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Enjoy your cost of living idiots

So rather than countering disinformation with actual facts, your strategy is to counter with even more disinformation.

Not how I would approach it, but you do you.
I didn't do that. People were claiming that inflation was low because of Trump policies are being willfully ignorant. I stated that the only reason prices were so low was because the economy had crashed into a deep recession. Then you and some other dumb ass named Rifler are asking "what recession" the one that "never happened". I provided more information to jog your memories. More willful ignorance.
 
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seems legit GIF
 
You realize Biden kept his tariffs in place? If they are so bad why did they continue? Post the whole story, not just half truths.
Ever own or run a business? If you were a company that was importing goods and/or components from China what would you be doing today?
 
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Biden nearly doubled tariffs on Canadian soft lumber imports less than 3 months ago.
The Commerce Department did that as an annual adjustment of a targeted anti-dumping campaign.

It’s not like when Trump just announced a tariff on Canadian aluminum for no reason and had to drop it after a month.
 


But hey Doritos might be cheaper.
Meh.

Let me know when they start dragging pregnant women and LGBTQ humans out of their homes and throwing them into concentration camps.

Then I'll get up from my chair and do the Nelson haha point and laugh...........

And sit back down chuckling because this is what you all get for taking politics so life-consumingly seriously.

This is your fault as much as it is the people who voted for Trump, and that should piss you off to realize that.

I warned you all months ago. Now you all, like Angel Reese, are gonna learn about actions having consequences. :D
 
I didn't do that. People were claiming that inflation was low because of Trump policies are being willfully ignorant. I stated that the only reason prices were so low was because the economy had crashed into a deep recession. Then you and some other dumb ass named Rifler are asking "what recession" the one that "never happened". I provided more information to jog your memories. More willful ignorance.
You called it a “great recession” and implied that it was caused by Trump’s economic policies.

The fact is the economy ground to a halt almost overnight in mid-March due to COVID lockdowns. After Memorial Day most businesses had reopened and the Q3 GDP grew by 35.2%.

That’s not a “great recession” caused by fiscal policies. That’s a temporary shutdown caused by the worst global pandemic in over a century.
 
You called it a “great recession” and implied that it was caused by Trump’s economic policies.

The fact is the economy ground to a halt almost overnight in mid-March due to COVID lockdowns. After Memorial Day most businesses had reopened and the Q3 GDP grew by 35.2%.

That’s not a “great recession” caused by fiscal policies. That’s a temporary shutdown caused by the worst global pandemic in over a century.
No. I can't help it if you're reading what isn't there. Do you think that gas prices went down to historically low levels in 2020 because of Trump's policies? They didn't.

You want lower overall prices today? It will require an equally disruptive event. You want to complain about inflation 2 years ago? Trump’s covid related fiscal stimulus had at least as much to do with that as anything that came while or after he was president. Facts.
 
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The massive tariff proposal won't work. Punitive tariffs are always a bad idea. I hope Vance can inject some financial sense into Trump.
I hope you are correct. Don't forget he thought insane asylums and immigrants applying for visas through asylum were the same thing. We aren't talking about a bright man so I have my doubts about not going through with the tariffs.
 
No. I can't help it if you're reading what isn't there. Do you think that gas prices went down to historically low levels in 2020 because of Trump's policies? They didn't.

You want lower overall prices today? It will require an equally disruptive event. You want to complain about inflation 2 years ago? Trump’s covid related fiscal stimulus had at least as much to do with that as anything that came while or after he was president. Facts.
You have now brought up gas prices twice, which is two times more than everyone else in this thread combined. But since you keep asking, my response is the same as it has been for 4 years. Gas prices were low in 2020 due to the roughly 14% drop in demand caused by COVID lockdowns and a sudden increase in the number of people working from home.
 
The massive tariff proposal won't work. Punitive tariffs are always a bad idea. I hope Vance can inject some financial sense into Trump.
I don’t think it’s going to happen- but it will likely get more manufacturing here and in other “friendlier” countries who are anxious to expand trade with us. Not a bad idea.
 
It didn't do any good and the tariffs where not across the board as he is proposing now.

If they didn't do any good, why are the majority of them still in place? Heck, not only are most still in place but some have even been added or increased.

With that said, I really hope this is just a strong arm tactic being used by Trump.
 
If they didn't do any good, why are the majority of them still in place? Heck, not only are most still in place but some have even been added or increased.

With that said, I really hope this is just a strong arm tactic being used by Trump.

Wouldn't an across the board tariff applied to Canada or Mexico be a violation of the USMCA treaty that Trump himself negotiated and signed?
 
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Wouldn't an across the board tariff applied to Canada or Mexico be a violation of the USMCA treaty that Trump himself negotiated and signed?

I believe so. It would be a big mistake to do across the board tariffs with Mexico and Canada. China however...
 
Business owner could possibly have contracts he has to fulfill at a certain price for a period of time so has to buy as much as possible at lower pricing to be able to do that. Or he is doing it to increase his profitability by buying at the lower cost then selling at a higher price due to the increase input costs by his competition who will be forced to raise prices. Last, he could just be pissed off that his employees are dumbasses and voted for Trump after telling them the negative consequences of helping get Trump elected and not paying them a bonus due to the tariff issue.
 
I don't know how he walks this promise back. It was one of the pillars of his campaign. He was going to make foreign countries pay up. It's also a promise he can easily fulfill stroke of a pen wise. It really is a promise he could enact almost instantly if he wants.
I do expect him to implement at least some tariffs, but this may wind up being the 2024 version of “Mexico will pay for the wall”.

If you stack campaign promises, things could really get bleak. Tariffs are specifically designed to raise prices - you’re making imports more expensive by design either to punish or to protect American businesses from being undercut by foreign competitors. Either way, you’re raising prices for consumers. I’m not a tariff fan generally, but I can see limited, specific uses, but certainly nothing broad based or to the levels he talked about.

Then you stack on the mass deportations he’s promised regularly, including “super charged denaturalization processes” and you’re removing a lot of cheap labor, which will lead to business failures and rising prices as businesses either will not be able to get enough labor to survive, will have to pay more for the labor they need to survive or increase technical automation to replace cheap workers, which is not cheap.
 
Covid opened my eyes to how reliant we are on foreign countries for basic essentials; would be nice to bring some of that manufacturing of those back here. Seems tariffs could help with that.
They can have benefits in certain circumstances and can provide some protections for American businesses, but no doubt they will increase the prices on consumers. A tariff literally has one job.
 
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Farmers have received government subsidies since the 1930's.
Bailout , not subsidies.
You asked
Farmers have received government subsidies since the 1930's.
Bailout, not subsidies:
You asked what was the effect of tariffs. Asked and answered but in case you want more information.
Trump administration farmer bailouts are a series of United States bailout programs introduced during the first presidency of Donald Trump as a consequence of his "America First" economic policyto help US farmers suffering due to the US-China trade war and trade disputes with European Union, Japan, Canada, Mexico, and others. China and respectively European reconcilable tariffs imposed on peanut butter, soybeans, orange juice, and other agriculture products had hit hard, especially swing states, such as Iowa, Ohio, and Wisconsin.[1]
 
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Bailout , not subsidies.
You asked

Bailout, not subsidies:
You asked what was the effect of tariffs. Asked and answered but in case you want more information.
Trump administration farmer bailouts are a series of United States bailout programs introduced during the first presidency of Donald Trump as a consequence of his "America First" economic policyto help US farmers suffering due to the US-China trade war and trade disputes with European Union, Japan, Canada, Mexico, and others. China and respectively European reconcilable tariffs imposed on peanut butter, soybeans, orange juice, and other agriculture products had hit hard, especially swing states, such as Iowa, Ohio, and Wisconsin.[1]

Thanks Hawks, I don't think I asked what the effect of tariffs were, but maybe I did post that somewhere. Either way, always good to get things clarified.
 
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Must be what the 13 million people that didn’t vote for Harris but did vote for Biden wanted.
 
Don’t forget 60% on all things made in China.

Now I agree with finance above, this was a bullshit campaign promise that is impossible to implement. But he made the promise specifically because he knew people would think this is a good thing for them - when it is an awful thing for them. He manipulates people who don’t know better and they love him for it.

It is fascinating how he has managed to dupe millions of people time and again.
straight up .....
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