in a cultish bubble of partisan propaganda filled with protective buzz words and talking points, a hivemind fueled by rage, paranoia and shame. For decades, right-wing media demagogues have made billions of dollars exploiting their anguish.

This is why the president of the United States can lie — without consequence — to Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson and Geraldo Rivera, even about a virus that could kill their viewers. Trump didn’t lead a movement in 2016. He merely inherited an audience that had been vaccinated against unwelcome truths years ago.

On days like this, when we come face to face (yet again) with the catastrophic iniquity of Trump, my mind turns to the description of Kurtz that Joseph Conrad offers in "Heart of Darkness": “I saw the inconceivable mystery of a soul that knew no restraint, no faith, and no fear, yet struggling blindly with itself.”

More than that, I think about the forces that led us to award so much power to such an empty man, and have induced so many of our public servants to ignore his abuses, and sanction his lethal efforts to set us against one another.

Conrad was wise to that peril as well. “Your strength,” he observed, “is just an accident arising from the weakness of others.”

Every citizen of good faith will have to stand against that weakness in the weeks to come, or America will become something far more savage and dangerous than a democracy.

WHEN YOUR SIDE WANTS TO ABORT BABIES AFTER THEY'RE BORN, DEFUND THE POLICE, TEAR DOWN THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT, TEAR DOWN THE LINCOLN MEMORIAL, LET CRIMINALS OUT OF JAIL, SUPPORT SANCTUARY CITIES, AND HAVE NO BORDERS, GET BACK TO ME.
 
THE RETROSPECTOSCOPE IS AN INSTRUMENT OF VERY FINE FOCUS.

Retro? He knew of the virus and its characteristics in January. His interview was on February 7. This is the problem. He was briefed early enough that a prompt response on a national level would have facilitated life saving measures. This is what is expected of presidential administrations.

A plan for response to meet pandemic crisis had been passed from the Obama administration, and Bolton had developed a similar plan. For some reason the Orange Turd trashed both plans and went his own way, which was no plan.

The actual crime was that the Orange Turd decided to lie to the public and refused to allow health officials to speak. He commandeered the press conferences, spoke exclusively, lied continually, took all questions and answered despite having no medical expertise, refusing to allow the experts with the knowledge to speak. It was a fiasco that deepened the confusion and misinformation.

Nearly 200,000 U.S. citizens have died. It can only be estimated how many tens of thousands died due to his intervention and inaction. Hopefully he will be made to pay for his crimes. Then we will see retro.

Edit: still no national response. 1000 deaths/day. Tick-tock.
 
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WHEN YOUR SIDE WANTS TO ABORT BABIES AFTER THEY'RE BORN, DEFUND THE POLICE, TEAR DOWN THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT, TEAR DOWN THE LINCOLN MEMORIAL, LET CRIMINALS OUT OF JAIL, SUPPORT SANCTUARY CITIES, AND HAVE NO BORDERS, GET BACK TO ME.

Why are you yelling, Boris?
 
On January 31, 2020 Trump issued his travel ban proclamation. It describes how serious the virus is. It is no surprise that he knew it was serious, it's right there to read.

Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus
Issued on: January 31, 2020

The United States has confirmed cases of individuals who have a severe acute respiratory illness caused by a novel (new) coronavirus (“2019-nCoV”) (“the virus”) first detected in Wuhan, Hubei Province, People’s Republic of China (“China”). The virus was discovered in China in December 2019. As of January 31, 2020, Chinese health officials have reported approximately 10,000 confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV in China, more than the number of confirmed cases of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) during its 2003 outbreak. An additional 114 cases have been confirmed across 22 other countries; in several of these cases, the infected individuals had not visited China. More than 200 people have died from the virus, all in China.

Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses. Some cause illness in people and others circulate among animals, including camels, cats, and bats. Animal coronaviruses are capable of evolving to infect people and subsequently spreading through human-to-human transmission. This occurred with both Middle East Respiratory Syndrome and SARS. Many of the individuals with the earliest confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV in Wuhan, China had some link to a large seafood and live animal market, suggesting animal-to-human transmission. Later, a growing number of infected individuals reportedly did not have exposure to animal markets, indicating human-to-human transmission. Chinese officials now report that sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus is occurring in China. Manifestations of severe disease have included severe pneumonia, acute respiratory distress syndrome, septic shock, and multi-organ failure.
. . .
The CDC has confirmed that the virus has spread between two people in the United States, representing the first instance of person-to-person transmission of the virus within the United States. The CDC, along with state and local health departments, has limited resources and the public health system could be overwhelmed if sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus occurred in the United States. Sustained human-to-human transmission has the potential to have cascading public health, economic, national security, and societal consequences.
. . .
Outbreaks of novel viral infections among people are always of public health concern, and older adults and people with underlying health conditions may be at increased risk. Public health experts are still learning about the severity of 2019-nCoV. An understanding of the key attributes of this novel virus, including its transmission dynamics, incubation period, and severity, is critical to assessing the risk it poses to the American public. Nonetheless, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has determined that the virus presents a serious public health threat.
. . .

Proclamation 1/31/2020

That's all well and good, but then he continued holding his emotional support rallies downplaying the seriousness of the virus. His messaging throughout the pandemic has been schizophrenic at best, namely with wearing masks.

He was right on the travel ban but that doesn't negate the egregious stupidity that ensued. When I was in school, being correct one out of ? is still failing.
 
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Retro? He knew of the virus and its characteristics in January. His interview was on February 7. This is the problem. He was briefed early enough that a prompt response on a national level would have facilitated life saving measures. This is what is expected of presidential administrations.

A plan for response to meet pandemic crisis had been passed from the Obama administration, and Bolton had developed a similar plan. For some reason the Orange Turd trashed both plans and went his own way, which was no plan.

The actual crime was that the Orange Turd decided to lie to the public and refused to allow health officials to speak. He commandeered the press conferences, spoke exclusively, lied continually, took all questions and answered despite having no medical expertise, refusing to allow the experts with the knowledge to speak. It was a fiasco that deepened the confusion and misinformation.

Nearly 200,000 U.S. citizens have died. It can only be estimated how many tens of thousands died due to his intervention and inaction. Hopefully he will be made to pay for his crimes. Then we will see retro.

Edit: still no national response. 1000 deaths/day. Tick-tock.
We really don't understand the virus much to this day. Trump was right not to cause panic. You can stick the retrospectoscope up your butt.
 
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