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Eric Graham next Fred Russell?

Don't you think Wadley could be a pretty good 'scat' back? He's as quick as russell, really good top end speed and has spin moves that I don't think we've ever seen at Iowa. I think he just needs to pick his spots a little better (stay a little more under control), work on his ball security, and he may need to 'mature' a little bit. I think he has a huge upside!
The thing that impressed me the most in Graham's film was his quick acceleration and how he was able to 'jump' and hurdle people without losing his stride or speed.
 
not with these people if the current player does not meet their expectations its throw them under the bus and label them as FAILURES.

up dated weight and height as confirmed by his HS coach 5'10 200 lbs runs a 4.4 40 and a 11.1 100 meter dash. timed at a track meet.
 
Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:

not with these people if the current player does not meet their expectations its throw them under the bus and label them as FAILURES.

up dated weight and height as confirmed by his HS coach 5'10 200 lbs runs a 4.4 40 and a 11.1 100 meter dash. timed at a track meet.
For someone who tries to preach facts you sure suck at them. Iowa measures and weighs recruits on visits. The Iowa signing day release lists him at 5'9" 195 LBs. Not much difference but let's be factual. Also, his high school coach said he has ran. 10.9 100 meters.
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What will make any back the "next Fred Russell" will be the ability to run effectively in a zone blocking scheme, particularly finding the cut-back lanes - which I can't think of anyone doing as well as Freddie. By the time Freddie was a senior he had a body like a brick sh!t house, which it looks like Graham already has. Freddie and Graham both have a "Michigan connection"......so who knows :)
 
Had a lot of free time today so I compared the film of Higdon and Graham . They are both around 5'9" and 190 to 195 Lbs.. Higdon's coach says he runs 4.5 and Graham's coach says he is legit 4.4. They both seem to catch the ball well and both appear to hit the hole quickly and have good vision. Both have the spin move down and have that little hop left or right and accelerate quickly after a cut, hop, or spin back to full speed. Higdon does seem to be a bit stronger but Graham does appear to have a bit more open field speed, and we do have Doyle. I guess I really don't think the Hawks could have gone wrong with either player. We will see !!
 
Graham is an upgrade over higdon. You guys got a complete back. His film, although short, is unreal.

Very good get
 
Originally posted by normgranger:
Had a lot of free time today so I compared the film of Higdon and Graham . They are both around 5'9" and 190 to 195 Lbs.. Higdon's coach says he runs 4.5 and Graham's coach says he is legit 4.4. They both seem to catch the ball well and both appear to hit the hole quickly and have good vision. Both have the spin move down and have that little hop left or right and accelerate quickly after a cut, hop, or spin back to full speed. Higdon does seem to be a bit stronger but Graham does appear to have a bit more open field speed, and we do have Doyle. I guess I really don't think the Hawks could have gone wrong with either player. We will see !!
Lot more to be a good RB beside all the athletic stats provided. Can he block, does he fumble, does he read blocks can he find the hole, can he take a hit, does he have a high football IQ. It's kind of hard to compare him to anybody until he actually gets on the field and plays.
 
Originally posted by ehenningsen:
Graham is an upgrade over higdon. You guys got a complete back. His film, although short, is unreal.

Very good get
Weird. Just a couple of days ago when people were reaping it Higdon was an all B10 back that had interest from Michigan, Notre Dame, and Iowa. He played against top notch big school Florida competition. I personally wasn't that impressed with his highlights because he was always running east-west and didn't show much break away speed. That was because of the high level competition it was said.

Now we have a kid that had his recruiting profile created by our moderators today. Crazy there was nothing in the system for him. His height went from 6'2 in a HUDL clip to 6'1 in his rivals profile to 5'9 from his coaches. Last year at the state track meet he ran placed fourth running a 11.41 100. That isn't in line with a 4.41 40 time. That is more in the 4.7-4.8 range. At an Atlanta testing camp his sophomore year a 40 was recorded at 4.73.

The other strange and most concerning news in my opinion is that he went from being fully qualified a month ago to Rob Howe's report that he is taking his ACT again.

In the end and in regards to the "next Fred Russell". That is not a close comparison. Fred Russell was a UM commit before prep school and had an electronically time sub 4.4.
 
Originally posted by grosie#2:
Originally posted by normgranger:
Had a lot of free time today so I compared the film of Higdon and Graham . They are both around 5'9" and 190 to 195 Lbs.. Higdon's coach says he runs 4.5 and Graham's coach says he is legit 4.4. They both seem to catch the ball well and both appear to hit the hole quickly and have good vision. Both have the spin move down and have that little hop left or right and accelerate quickly after a cut, hop, or spin back to full speed. Higdon does seem to be a bit stronger but Graham does appear to have a bit more open field speed, and we do have Doyle. I guess I really don't think the Hawks could have gone wrong with either player. We will see !!
Lot more to be a good RB beside all the athletic stats provided. Can he block, does he fumble, does he read blocks can he find the hole, can he take a hit, does he have a high football IQ. It's kind of hard to compare him to anybody until he actually gets on the field and plays.
Wasn't comparing either of the players to college players. Compared film of two high school players to each other with film provided. I think I addressed the finding the hole comment you made when I said " Both appear to hit the hole quickly" and your " does he read blocks" with " and have good vision"...JMO , but I would assume someone with close to 2,400 yards as a Jr. and close to 2,000 yards as a senior probably has a pretty good " Football !Q"...They both took some hits....Have no clue if they have a problem fumbling or how well they block. It's a highlite tape. If I'm not mistaken they were both on football fields and playing football. Never said either was going to be great " We will see" I believe is what I ended my post with. I'll try to clean my future posts up a bit and be more in line with someone of your football knowledge. Thanks for exposing my shortcomings.
 
The guy does not run a 4.4 40. He runs in the 4.7 range. It looks like he will be lucky to even make it on campus with his grades and ACT score. This staff did not find some hidden gem as many want to believe, period.
 
Originally posted by Sandow:
The guy does not run a 4.4 40. He runs in the 4.7 range. It looks like he will be lucky to even make it on campus with his grades and ACT score. This staff did not find some hidden gem as many want to believe, period.
get a clue please. He qualified within the last month. The 4.7 time was from the summer after his freshman year
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Originally posted by Sandow:
The guy does not run a 4.4 40. He runs in the 4.7 range. It looks like he will be lucky to even make it on campus with his grades and ACT score. This staff did not find some hidden gem as many want to believe, period.
He is qualified now but has little room for error this last semester so I guess they want him to retake it just in case.
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Who wants him to retake the test ? Where is all this info coming from ? Too much unsubstantiated info makes it on here. dexhwk is absolutely right about him qualifying and he carries a 3.0 GPA per his coach. As far as the 4.7 40 time dexhwk is also right about that being before his soph year . His coach says he runs a sub 10.9 100 meter dash which does not translate into a 4.7 40 . If you watched his film it is obvious he is fast. Is he a burner ? We will see . Like I said, I don't think the Hawks could go wrong with Graham or Higdon . Fred Russell ? Pretty BIG SHOES to fill there .
 
Originally posted by SWIowahawks:
Information is coming from mods, coaches, and tweets from media members.
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Not finding that info anywhere. Can you give me a link or what site you are getting the info from ? Just curious why there is confusion on Graham ?
 
Howe has a interview with Grahamm's coach and all the info is there on TOS, also Grahamm is a 1ST Team All State rguardless of class in Alabama, and it his coach who states the reason why he is retaking the ACT and in FACT did just get that qualfying Test score, then it is explained that teams like ND, Kentucky. Duke and Vanderbitl called the IA coaches to see what the IA coaches were going to do.

the kid is going to be a nurse, which tells me he is no dummy, just a kid that struggle with taking Tests, like that never happened, I knew kids in my class that were braniacs in the class room but sucked at taking tests. the opposite was true as well there were thosde that sucked in the class room but were brainiacs at tests go figure,

as for his heights an weight we will have till the summer roster is released

for example Rivals listed Parker @ 510 180 but when the roster was released he shrunk to 5'8 180.. right now Graham is listed anywhere from 5'9 195 to 6'1 210 lbs the one thing that is consistant is that he has 4.4 40 time by all the sites,

and its funny how you people were so excited about Higdon having a 4.45 40 time and never thought twice about it.. the biggest Fact that can't be disputed is that Grahamm is a 1st Team All State in Alabama reguardless of Class

looking at the two videos I like Grahamm better and it has nothing to do with Grahamm choosing IA, I would have been very happy with Higdon but I just like Grahamm better.

the one thing in the video that was missing was neither one showed their ability to block, but blocking can be taught. agility and running ability CANNOT and those 2 have it,
 
Kilroy you're an idiot. 5'9" 195 is released by the coaches. Not by sites. So it's accurate. That is more official than sights ranging in different heights. Also, I don't know how you keep being able I post here, the info above is from this site as well but you continue to say TOS.
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Originally posted by normgranger:



Originally posted by grosie#2:


Originally posted by normgranger:
Had a lot of free time today so I compared the film of Higdon and Graham . They are both around 5'9" and 190 to 195 Lbs.. Higdon's coach says he runs 4.5 and Graham's coach says he is legit 4.4. They both seem to catch the ball well and both appear to hit the hole quickly and have good vision. Both have the spin move down and have that little hop left or right and accelerate quickly after a cut, hop, or spin back to full speed. Higdon does seem to be a bit stronger but Graham does appear to have a bit more open field speed, and we do have Doyle. I guess I really don't think the Hawks could have gone wrong with either player. We will see !!
Lot more to be a good RB beside all the athletic stats provided. Can he block, does he fumble, does he read blocks can he find the hole, can he take a hit, does he have a high football IQ. It's kind of hard to compare him to anybody until he actually gets on the field and plays.
Wasn't comparing either of the players to college players. Compared film of two high school players to each other with film provided. I think I addressed the finding the hole comment you made when I said " Both appear to hit the hole quickly" and your " does he read blocks" with " and have good vision"...JMO , but I would assume someone with close to 2,400 yards as a Jr. and close to 2,000 yards as a senior probably has a pretty good " Football !Q"...They both took some hits....Have no clue if they have a problem fumbling or how well they block. It's a highlite tape. If I'm not mistaken they were both on football fields and playing football. Never said either was going to be great " We will see" I believe is what I ended my post with. I'll try to clean my future posts up a bit and be more in line with someone of your football knowledge. Thanks for exposing my shortcomings.
I guess that's the difference, I'll would rather judge any new recruit on a college football field. Too many variables in HS. It's hard compare one against the other when HS competition may not be near the same. Playing HS football and playing college is 2 different animals. What may of look good in HS may not even get him on the field in college. I will look forward to u improving your short comings.
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Freddy Russell was a pretty highly rated recruit, from what I can recall. I believe he picked us over Michigan. Graham...well, I'm not sure he picked us over anyone. I think he's also considerably bigger than Fred.
 
The video proves he has some speed.

However, what I liked best was his ability to stay on his feet at speed with collisions. He doesn't go down easily.
 
Originally posted by iowalaw:
Freddy Russell was a pretty highly rated recruit, from what I can recall. I believe he picked us over Michigan. Graham...well, I'm not sure he picked us over anyone. I think he's also considerably bigger than Fred.
Freddy was committed to MI, but had to go to a prep school. When he got out they were no longer interested.
 
Graham may turn out to be very good, but he was not all state regardless of class for the whole state. There are seven classes for the AHSAA which each had an all state first and second team for each class. There is also the AISA which is the Alabama Independent Schools Association. They have three divisions which they put together for one class for all state purposes. Graham plays for Autauga Acad which plays in the AISA. For the AISA he made All State regardless of division, but this is only the Independent and Private schools in the AISA. I saw the AL.com Super All State Team and they list three team backs and two first team athletes who are backs. They also five HM backs and athletes. Graham is not among them. I can see how this would be a bit confusing.
 
Originally posted by Stemar:

Graham may turn out to be very good, but he was not all state regardless of class for the whole state. There are seven classes for the AHSAA which each had an all state first and second team for each class. There is also the AISA which is the Alabama Independent Schools Association. They have three divisions which they put together for one class for all state purposes. Graham plays for Autauga Acad which plays in the AISA. For the AISA he made All State regardless of division, but this is only the Independent and Private schools in the AISA. I saw the AL.com Super All State Team and they list three team backs and two first team athletes who are backs. They also five HM backs and athletes. Graham is not among them. I can see how this would be a bit confusing.
Well that kind of clears things up on that issue but someone will need to beat that clarification into Kilroy's head because it will be included in just about every post concerning Graham for the next few years.
 
Originally posted by nu2u:
Originally posted by Stemar:

Graham may turn out to be very good, but he was not all state regardless of class for the whole state. There are seven classes for the AHSAA which each had an all state first and second team for each class. There is also the AISA which is the Alabama Independent Schools Association. They have three divisions which they put together for one class for all state purposes. Graham plays for Autauga Acad which plays in the AISA. For the AISA he made All State regardless of division, but this is only the Independent and Private schools in the AISA. I saw the AL.com Super All State Team and they list three team backs and two first team athletes who are backs. They also five HM backs and athletes. Graham is not among them. I can see how this would be a bit confusing.
Well that kind of clears things up on that issue but someone will need to beat that clarification into Kilroy's head because it will be included in just about every post concerning Graham for the next few years.
Too late. Kilroy is gonna roll with the "he's an all state back,regardless of class", FOREVER.
 
Originally posted by Stemar:

Graham may turn out to be very good, but he was not all state regardless of class for the whole state. There are seven classes for the AHSAA which each had an all state first and second team for each class. There is also the AISA which is the Alabama Independent Schools Association. They have three divisions which they put together for one class for all state purposes. Graham plays for Autauga Acad which plays in the AISA. For the AISA he made All State regardless of division, but this is only the Independent and Private schools in the AISA. I saw the AL.com Super All State Team and they list three team backs and two first team athletes who are backs. They also five HM backs and athletes. Graham is not among them. I can see how this would be a bit confusing.
Thank you for the info. Great post....
 
The conversation should be getting him qualified. This is the step needed to get him on campus. Then and only then we can see him showcase his ability. Remember Markel Smith. Let's not crown him until he is in line for the crown.
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What I think is puzzling in how rivals rates him a 5.3 when his film is every bit as good as Higdon's and he is a 5.7. Not saying Graham is 5.7 but no way he is a 5.3 either. Is this just a default rating??
 
Originally posted by HoundedHawk:
The video proves he has some speed.

However, what I liked best was his ability to stay on his feet at speed with collisions. He doesn't go down easily.
The video proves he has speed compared to his competition. I have no idea if that will be true playing in the Big Ten.
 
The excitement over this kid's commitment is proof that this fanbase deserves KF and everything that comes with it

I'll give you guys a hint about what he will amount to.......nothing. No other school in the country wanted him. If using a fullback at rb for 3 years has told us anything, it's that this coaching staff does not know how to evaluate talent at the rb position. To top it off, he's too stupid to take tests - so don't expect him to stick around too long
 
I think I read somewhere that Higdon plays in the largest/toughest class in Florida, while Graham plays in the 3rd smallest class in Alabama. So his stats may not be as accurate as Higdon's.
 
Re: Eric Graham next Fred Russell?[/URL]bhawk24bob posted on 2/8/2015...

The excitement over this kid's commitment is proof that this fanbase deserves KF and everything that comes with it

I'll give you guys a hint about what he will amount to.......nothing. No other school in the country wanted him. If using a fullback at rb for 3 years has told us anything, it's that this coaching staff does not know how to evaluate talent at the rb position. To top it off, he's too stupid to take tests - so don't expect him to stick around too long

So are you a member of this fanbase? Do you understand what 'proof' means? Appartently not. If you don't feel you deserve this or KF, please move along bob.
I would LOVE to see you tell this young man and his parents that he is too 'stupid' to take tests.
 
Matt, do you ever wonder during games why the opponent has more talent at almost every other position than Iowa? It's because Iowa consistently reaches with its recruiting and gives out scholarships to players like Graham. Then the mouthbreathers in the Iowa fanbase actually defend these players that our dimwit coaching staff brought in
 
Originally posted by bhawk24bob:
Matt, do you ever wonder during games why the opponent has more talent at almost every other position than Iowa? It's because Iowa consistently reaches with its recruiting and gives out scholarships to players like Graham. Then the mouthbreathers in the Iowa fanbase actually defend these players that our dimwit coaching staff brought in
i realize that you're just trolling and i'm taking the bait, but.... you're damn right we are going to defend the kid. they are kids that want to be hawkeyes, and in my book that is more than enough to warrant my defense. i'm not going to comment on the coaches deserving the same, but the kids, especially kids that just signed their LOI, don't need to hear people like you telling them how stupid they are and how their impact will amount to nothing. go piss up a flag pole.
 
some don't even understand distances, 100 meters = 110 yards so a 4.4 or 4.5 is a very realistic time for the 40 yard dash

and just when Ithink you posters can't get any more stupid than you already are some come in and shows just how stupid some of you

these are the 4* RB's signed since

2009 4* Wegher left after his FR year because he wanted to move into a apartment to live with his Pregnant GF as the U of I has a rule about athletes living in the dorm till after their SO season, the Sally Mason affect
2010 4* Coker ran off by Mason and left at that time in 11th place All time for IA RB's with a little over 2000 yards Sally Mason strikes again
2012 4* Garmon left after his 1st semester after being the 2nd stringer and now is in jail.

stop with the stupid accusations
 
Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:

some don't even understand distances, 100 meters = 110 yards so a 4.4 or 4.5 is a very realistic time for the 40 yard dash

and just when Ithink you posters can't get any more stupid than you already are some come in and shows just how stupid some of you

these are the 4* RB's signed since

2009 4* Wegher left after his FR year because he wanted to move into a apartment to live with his Pregnant GF as the U of I has a rule about athletes living in the dorm till after their SO season, the Sally Mason affect
2010 4* Coker ran off by Mason and left at that time in 11th place All time for IA RB's with a little over 2000 yards Sally Mason strikes again
2012 4* Garmon left after his 1st semester after being the 2nd stringer and now is in jail.

stop with the stupid accusations
....I don't think that's right at all
 
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