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Espn and NY Times headline about Big 10-SEC in talks for scheduling each other. Any info on this

I am not quite sure why you are referring to the Iowa State game as the state's biggest money maker, do you think Iowa/Bama would be any less? Not to mention bigger TV audiences. It is a wash, replace Iowa St with an SEC team and we will still play two cupcakes. There is nothing to be gained from playing Iowa State. I am all in, I hope it happens. I would much rather see Mizzou than Moo U.
A. Because it is, for both schools/towns when they host.......and you're crazy if you think Iowa and ISU don't give a sh** about the economic impact the Iowa-ISU game has on Ames and Iowa City.

B. How often do you think Iowa is gonna be hosting the likes of Alabama, Texas, LSU, Georgia, or Oklahoma?
If anything, we'll be lucky to play one of those teams in a 5 year stretch and it will most likely be on the road.
 
A. Because it is, for both schools/towns when they host.......and you're crazy if you think Iowa and ISU don't give a sh** about the economic impact the Iowa-ISU game has on Ames and Iowa City.

B. How often do you think Iowa is gonna be hosting the likes of Alabama, Texas, LSU, Georgia, or Oklahoma?
If anything, we'll be lucky to play one of those teams in a 5 year stretch and it will most likely be on the road.
You understand that the economic impact on Iowa City playing a SEC team at home, is the same as playing ISU at home; right? As a matter of fact, you could argue that the economic impact to the State of Iowa is doubled if Moo U was playing someone else in Ames at the same time. Iowa sells out home games, it doesn't matter if it is Iowa State, or not. Your argument holds no logic. Now I understand that ISU has trouble selling out, except for the Iowa game and occasionally the UNI game and maybe one other during the year. ISU needs Iowa.......Iowa does not NEED the Iowa State game.
 
You understand that the economic impact on Iowa City playing a SEC team at home, is the same as playing ISU at home; right? As a matter of fact, you could argue that the economic impact to the State of Iowa is doubled if Moo U was playing someone else in Ames at the same time. Iowa sells out home games, it doesn't matter if it is Iowa State, or not. Your argument holds no logic.
The only potential impact is the cohabitation of the students and potential drinking, eating and fornication. Def get lots of students that come in here or there that are there for the parties only. Other than that the impact is a wash if you ask me.
 
The only potential impact is the cohabitation of the students and potential drinking, eating and fornication. Def get lots of students that come in here or there that are there for the parties only. Other than that the impact is a wash if you ask me.
Well I am all for the partying aspect, but ISU can fornicate themselves.
 
The soonest I COULD see it happen is 2028, the sec will need to add two teams OR have 2 of their teams play 2 B1(8)G teams.
 
Actually, that's the only scenario unless the Big Ten adds a conference game.

In years where we play in Iowa City, we only get 4 conf. home games. 2 OOC games + ISU means 7 home games. In years we play AT Ames, we have 5 conf. home games + 2 OOC home games for a grand total of........7.

Add an SEC team into the mix. That's a guaranteed alternate home one year and on the road the next.

Regardless of how you spin it, we'll end up with 7 one year, 6 in another.

Even if we flipped the 5/4 model it would still come out the same, unless they changed when we're on the road and when we're hosting an SEC team......then it could be 5 and 8! :D

Iowa is not getting rid of the ISU game, so that's how it'll have to be.

Iowa will get rid of Iowa State before they get rid of that 7th home game.
 
Actually, that's the only scenario unless the Big Ten adds a conference game.

In years where we play in Iowa City, we only get 4 conf. home games. 2 OOC games + ISU means 7 home games. In years we play AT Ames, we have 5 conf. home games + 2 OOC home games for a grand total of........7.

Add an SEC team into the mix. That's a guaranteed alternate home one year and on the road the next.

Regardless of how you spin it, we'll end up with 7 one year, 6 in another.

Even if we flipped the 5/4 model it would still come out the same, unless they changed when we're on the road and when we're hosting an SEC team......then it could be 5 and 8! :D

Iowa is not getting rid of the ISU game, so that's how it'll have to be.
Nope.
 
I’m responding, so I’m killing what I’m about to say, but here is the response.

Any scenario that suggests Iowa will play six home games every year, does not deserve a response.

Monkey, you’re a great poster, but if you actually believe Iowa would play six home games every other year to keep ISU on the schedule, you’re off you’re rocker. It would be a non starter, and probably for both schools.
 
I’m responding, so I’m killing what I’m about to say, but here is the response.

Any scenario that suggests Iowa will play six home games every year, does not deserve a response.

Monkey, you’re a great poster, but if you actually believe Iowa would play six home games every other year to keep ISU on the schedule, you’re off you’re rocker. It would be a non starter, and probably for both schools.
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A. Because it is, for both schools/towns when they host.......and you're crazy if you think Iowa and ISU don't give a sh** about the economic impact the Iowa-ISU game has on Ames and Iowa City.
When ISU plays an opponent at home you can't find a hotel room or seat in a restaurant/bar on Game weekend in Ames regardless of opponent. Same Goes for Iowa City. The eateries, bars don't magically get more rated capacity at each respective locale when ISU and Iowa plays. The hotels don't magically expand to more rooms on cyhawk weekend either. When both teams have home games on the same weekend you are essentially filling 2 cities with people who fill the bars and hotels. Also 2 television networks operating. The local economic impact isn't changed that much because capacity is capacity regardless of who is visiting town. The cup can only be so full. Now replace the rivalry with each team playing someone else at home on that weekend. I would hope you would see the simple math here. Two full cups instead of one.
 
The only potential impact is the cohabitation of the students and potential drinking, eating and fornication. Def get lots of students that come in here or there that are there for the parties only. Other than that the impact is a wash if

The only potential impact is the cohabitation of the students and potential drinking, eating and fornication. Def get lots of students that come in here or there that are there for the parties only. Other than that the impact is a wash if you ask me.
These same students are going to exhibiting these behaviors regardless of iowa locale on any given game weekend. Now (aside from when BYU comes to town in Ames) consider the pandemonium exhibited when both Iowa universities have home games. Influx of out of state students.
 
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Think it is a good chance that you see those two leagues break away from NCAA control in FB sooner rather than later.
They did that 41 years ago, as did all other conferences in FBS level. They've been their own ruling bodies since. NCAA is, and has been, an image that the conferences utilize to project an overarching authority, when in reality, it's been conferences ruling themselves.

Realignment - Conference control entirely.
Discipline - Conference ultimate choice for adherence on every occasion. PSU is a good example. They chose to adhere to NCAA "suggestions" but are legally required to adhere to conference "enforcement or suggestion". The B1G uses the NCAA as an image barometer and typically reinforced those stipulations for public image but only the decisions of the conference matter. Why, because the conference owns the teams television rights, not the NCAA. See FSU as another example.
Scholarship limits - Conference control entirely.

Every team in a conference is contractually obligated to the conference for football and each are solely independent organizations to do with their teams as they choose. If a team wants out of the conference, they have to get out of their remaining contract and are subject to All decisions a conference makes until then, including visibility. The conference can punish a team whenever they want and the team must do it. All conferences are outside of the jurisdiction of the NCAA. I've tried telling people this many times because it's what I went to school for. Each conference is their own sports entity similar to the NFL and NBA. They make their own rules and nobody else has any say outside of state legislature, which, really can't do much except for their own state teams. See California trying to stop USC and UCLA from leaving the PAC initially. NCAA has nothing to do with anything at all regarding college football at the FBS level.

It's why it's not the NCAA playoffs or logo for football. Yet, in basketball, or other sports, it's all NCAA. FCS and below ARE under NCAA jurisdiction which is why it's the FCS NCAA playoffs. They don't have separation with their television contracts. In reality, the conferences, mainly the two we know, make all the decisions entirely, and allow NCAA jurisdiction in this regard to simply maintain an image because it's better to have a safety net than not. Conferences don't care about their income in other sports because it's so minimal in comparison to football. People can keep blaming the NCAA for all the woes in college sports all they want but it always boils down to the conferences.

At some point, it will be common knowledge to all that the NCAA isn't involved. It hasn't been since the early 80's and it never will be again.
 
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When ISU plays an opponent at home you can't find a hotel room or seat in a restaurant/bar on Game weekend in Ames regardless of opponent. Same Goes for Iowa City. The eateries, bars don't magically get more rated capacity at each respective locale when ISU and Iowa plays. The hotels don't magically expand to more rooms on cyhawk weekend either. When both teams have home games on the same weekend you are essentially filling 2 cities with people who fill the bars and hotels. Also 2 television networks operating. The local economic impact isn't changed that much because capacity is capacity regardless of who is visiting town. The cup can only be so full. Now replace the rivalry with each team playing someone else at home on that weekend. I would hope you would see the simple math here. Two full cups instead of one.
Yeah, but see I know what the numbers are.................

That's why I'm letting you all reply like you know what's up. ;)
 
I think they threatened to before the series started back up in ‘77, but it is not mandated.

They can posture, but they can’t force them to play. It’s not like it would really be Iowa’s choice anyway.
Nobody is going to compel the Iowa legislature or Governor to sign a law that Iowa-ISU FB must play each year. However, one could see the State BOR apply pressure to Beth & Jamie to continue the series in FB and the other sports.
 
This is the last straw Iowa's Governor, legislature, and BOR would need to just shut down public universities entirely. And maybe throw in public elementary and secondary schools for good measure.
 
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Create a much bigger gap between them and the lesser conferences.

Do you like more money or less money? Draw in even more eye balls.
This is the problem. You think Ohio St, Michigan, Bama, Georgia, etc. want Iowa to get the same cut from the revenue as them? Absolutely not. They will continue to shrink this down and any teams who were lucky enough to be in these conferences to begin with (us) will get significantly less than the others.
 
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This is the problem. You think Ohio St, Michigan, Bama, Georgia, etc. want Iowa to get the same cut from the revenue as them? Absolutely not. They will continue to shrink this down and any teams who were lucky enough to be in these conferences to begin with (us) will get significantly less than the others.
I don't think so. Why doesn't the NFL do that? You need a certain number of teams in the pool. The quantity in the SEC and BT is just about right. They need to get to a greater level of parity, not the reverse. A certain level of parity is what draws the most interest and the most money.
 
I don't think so. Why doesn't the NFL do that? You need a certain number of teams in the pool. The quantity in the SEC and BT is just about right. They need to get to a greater level of parity, not the reverse. A certain level of parity is what draws the most interest and the most money.
The revenue sharing model is already being challenged in multiple professional sports. Look at the MLB for example, after COVID successful owners started arguing that they should be able to keep a higher percentage of the revenue because the crappy teams weren't punished in any financial way for not spending in free agency. It's being discussed and middle of the pack programs like Iowa shouldn't be naive to think we will be included at the same rate long term.
 
Everyone at Iowa wants to dump the isu game.
Last I remember the regents voted for it to continue it years ago and that it’s mandated. Unless both universities put up a protest I don’t think there’s much that can be done to change it. Iowa St fans want to continue it more than Iowa fans.
Nothing is mandated.
 
The revenue sharing model is already being challenged in multiple professional sports. Look at the MLB for example, after COVID successful owners started arguing that they should be able to keep a higher percentage of the revenue because the crappy teams weren't punished in any financial way for not spending in free agency. It's being discussed and middle of the pack programs like Iowa shouldn't be naive to think we will be included at the same rate long term.
Parity drives ratings for the leagues.
 
I’m responding, so I’m killing what I’m about to say, but here is the response.

Any scenario that suggests Iowa will play six home games every year, does not deserve a response.

Monkey, you’re a great poster, but if you actually believe Iowa would play six home games every other year to keep ISU on the schedule, you’re off you’re rocker. It would be a non starter, and probably for both schools.
No way Iowa has a 6 game home schedule unless, unless someone pays Iowa a ton of money to play a big time non conf opponent at their place or a neutral sight like the Atlanta dome where the falcons play.

Losing the home game means people not working and getting paid for parking cars etc, concession sales being lost which are fundraisers for various groups, hotels and eating places losing a lot of money.
 
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