Drew Tate wants to be a coach at Iowa....

[Hawkeyestate81]

Good read, he would be a valuable asset in developing QB's and recruiting in places like Texas.

http://www.clintonherald.com/sports...cle_d8f99475-8b23-5833-b48c-6a2929917043.html

 

[Gary-Waterloo]

That is interesting. Didn't Tate kind of throw the coaching staff under the bus in interviews after he graduated about the offense and how they didn't open it up enough in his last few years?

 

[Hawkeyestate81]

That is interesting. Didn't Tate kind of throw the coaching staff under the bus in interviews after he graduated about the offense and how they didn't open it up enough in his last few years?

Yeah, KOK mostly.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Perhaps he would be a good coach. But, I don't buy the theory that good players would make good coaches. Like folks that want BJ Armstrong to coach at Iowa every time there is an opening. I think that teaching skills are far more important than personal athletic ability. I have no idea if Drew Tate would be a good teacher, but given his history of yelling at teammates and throwing KF under the bus, I am skeptical.

I believe that fans often greatly under-appreciate how difficult it is to be a coach in a high level sport.

 

[Hawkeyestate81]

Perhaps he would be a good coach. But, I don't buy the theory that good players would make good coaches. Like folks that want BJ Armstrong to coach at Iowa every time there is an opening. I think that teaching skills are far more important than personal athletic ability. I have no idea if Drew Tate would be a good teacher, but given his history of yelling at teammates and throwing KF under the bus, I am skeptical.

I believe that fans often greatly under-appreciate how difficult it is to be a coach in a high level sport.

I agree it isnt' a shoe in. But, since he wants to volunteer let him do that and see how it goes. Nothing to lose here only a LOT to gain.

 

[2bagger22]

Perhaps he would be a good coach. But, I don't buy the theory that good players would make good coaches. Like folks that want BJ Armstrong to coach at Iowa every time there is an opening.

I believe that fans often greatly under-appreciate how difficult it is to be a coach in a high level sport.

Exactly. Every time a coaching vacancy comes up you hear "such-and-such player would be a GREAT addition to the staff!" despite lacking coaching experience.

 

[MWardT]

Perhaps he would be a good coach. But, I don't buy the theory that good players would make good coaches. Like folks that want BJ Armstrong to coach at Iowa every time there is an opening. I think that teaching skills are far more important than personal athletic ability. I have no idea if Drew Tate would be a good teacher, but given his history of yelling at teammates and throwing KF under the bus, I am skeptical.

I believe that fans often greatly under-appreciate how difficult it is to be a coach in a high level sport.

I agree, but I think there is a difference in being a head coach versus an assistant coach. Anymore, head coaches in college are more like politicians (and motivators) as the face of the program, and the assistants do most of the teaching.

Would Drew Tate make a good head coach with his history of antics? Probably not. But I'm sure he has the knowledge and potentially the teaching skills to have an impact as an assistant.

 

[HawkCapt1912]

Tate would be an interesting coach. He was an "instinctive" player.

He would be a good fit for Beathard's style but probably not as good for Ruddock's style.

 

[trippnschmidt]

Tate would be an interesting coach. He was an "instinctive" player.

He would be a good fit for Beathard's style but probably not as good for Ruddock's style.

Ruddock is no longer on the team.

 

[Keeker16]

Would be shocked if this happened. I remember after a game he responded to a reporters question about the reaction in the huddle when we did not go for it on 4th and short in the exact opposite way that a coach would want his player to. He was being very honest, but it was still information that you would not want to be shared.

And there is still a risk if he was to volunteer. What if he volunteers for a year and then quits and throws the staff under the bus AGAIN?

Decent player, but again I would be shocked if he was on this staff.

 

[ANYCHawk]

Would be shocked if this happened. I remember after a game he responded to a reporters question about the reaction in the huddle when we did not go for it on 4th and short in the exact opposite way that a coach would want his player to. He was being very honest, but it was still information that you would not want to be shared.

And there is still a risk if he was to volunteer. What if he volunteers for a year and then quits and throws the staff under the bus AGAIN?

Decent player, but again I would be shocked if he was on this staff.

People are a lot different at 30 than 21.

 

[HawkCapt1912]

Ruddock is no longer on the team.

Really? No shit. CJ and Jake are/were different styles of QB. Making a comparison between the two, with Tate.

 

[The_Gent]

Yeah, KOK mostly.

He didn't like Ken. He thought he was too conservative.

 

[theIowaHawk]

What the hell is he doing in Clinton?

 

[Hawkeyestate81]

What the hell is he doing in Clinton?

Did you read the article?

 

[theIowaHawk]

Did you read the article?

Yes, says Olin used to be a coach there and was keynoting. Still - what the hell is he doing in Clinton?

 

[theIowaHawk]

Oh, that's right, you are the Clinton defender, I forgot.

 

[Hawkeyestate81]

Oh, that's right, you are the Clinton defender, I forgot.

What? You forget your meds today?

 

[EZ2BJZ]

He's young, ambitious, could attract high-level recruits to come to Iowa, and is willing to start out on a volunteer basis....why not give him a shot?

 

[theIowaHawk]

He's young, ambitious, could attract high-level recruits to come to Iowa, and is willing to start out on a volunteer basis....why not give him a shot?

Is he that young? Can he recruit? Is he actually willing to volunteer? Article made that last part less certain.

 

[icantfindausernamethatisntused]

Is he actually willing to volunteer? Article made that last part less certain.

If you really did read the article, you must not be great at reading.

 

[Hawkeyestate81]

If you really did read the article, you must not be great at reading.

Thought the same thing.

 

[EZ2BJZ]

Is he that young? Can he recruit? Is he actually willing to volunteer? Article made that last part less certain.

He's younger than me, so yes; it's certainly possible he can recruit...doubt it would hurt; and according to the article I read, Tate is quoted as saying he would volunteer. What article did you read?

 

[hawkbleeder]

Will Tate have a little too much "wildcat" in him (as KF has described him as a player in the past) for KF's liking? Will the failed Chuck Long experience (Chuck, another historic Iowa QB of course), who allegedly didn't put in the time satisfactory to KF standards, play a role in KF's mind as to whether to bring in Tate or not? I think three things: 1) Tate's passion for football; 2) Tate's passion for Iowa and ; 3) Tate being a coach's son will tip the balance in his favor with KF.

 

[iowaqb]

Drew has coaching in his blood. He comes from good people and will take after his dad Dick Olin. He also has genuine love for Kirk and the Hawkeyes

 

[iowaqb]

Yes, says Olin used to be a coach there and was keynoting. Still - what the hell is he doing in Clinton?

All good people come through Clinton at some point in their lives

 

[The Sleeping Dog]

I'll bet he would have some pretty clever ideas. Coaching is incredibly difficult at any level beyond youth sports.

 

[Senor Martinez]

He didn't like Ken. He thought he was too conservative.

I remember that. Would be interesting to hear his thoughts on Greg Davis.

 

[NevadaHawk]

If Drew is really serious about this, then I would like to see KF give him a shot and see how it goes. You never know he might turn out to be a good coach.

 

[OldTownPepe]

Tate was coached by his stepfather Dick Olin at Robert E. Lee High School in Baytown, Texas. Olin is also the former head coach of the River Kings. That's why he was in Clinton. What's the mystery there? As far as him coaching at Iowa, maybe he should get his feet wet coaching in the CFL or some smaller NCAA program first. It sounds a bit like he wants to relive some of his college glory years at Iowa, but he has no experience and, as many other posters have said, having had some success as a player doesn't mean that translates into any kind of coaching ability.

 

[Roy-munson]

What does it hurt he is willing to be unpaid? He has been playing football since he was like 8 years old. Coaching is in his family. He has 9 years of pro experience as a back up qb.. I think it's worth a try.

 

[KuwaitHawk]

How many volunteer coaches can a team have?

 

[Daggerfoot]

Interesting that he states in the article that he loves the people from Iowa, the fans. Am I misremembering that he said some not so nice things about the fans after he left? Something about the fans not having anything else other than football...I don't remember it clearly, but he said something.

 

[gilligan19]

Will Tate have a little too much "wildcat" in him (as KF has described him as a player in the past) for KF's liking? Will the failed Chuck Long experience (Chuck, another historic Iowa QB of course), who allegedly didn't put in the time satisfactory to KF standards, play a role in KF's mind as to whether to bring in Tate or not? I think three things: 1) Tate's passion for football; 2) Tate's passion for Iowa and ; 3) Tate being a coach's son will tip the balance in his favor with KF.

Long was not a failure at coaching as he started out as the DB coach under Fry, then stayed on under KF, KOK was brought in as the QB/OC and Long looked elsewhere and became a HC out west.

bring Tate in as a GA as Tate has playing experience in the CFL and just might have grown up, let him learn how to coach like Beilema did who went on to be the HC @ Wisconsin and now Arkansas, Woods did and started his coaching career as a LB coach and is now the TE coach.

then you have the Stoops brothers all started out has GA all 3 became HC's with 2 of them still HC's.

x-players need to start some where, the GA is the best place to start, they may not be able to go on the road to recruit but there is no rule stopping them from Texting or Calling during the contact period, Bell the new RC just got promoted from a GA position.

if KF wants him he will give him a shot, nothing says he has to keep him.

 

[SigMaintHawk]

Kelvin Bell's last year as a GA was 2013...He was promoted from the on campus recruiting director position..a position he held for 2 seasons.

 

[cmhawks99]

I'll bet he would have some pretty clever ideas. Coaching is incredibly difficult at any level beyond youth sports.

Thank you for this...this is exactly what is wrong with message boards. I enjoy free dialogue and the sharing of ideas but I'll confess every time I see someone give their opinion on personnel things I cringe. ANY hire, recruit, "talented or untalented" hanger on can absolutely wreck your dichotomy and chemistry. I'm baffled that people have such a hard time understanding that. I'm in sales and when we have salesman and or mechanics pi$% and moaning and getting in "clutch groups" and complaining about ownership, management and customers its a disaster. Sometimes your almostr better firing them. But the flip side of that is, every bad hire or bad recruit surely costs thousands to hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's the short sightedness people tend to have. I know this is probably crappy but I always just assume the people on here complaining about the coaches are likely the ones complaining at work and never happy. And I'll tell you right now, those guys and gals are murderous to the work force.

 

[AirForceChiefO]

Drew was one of the best QB's Iowa has ever had when he wasn't injured. Does not mean he will be a good coach. I remember being upset with Drew for calling out his wide receivers for dropping the ball, for running wrong routes, and for running lazy routes. In retrospect, he had good reason; he had a crap load of prima donnas for wide receivers. Many of them ended up kicked off the team or leaving for academic or other reasons. I think DJK taught Coach a lot about putting up with cancers on the team. Not that I think Drew would be a cancer, I just don't think KF would take a chance on him knowing his combative background.

 

[dbrocket]

I don't seem to recall Kirk ever having a problem with Tate or how vocal he was. Different leaders have different styles. Tate's was in-your-face, when you ****ed up OR kicked ass. I seem to remember Kirk praising that, at the time. And I don't recall him throwing "the fans" under the bus. I've heard him talk about an obsessive subset of fans who corner college kids half their age, but that's different. As for Ken O'Keefe, he's not here.

 

[Rustys Dad]

Watch out ... People may now call for Drew to be our next head coach ... Along with BJ Armstrong.

One never knows if a guy will succeed coaching. Playing is one thing ... Coaching and teaching are another ...

 

[mazda1]

If he has this burning desire to coach for the Hawkeyes and a good relationship with Kirk, I'd think the right thing to do would be to pick up the phone and talk to him. To make a case in the media saying he'd work for nothing doesn't scream he's ready to lead young men to me.

Would he bolt if a CFL team came calling? Would he call out the receivers if coaching the QB's was his job? Most of his success was due to his ability to scramble and make something out of broken plays. I'm not sure that translates into coaching. I'm skeptical.