5'8" 200 lbs and quick
Not since Adam Robinson have we had a reliable scat back.
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Not since Adam Robinson have we had a reliable scat back.
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He gets shorter and heavier everytime I hear about him.Originally posted by QChawks:
5'8" 200 lbs and quick
Not since Adam Robinson have we had a reliable scat back.
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For someone who tries to preach facts you sure suck at them. Iowa measures and weighs recruits on visits. The Iowa signing day release lists him at 5'9" 195 LBs. Not much difference but let's be factual. Also, his high school coach said he has ran. 10.9 100 meters.Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
not with these people if the current player does not meet their expectations its throw them under the bus and label them as FAILURES.
up dated weight and height as confirmed by his HS coach 5'10 200 lbs runs a 4.4 40 and a 11.1 100 meter dash. timed at a track meet.
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I do not consider Robinson as a scat back. Not at all.
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Lot more to be a good RB beside all the athletic stats provided. Can he block, does he fumble, does he read blocks can he find the hole, can he take a hit, does he have a high football IQ. It's kind of hard to compare him to anybody until he actually gets on the field and plays.Originally posted by normgranger:
Had a lot of free time today so I compared the film of Higdon and Graham . They are both around 5'9" and 190 to 195 Lbs.. Higdon's coach says he runs 4.5 and Graham's coach says he is legit 4.4. They both seem to catch the ball well and both appear to hit the hole quickly and have good vision. Both have the spin move down and have that little hop left or right and accelerate quickly after a cut, hop, or spin back to full speed. Higdon does seem to be a bit stronger but Graham does appear to have a bit more open field speed, and we do have Doyle. I guess I really don't think the Hawks could have gone wrong with either player. We will see !!
Weird. Just a couple of days ago when people were reaping it Higdon was an all B10 back that had interest from Michigan, Notre Dame, and Iowa. He played against top notch big school Florida competition. I personally wasn't that impressed with his highlights because he was always running east-west and didn't show much break away speed. That was because of the high level competition it was said.Originally posted by ehenningsen:
Graham is an upgrade over higdon. You guys got a complete back. His film, although short, is unreal.
Very good get
Wasn't comparing either of the players to college players. Compared film of two high school players to each other with film provided. I think I addressed the finding the hole comment you made when I said " Both appear to hit the hole quickly" and your " does he read blocks" with " and have good vision"...JMO , but I would assume someone with close to 2,400 yards as a Jr. and close to 2,000 yards as a senior probably has a pretty good " Football !Q"...They both took some hits....Have no clue if they have a problem fumbling or how well they block. It's a highlite tape. If I'm not mistaken they were both on football fields and playing football. Never said either was going to be great " We will see" I believe is what I ended my post with. I'll try to clean my future posts up a bit and be more in line with someone of your football knowledge. Thanks for exposing my shortcomings.Originally posted by grosie#2:
Lot more to be a good RB beside all the athletic stats provided. Can he block, does he fumble, does he read blocks can he find the hole, can he take a hit, does he have a high football IQ. It's kind of hard to compare him to anybody until he actually gets on the field and plays.Originally posted by normgranger:
Had a lot of free time today so I compared the film of Higdon and Graham . They are both around 5'9" and 190 to 195 Lbs.. Higdon's coach says he runs 4.5 and Graham's coach says he is legit 4.4. They both seem to catch the ball well and both appear to hit the hole quickly and have good vision. Both have the spin move down and have that little hop left or right and accelerate quickly after a cut, hop, or spin back to full speed. Higdon does seem to be a bit stronger but Graham does appear to have a bit more open field speed, and we do have Doyle. I guess I really don't think the Hawks could have gone wrong with either player. We will see !!
get a clue please. He qualified within the last month. The 4.7 time was from the summer after his freshman yearOriginally posted by Sandow:
The guy does not run a 4.4 40. He runs in the 4.7 range. It looks like he will be lucky to even make it on campus with his grades and ACT score. This staff did not find some hidden gem as many want to believe, period.
He is qualified now but has little room for error this last semester so I guess they want him to retake it just in case.Originally posted by Sandow:
The guy does not run a 4.4 40. He runs in the 4.7 range. It looks like he will be lucky to even make it on campus with his grades and ACT score. This staff did not find some hidden gem as many want to believe, period.
Not finding that info anywhere. Can you give me a link or what site you are getting the info from ? Just curious why there is confusion on Graham ?Originally posted by SWIowahawks:
Information is coming from mods, coaches, and tweets from media members.
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I guess that's the difference, I'll would rather judge any new recruit on a college football field. Too many variables in HS. It's hard compare one against the other when HS competition may not be near the same. Playing HS football and playing college is 2 different animals. What may of look good in HS may not even get him on the field in college. I will look forward to u improving your short comings.Originally posted by normgranger:
Wasn't comparing either of the players to college players. Compared film of two high school players to each other with film provided. I think I addressed the finding the hole comment you made when I said " Both appear to hit the hole quickly" and your " does he read blocks" with " and have good vision"...JMO , but I would assume someone with close to 2,400 yards as a Jr. and close to 2,000 yards as a senior probably has a pretty good " Football !Q"...They both took some hits....Have no clue if they have a problem fumbling or how well they block. It's a highlite tape. If I'm not mistaken they were both on football fields and playing football. Never said either was going to be great " We will see" I believe is what I ended my post with. I'll try to clean my future posts up a bit and be more in line with someone of your football knowledge. Thanks for exposing my shortcomings.Originally posted by grosie#2:
Lot more to be a good RB beside all the athletic stats provided. Can he block, does he fumble, does he read blocks can he find the hole, can he take a hit, does he have a high football IQ. It's kind of hard to compare him to anybody until he actually gets on the field and plays.Originally posted by normgranger:
Had a lot of free time today so I compared the film of Higdon and Graham . They are both around 5'9" and 190 to 195 Lbs.. Higdon's coach says he runs 4.5 and Graham's coach says he is legit 4.4. They both seem to catch the ball well and both appear to hit the hole quickly and have good vision. Both have the spin move down and have that little hop left or right and accelerate quickly after a cut, hop, or spin back to full speed. Higdon does seem to be a bit stronger but Graham does appear to have a bit more open field speed, and we do have Doyle. I guess I really don't think the Hawks could have gone wrong with either player. We will see !!
Freddy was committed to MI, but had to go to a prep school. When he got out they were no longer interested.Originally posted by iowalaw:
Freddy Russell was a pretty highly rated recruit, from what I can recall. I believe he picked us over Michigan. Graham...well, I'm not sure he picked us over anyone. I think he's also considerably bigger than Fred.
Well that kind of clears things up on that issue but someone will need to beat that clarification into Kilroy's head because it will be included in just about every post concerning Graham for the next few years.Originally posted by Stemar:
Graham may turn out to be very good, but he was not all state regardless of class for the whole state. There are seven classes for the AHSAA which each had an all state first and second team for each class. There is also the AISA which is the Alabama Independent Schools Association. They have three divisions which they put together for one class for all state purposes. Graham plays for Autauga Acad which plays in the AISA. For the AISA he made All State regardless of division, but this is only the Independent and Private schools in the AISA. I saw the AL.com Super All State Team and they list three team backs and two first team athletes who are backs. They also five HM backs and athletes. Graham is not among them. I can see how this would be a bit confusing.
Too late. Kilroy is gonna roll with the "he's an all state back,regardless of class", FOREVER.Originally posted by nu2u:
Well that kind of clears things up on that issue but someone will need to beat that clarification into Kilroy's head because it will be included in just about every post concerning Graham for the next few years.Originally posted by Stemar:
Graham may turn out to be very good, but he was not all state regardless of class for the whole state. There are seven classes for the AHSAA which each had an all state first and second team for each class. There is also the AISA which is the Alabama Independent Schools Association. They have three divisions which they put together for one class for all state purposes. Graham plays for Autauga Acad which plays in the AISA. For the AISA he made All State regardless of division, but this is only the Independent and Private schools in the AISA. I saw the AL.com Super All State Team and they list three team backs and two first team athletes who are backs. They also five HM backs and athletes. Graham is not among them. I can see how this would be a bit confusing.
Thank you for the info. Great post....Originally posted by Stemar:
Graham may turn out to be very good, but he was not all state regardless of class for the whole state. There are seven classes for the AHSAA which each had an all state first and second team for each class. There is also the AISA which is the Alabama Independent Schools Association. They have three divisions which they put together for one class for all state purposes. Graham plays for Autauga Acad which plays in the AISA. For the AISA he made All State regardless of division, but this is only the Independent and Private schools in the AISA. I saw the AL.com Super All State Team and they list three team backs and two first team athletes who are backs. They also five HM backs and athletes. Graham is not among them. I can see how this would be a bit confusing.
The video proves he has speed compared to his competition. I have no idea if that will be true playing in the Big Ten.Originally posted by HoundedHawk:
The video proves he has some speed.
However, what I liked best was his ability to stay on his feet at speed with collisions. He doesn't go down easily.
i realize that you're just trolling and i'm taking the bait, but.... you're damn right we are going to defend the kid. they are kids that want to be hawkeyes, and in my book that is more than enough to warrant my defense. i'm not going to comment on the coaches deserving the same, but the kids, especially kids that just signed their LOI, don't need to hear people like you telling them how stupid they are and how their impact will amount to nothing. go piss up a flag pole.Originally posted by bhawk24bob:
Matt, do you ever wonder during games why the opponent has more talent at almost every other position than Iowa? It's because Iowa consistently reaches with its recruiting and gives out scholarships to players like Graham. Then the mouthbreathers in the Iowa fanbase actually defend these players that our dimwit coaching staff brought in
....I don't think that's right at allOriginally posted by Hawkeye2222:
some don't even understand distances, 100 meters = 110 yards so a 4.4 or 4.5 is a very realistic time for the 40 yard dash
and just when Ithink you posters can't get any more stupid than you already are some come in and shows just how stupid some of you
these are the 4* RB's signed since
2009 4* Wegher left after his FR year because he wanted to move into a apartment to live with his Pregnant GF as the U of I has a rule about athletes living in the dorm till after their SO season, the Sally Mason affect
2010 4* Coker ran off by Mason and left at that time in 11th place All time for IA RB's with a little over 2000 yards Sally Mason strikes again
2012 4* Garmon left after his 1st semester after being the 2nd stringer and now is in jail.
stop with the stupid accusations