Drake @ UNI

[stender72865]

Went to Drake/UNI game yesterday. First + foremost, what a great game. Really impressed with both teams. Sellout crowd. Great environment!

The reason I started this thread was to comment on the stupidity of Iowa AND Iowa State not playing home + home with UNI + Drake.

People will use $$$ as an argument. People will argue Fran is still mad about officiating at UNI a few years back. Both arguments are not strong enough (IMHO) to offset the reasons TO play both games.

Most important reason to play Drake and UNI is excitement. Games at all arenas would be a sellout. The atmosphere would be electric. UNI and Drake have good teams + good programs. Finally, playing Drake + UNI is 1000x more interesting than playing Florida A&M or Cal Poly..

I just think the positives of playing an in-state school completely offset any perceived negatives.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Thoughts?

 

[TCOOL]

Went to Drake/UNI game yesterday. First + foremost, what a great game. Really impressed with both teams. Sellout crowd. Great environment!

The reason I started this thread was to comment on the stupidity of Iowa AND Iowa State not playing home + home with UNI + Drake.

People will use $$$ as an argument. People will argue Fran is still mad about officiating at UNI a few years back. Both arguments are not strong enough (IMHO) to offset the reasons TO play both games.

Most important reason to play Drake and UNI is excitement. Games at all arenas would be a sellout. The atmosphere would be electric. UNI and Drake have good teams + good programs. Finally, playing Drake + UNI is 1000x more interesting than playing Florida A&M or Cal Poly..

I just think the positives of playing an in-state school completely offset any perceived negatives.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Thoughts?

I understand why you would want to replace Florida A&M with Drake or UNI.

And no, the best I could see is a 2 out of 3 or 3 out 4 of setup with each team.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Drake and UNI will not come to carver without a return game.

a big ten team playing on the road at a low major is criminally stupid.

 

[Mohawkeye]

No thanks.

 

[hooper56]

Went to Drake/UNI game yesterday. First + foremost, what a great game. Really impressed with both teams. Sellout crowd. Great environment!

The reason I started this thread was to comment on the stupidity of Iowa AND Iowa State not playing home + home with UNI + Drake.

People will use $$$ as an argument. People will argue Fran is still mad about officiating at UNI a few years back. Both arguments are not strong enough (IMHO) to offset the reasons TO play both games.

Most important reason to play Drake and UNI is excitement. Games at all arenas would be a sellout. The atmosphere would be electric. UNI and Drake have good teams + good programs. Finally, playing Drake + UNI is 1000x more interesting than playing Florida A&M or Cal Poly..

I just think the positives of playing an in-state school completely offset any perceived negatives.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Thoughts?

I think there is absolutely no upside for Iowa to play at UNI or Drake. There is no advantage for Iowa and it costs them money.

 

[wbrhawkeye]

No thanks! We get no credit for beating them and it would be bad losses losing to them. No reason in hell to play a home and away with them.

 

[BaldHawk4Life]

Pretty sure Roy Williams realized how stupid it was to go to UNI. Here is the thing... the upgrade in schedule has Iowa higher in the RPI/NET than they would normally be with this record. Both teams would also sellout Hilton and Carver. If they want to go on the road awesome... if not -Cincy on a neutral court is fun

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

The best we can ask for is the reintroduction of the neutral site in Des Moines.

I know this would be highly inconvenient for UNI, but they only have themselves to blame for their f**kery with the officials in the 2012 game.

UNI and Drake agree to alternate road trips to Iowa and ISU while both face one at Wells Fargo Arena each year. It would technically be a neutral site game for Drake, but they'd only have themselves to blame for not making it a home environment.

For example, let's say this started next season:

2021
UNI at Iowa
Drake at ISU
Iowa vs Drake (at WFA)
ISU vs UNI (at WFA)

Then in 2022:
Drake at Iowa
UNI at ISU
Iowa vs UNI (at WFA)
ISU vs Drake (at WFA)

At least this way, everyone plays each other every season again.

That's the only way this happens, unless Drake and UNI can collectively swallow their pride and always play on the road against Iowa and ISU.

The funny thing is, I know why Iowa won't play.......but I don't know why Iowa State wouldn't try to take advantage of the situation, and try to be the white knight and paint Iowa as the villainous outcast by scheduling Drake and UNI again. There really isn't anything, to my knowledge, that's stopping them from doing so, aside from "if Iowa isn't then we're not".

I would think ISU would be petty enough to think bringing UNI and Drake back on the schedule would be another way for Pollard to try to get one up on Iowa........

Perhaps I give the Cyclones too much credit?

 

[walleye hunter16]

Not significantly important to anyone outside the state.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

The best we can ask for is the reintroduction of the neutral site in Des Moines.

I know this would be highly inconvenient for UNI, but they only have themselves to blame for their f**kery with the officials in the 2012 game.

UNI and Drake agree to alternate road trips to Iowa and ISU while both face one at Wells Fargo Arena each year. It would technically be a neutral site game for Drake, but they'd only have themselves to blame for not making it a home environment.

For example, let's say this started next season:

2021
UNI at Iowa
Drake at ISU
Iowa vs Drake (at WFA)
ISU vs UNI (at WFA)

Then in 2022:
Drake at Iowa
UNI at ISU
Iowa vs UNI (at WFA)
ISU vs Drake (at WFA)

At least this way, everyone plays each other every season again.

That's the only way this happens, unless Drake and UNI can collectively swallow their pride and always play on the road against Iowa and ISU.

The funny thing is, I know why Iowa won't play.......but I don't know why Iowa State wouldn't try to take advantage of the situation, and try to be the white knight and paint Iowa as the villainous outcast by scheduling Drake and UNI again. There really isn't anything, to my knowledge, that's stopping them from doing so, aside from "if Iowa isn't then we're not".

I would think ISU would be petty enough to think bringing UNI and Drake back on the schedule would be another way for Pollard to try to get one up on Iowa........

Perhaps I give the Cyclones too much credit?

plus iowa did just fine against UNI, particularly for how bad we were at the time. It was ISU who couldn’t beat UNI...not sure why iowa takes all the blame here.

if UNI administration and fans had tried keeping a sense of respect in the series it would have stayed around, but the hardcore UNI fans vastly overrated their position and dannen in particular was a real douche.

I am also a UNI fan so i would obviously rather see a neutral site P5 game like last year.

 

[Kabby]

Went to Drake/UNI game yesterday. First + foremost, what a great game. Really impressed with both teams. Sellout crowd. Great environment!

The reason I started this thread was to comment on the stupidity of Iowa AND Iowa State not playing home + home with UNI + Drake.

People will use $$$ as an argument. People will argue Fran is still mad about officiating at UNI a few years back. Both arguments are not strong enough (IMHO) to offset the reasons TO play both games.

Most important reason to play Drake and UNI is excitement. Games at all arenas would be a sellout. The atmosphere would be electric. UNI and Drake have good teams + good programs. Finally, playing Drake + UNI is 1000x more interesting than playing Florida A&M or Cal Poly..

I just think the positives of playing an in-state school completely offset any perceived negatives.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Thoughts?

UNI has themselves to blame. And no Iowa doesn't need to go to a mid-major to play.

 

[ChiPackHawk]

Drake and UNI will not come to carver without a return game.

a big ten team playing on the road at a low major is criminally stupid.

Don’t forget adding having a gigantic chip on their shoulder! The way games are weighted, playing them makes no sense other than giving UNI or Drake a chance for a signature win.

 

[Underscore2]

There’s lots of upside in playing UNI and Drake, since both programs are doing well and won’t kill our NET much.

Even if we happen to drop one. No major drawbacks, for the most part.

I.E. Colorado.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

There’s lots of upside in playing UNI and Drake, since both programs are doing well and won’t kill our NET much.

Even if we happen to drop one. No major drawbacks, for the most part.

I.E. Colorado.

what upside?

 

[ChiPackHawk]

What exactly is the upside for Iowa? As an Iowan, I like to see all schools do well. Not Iowa State, but you get my point. As a University of Iowa fan, I don't want anything done that has no upside for the team.

 

[anon_2zMXH429BhxV1Npk]

There’s lots of upside in playing UNI and Drake, since both programs are doing well and won’t kill our NET much.

Even if we happen to drop one. No major drawbacks, for the most part.

I.E. Colorado.

In what world is playing @ #139 Drake have upside? It's a Quad 3 game and Quad 3/4 should only ever be home games vs. OOC cupcakes and bad conference teams you have no choice in playing.

And just last year UNI was similarly a Quad 3 game if we played on the road. It's just not worth it to play a low ranked team on the road when it does nothing to help your season/program. Excitement for UNI or Drake doesn't do anything for Iowa basketball, no cares about the "excitement" for the state.

 

[Run&Blade]

The best we can ask for is the reintroduction of the neutral site in Des Moines.

I know this would be highly inconvenient for UNI, but they only have themselves to blame for their f**kery with the officials in the 2012 game.

UNI and Drake agree to alternate road trips to Iowa and ISU while both face one at Wells Fargo Arena each year. It would technically be a neutral site game for Drake, but they'd only have themselves to blame for not making it a home environment.

For example, let's say this started next season:

2021
UNI at Iowa
Drake at ISU
Iowa vs Drake (at WFA)
ISU vs UNI (at WFA)

Then in 2022:
Drake at Iowa
UNI at ISU
Iowa vs UNI (at WFA)
ISU vs Drake (at WFA)

At least this way, everyone plays each other every season again.

That's the only way this happens, unless Drake and UNI can collectively swallow their pride and always play on the road against Iowa and ISU.

The funny thing is, I know why Iowa won't play.......but I don't know why Iowa State wouldn't try to take advantage of the situation, and try to be the white knight and paint Iowa as the villainous outcast by scheduling Drake and UNI again. There really isn't anything, to my knowledge, that's stopping them from doing so, aside from "if Iowa isn't then we're not".

I would think ISU would be petty enough to think bringing UNI and Drake back on the schedule would be another way for Pollard to try to get one up on Iowa........

Perhaps I give the Cyclones too much credit?

i didn’t realize UNI had the ability to meet with basketball officials before the game and force them to screw over the visiting team. UNI must have deep pockets to get the officials to agree to it. Considering on of the refs has done multiple final fours.

I guess the other thing could be Fran is a hothead with a long track record of acting like a horses ass at times.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

i didn’t realize UNI had the ability to meet with basketball officials before the game and force them to screw over the visiting team. (Well, Iowa specifically......) UNI must have deep pockets to get the officials to agree to it. (Or just have somebody with a connection with UNI ref the game....) Considering on of the refs has done multiple final fours.

I guess the other thing could be Fran is a hothead with a long track record of acting like a horses ass at times.

2012 called and wants you to pay it a visit.....

I strongly recommend against it though, because f*** that athletic calendar year. I don't even think we played football that year, as far as I can recall.......

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

In what world is playing @ #139 Drake have upside? It's a Quad 3 game and Quad 3/4 should only ever be home games vs. OOC cupcakes and bad conference teams you have no choice in playing.

And just last year UNI was similarly a Quad 3 game if we played on the road. It's just not worth it to play a low ranked team on the road when it does nothing to help your season/program. Excitement for UNI or Drake doesn't do anything for Iowa basketball, no cares about the "excitement" for the state.

Playing Drake is better than playing a NEC team or a Utah Valley State or a Jacksonville State. And I don't think we need to have a conversation about how playing UNI is better than these teams as well..........

As far as the fear of losing to them, well......that's the risk with any game we play. Maybe don't lose? That's an idea.

Don't lose to a UN-Omaha at home. Should we only schedule these Quad 3 and 4 cupcake games if we know without a doubt that Iowa is going to win?

In a perfect world, we would only schedule Quad 1 and 2 games, but obviously all schedules are not equal.

If anything, these games against UNI and Drake force Iowa to stay on guard each game and each week rather than lose focus after shellacking SIU-Edwardsville............

 

[anon_2zMXH429BhxV1Npk]

Playing Drake is better than playing a NEC team or a Utah Valley State or a Jacksonville State. And I don't think we need to have a conversation about how playing UNI is better than these teams as well..........

As far as the fear of losing to them, well......that's the risk with any game we play. Maybe don't lose? That's an idea.

Don't lose to a UN-Omaha at home. Should we only schedule these Quad 3 and 4 cupcake games if we know without a doubt that Iowa is going to win?

In a perfect world, we would only schedule Quad 1 and 2 games, but obviously all schedules are not equal.

If anything, these games against UNI and Drake force Iowa to stay on guard each game and each week rather than lose focus after shellacking SIU-Edwardsville............

The difference is all those Quad 3/4 games are at home. My point was playing AT UNI or Drake was a Quad 3 game at best in some years.

I'm not saying we should only schedule games we should win, but rather if we're going to schedule an away game make it a game that actually benefits us in the long run both for the resume and competition. Sure UNI is usually a good team but the last 3 years UNI's records are: 16-18, 16-16, 14-16. Why would we want to play an away game at a .500 at best team? Absolute best case scenario is playing them a season like 2015 where they go 31-4.

Sure, replace Kennesaw St. with UNI at home, I'd be all for it. The problem is UNI won't do it without a return game and a return game isn't worth it at all when Iowa can schedule more beneficial away/neutral site games.

 

[littlez]

Obviously the neutral site games, in particular for Power 5 teams has really grown over the last 5-6 years. This year we got a nice boost w/how good SDSU is, but it's something we probably didn't know going into the season. I'd like to know what it costs to go to Vegas, don't think there's much of a crowd at those games and if it generates revenue or is more to just play other top teams to boost the RPI ? I enjoy the tournaments, but it would be nice to get some home and home against some Power 5 schools. I'm not bagging on Iowa, as basically none of the Power 5 schools do it anymore. For some teams the first true road game they play is in the conference.

 

[HawkLand]

It’s up to Iowa if this is a good move or not. They played a good schedule this year which makes it fine that they don’t play UNI/Drake. However, more years than not they were scheduling one of the worst non-conference schedules in the nation. If they start doing that again it will annoy me a bit. I would prefer they play as I find it more entertaining. Ultimately though, who gives a crap.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

The difference is all those Quad 3/4 games are at home. My point was playing AT UNI or Drake was a Quad 3 game at best in some years.

I'm not saying we should only schedule games we should win, but rather if we're going to schedule an away game make it a game that actually benefits us in the long run both for the resume and competition. Sure UNI is usually a good team but the last 3 years UNI's records are: 16-18, 16-16, 14-16. Why would we want to play an away game at a .500 at best team? Absolute best case scenario is playing them a season like 2015 where they go 31-4.

Sure, replace Kennesaw St. with UNI at home, I'd be all for it. The problem is UNI won't do it without a return game and a return game isn't worth it at all when Iowa can schedule more beneficial away/neutral site games.

Which is why you go back and read my post about playing Drake and UNI in Des Moines.....

 

[stender72865]

This thread was not a slam solely on Iowa. Iowa State is ducking UNI as well. I think it boils down to an arrogance that both Iowa + Iowa State have in regards to Drake + UNI. You cant convince me that playing a MVC school is worse than playing a FL A&M or Cal Poly. I know, I know, ISU lost to FL A&M, but that's not the point. I didnt even watch that game because of who ISU was playing. If they had played UNI or Drake, I would have watched. I'm not sure of the attendance, but I'm guessing it was less than what it would've been had Drake or UNI come to Hilton. The same could be said for Iowa playing a "Cal Poly".

As for playing a mid major school MVC school on the road, why is that so bad? First of all, playing in a hostile atmosphere helps prepare you for playing on the road in conference play.

ISU is just as guilty as Iowa here. I never liked the Big 4 thing in DSM. I dont see the problem with helping out UNI + Drake by playing there every other year. If you are worried about "Quad 3" or "Quad 4" wins, then you are probably not very good and have bigger issues than what seed you may or may not be in NCAAs.

For example, it's been quite a few years, but ISU's 32-5 season (where they lost to Sparty in Elite Eight) included a loss to Drake in early December.

 

[Bee93]

i didn’t realize UNI had the ability to meet with basketball officials before the game and force them to screw over the visiting team. UNI must have deep pockets to get the officials to agree to it. Considering on of the refs has done multiple final fours.

I guess the other thing could be Fran is a hothead with a long track record of acting like a horses ass at times.

You obviously didn’t see the 2012 game. I’m usually not one to blame officials for a loss, but that game goes down in Hawkeye lore like the name Jim Bain. Re-read your post and realized what you were saying, not UNIs fault the refs were crooked but there it is.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

i didn’t realize UNI had the ability to meet with basketball officials before the game and force them to screw over the visiting team. UNI must have deep pockets to get the officials to agree to it. Considering on of the refs has done multiple final fours.

I guess the other thing could be Fran is a hothead with a long track record of acting like a horses ass at times.

you think Fran won’t go back because of the refs in that game?

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

I think Mike Eads might have been part of that 2012 officiating rape inflicted on Iowa.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Obviously the neutral site games, in particular for Power 5 teams has really grown over the last 5-6 years. This year we got a nice boost w/how good SDSU is, but it's something we probably didn't know going into the season. I'd like to know what it costs to go to Vegas, don't think there's much of a crowd at those games and if it generates revenue or is more to just play other top teams to boost the RPI ? I enjoy the tournaments, but it would be nice to get some home and home against some Power 5 schools. I'm not bagging on Iowa, as basically none of the Power 5 schools do it anymore. For some teams the first true road game they play is in the conference.

Vegas was awesome. Smaller NCAA atmosphere IMO.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

I think Mike Eads might have been part of that 2012 officiating rape inflicted on Iowa.

no. Bo Boroski.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

It’s up to Iowa if this is a good move or not. They played a good schedule this year which makes it fine that they don’t play UNI/Drake. However, more years than not they were scheduling one of the worst non-conference schedules in the nation. If they start doing that again it will annoy me a bit. I would prefer they play as I find it more entertaining. Ultimately though, who gives a crap.

lol, wtf are you talking about? Iowa schedules fine.

 

[ICWestfan]

Eff UNI. They can burn in hell after the crap they pulled vs Iowa. O

 

[littlez]

Wade, the games were very competitive, looked up the box score of the SDSU game and said there were 4800 people there. No idea what it holds. I like those games, and again, most power 5 teams are playing them, My main point was is it a money maker? I have no idea. Just asking maybe for those more in the know. Just don’t likethat basically all the good non con games are on neutral sites and the home games are all against bum teams.

 

[HawkLand]

This is a couple examples of, “LOL, WTF are you talking about. Iowa schedules just fine.”

This is too many patsies in my opinion. As I stated, If we schedule like 16 and 17(below) and are too afraid to play UNI and Drake then I’m annoyed by it. If we schedule like we did the last 2 years then I have no issue with it. These were crazy low ranked non-conf schedules. Not sure where to find the rankings, but they were bad.

I’m sure my formatting will suck as I suck at this.


William JewellW 105–81
Nov 2, 2017*
7:00 pm, BTN+Belmont AbbeyW 96–64
Nov 10, 2017
8:00 pm, BTN+Chicago StateW 95–62 Nov 12, 2017*
3:00 pm, BTN+Alabama State W 92–58
Nov 16, 2017*
7:00 pm, BTN+Grambling StateW 85–74
11:00 amvs. Louisiana L 71–80 Nov 21, 2017*
11:00 amvs.South Dakota State L 72–80 Nov 22, 2017*
11:00 amvs. UAB. W 95–85 Nov 28, 2017*
8:15 pm, ESPN2at Virginia Tech L 55–79 Dec 2, 2017
4:00 pm, BTNPenn StateL 73–77
Dec 4, 2017
7:00 pm, BTNat IndianaL 64–77
Dec 7, 2017*
7:00 pm, ESPN2at Iowa State
Dec 10, 2017*
4:00 pm, BTNSouthernW 91–60
Dec 16, 2017*
1:00 pm, BTNvs. Drake W 90–64
Dec 19, 2017*
8:00 pm, BTNSouthern UtahW 92–67 Dec 22, 2017*
8:00 pm, BTNvs. Colorado
W 80–73 Dec 29, 2017*
7:00 pm, BTN+Northern Illinois


Exhibition
11/04/2016*
7:00 pm Regis W 95–73
Non-conference regular season
11/11/2016*
8:30 pm, BTN+ Kennesaw State W 91–74
11/13/2016*
2:30 pm, BTN+ Savannah State W 116–84
11/17/2016*
8:00 pm, BTN Seton Hall L 83–91
11/20/2016*
4:30 pm, BTN+ Texas–Rio Grande V W 95–67
11/25/2016*
6:00 pm, CBSSN vs. No. 7 Virginia L 41–74
11/26/2016*
3:00pm Memphis L 92–100 3–3

11/29/2016*
8:00 pm, ESPN2 at Notre Dame L 78–92 3–4
12/03/2016*
1:00 pm, BTN+ Omaha L 89–98 3–5
12/05/2016*
6:00 pm, ESPNU Stetson W 95–68 4–5
12/08/2016*
7:00 pm, ESPN2 No. 25 Iowa State W 78–64
12/17/2016*
3:30 pm, ESPN3 vs. N Iowa W 69–46
12/20/2016*
8:00 pm, BTN North Dakota W 84–73
8:00 pm, BTN Delaware State

 

[And1Hawk]

This thread was not a slam solely on Iowa. Iowa State is ducking UNI as well. I think it boils down to an arrogance that both Iowa + Iowa State have in regards to Drake + UNI. You cant convince me that playing a MVC school is worse than playing a FL A&M or Cal Poly. I know, I know, ISU lost to FL A&M, but that's not the point. I didnt even watch that game because of who ISU was playing. If they had played UNI or Drake, I would have watched. I'm not sure of the attendance, but I'm guessing it was less than what it would've been had Drake or UNI come to Hilton. The same could be said for Iowa playing a "Cal Poly".

As for playing a mid major school MVC school on the road, why is that so bad? First of all, playing in a hostile atmosphere helps prepare you for playing on the road in conference play.

ISU is just as guilty as Iowa here. I never liked the Big 4 thing in DSM. I dont see the problem with helping out UNI + Drake by playing there every other year. If you are worried about "Quad 3" or "Quad 4" wins, then you are probably not very good and have bigger issues than what seed you may or may not be in NCAAs.

For example, it's been quite a few years, but ISU's 32-5 season (where they lost to Sparty in Elite Eight) included a loss to Drake in early December.

If Iowa is arrogant maybe it’s because they’ve earned that right to choose their own non-con schedule. If Drake or UNI want to come with a large venue, dollars and a major conference then they’ll earn that right. What I am missing?

Does the U of Iowa exist to completely benefit other non Iowa programs? Is that their sole purpose? When Iowa was struggling mightily under Licklighter where was Drake and UNI ‘helping’ Iowa? I don’t recall any help from either. This argument is always about what Iowa needs to do for everyone else.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Iowa is arrogant because UNI’s AD made a choice to show up Fran in 2011. It hurt UNI a lot more than Iowa in long run.

 

[Run&Blade]

You obviously didn’t see the 2012 game. I’m usually not one to blame officials for a loss, but that game goes down in Hawkeye lore like the name Jim Bain. Re-read your post and realized what you were saying, not UNIs fault the refs were crooked but there it is.

Yes, and the Jim Bain thing is Dumb as hell. There was a foul, Bains only sin was calling it on the wrong guy.

 

[squeezebox]

Iowa is arrogant because UNI’s AD made a choice to show up Fran in 2011. It hurt UNI a lot more than Iowa in long run.

This pissing match is getting old, not having this game hurts the state of Iowa. Generally speaking both ISU and UNI athletic departments are in the red. The pool of money that is utilized to remedy this is from the tax payers within the state. Selling out this game for both schools means something.

 

[MepoDawg#]

This pissing match is getting old, not having this game hurts the state of Iowa. Generally speaking both ISU and UNI athletic departments are in the red. The pool of money that is utilized to remedy this is from the tax payers within the state. Selling out this game for both schools means something.

It’s Iowa’s fault ISU and UNI are in the red?

 

[squeezebox]

It’s Iowa’s fault ISU and UNI are in the red?

Great inference on this one. Did I make that statement? I said it's unfortunate for the entire state, rather than paying Nicholl's state to come in and play a game, upwards of $90,000, that money could be kept in state. Nice reading comprehension though.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Great inference on this one. Did I make that statement? I said it's unfortunate for the entire state, rather than paying Nicholl's state to come in and play a game, upwards of $90,000, that money could be kept in state. Nice reading comprehension though.

Sounds like you're deflecting from admitting that you're trying to say it's Iowa's fault........