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It would kinda irritate me if Iowa and ISU were in the same quarter bracket two years in a row. Say what you will about ISU and their struggles, the thought of them being the team to end our season would be too much to handle. I want them as far away from the Hawks as possible. Call me a pansy if you want.
 
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I would love to play the clowns on a neutral court. Uthoff has already proven to be the best player in the state this season and nothing would be better to see than this senior class end the clowns dream season in the tourney.

I just love that Iowa is the team getting all the national pub while the clowns are imploding.
 
StormHawk42 said:
It would kinda irritate me if Iowa and ISU were in the same quarter bracket two years in a row. Say what you will about ISU and their struggles, the thought of them being the team to end our season would be too much to handle. I want them as far away from the Hawks as possible. Call me a pansy if you want.
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They wouldnt get past USC in that bracket
 
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StormHawk42 said:
It would kinda irritate me if Iowa and ISU were in the same quarter bracket two years in a row. Say what you will about ISU and their struggles, the thought of them being the team to end our season would be too much to handle. I want them as far away from the Hawks as possible. Call me a pansy if you want.
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My thoughts are if they played, right now anyway, on a neutral court, Iowa wins by 15.
 
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joey632 said:
I would love to play the clowns on a neutral court. Uthoff has already proven to be the best player in the state this season and nothing would be better to see than this senior class end the clowns dream season in the tourney.

I just love that Iowa is the team getting all the national pub while the clowns are imploding.
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Imploding? Are you familiar with the ISU record?
 
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hawkeyemike23 said:
Yeah bro, it's totally normal for starters to refuse to practice in the middle of the season. And for a quarter of your rotation to get suspended for not respecting your coach, all signs of a healthy team!
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You must be a math major at Iowa. Please tell us who makes up the quarter of the rotation that is suspended? And how did ISU do without him?

Finally, good to see Iowa fans are scared to play us. I would be too if I was 1-6 in the last 7.
 
Kinky F said:
You must be a math major at Iowa. Please tell us who makes up the quarter of the rotation that is suspended? And how did ISU do without him?

Finally, good to see Iowa fans are scared to play us. I would be too if I was 1-6 in the last 7.
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Cooke a game, McKay a game idiot.
 
Lone clone don't come to an iowa board to tells us the definition of imploding. All I remember during football season was clowns saying wait until bball season. We'll guess what clowns, I'm still waiting for this national title contender to show itself. Comment back when u beat a top 25 team away from Hilton. It's just to bad ncaa tourney games can't be played in Hilton or clowns woulD be contenders.
 
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I don't see ISU as "imploding". 17-6 while playing most of their season minus 1 starter is not imploding.

Their 6 losses:

UNI (2 or 3 point game). Good for UNI, they played great

At Oklahoma (lead with less than 1 minute to go, had a good look at the end to win it)

At Texas (lost in OT)

Baylor at home (tough loss but lead for majority of game, BU outplayed them in last four minutes)

At Texas A&M (see Baylor)

West Virginia at home (see Baylor)

Not making excuses, but their lack of depth MIGHT be in factor in losses to Baylor, A&M, and WV. It seems like good teams just have an extra gear in last 4 minutes. Would Naz Long have made a difference? Who knows. Matt Thomas has been great in his absence, but take any starter out of any lineup and you are not as strong as you were.

Big 12 title is probably out of reach, but this team still has the talent to do well in conference tourney + NCAA. Good seed + good matchups + playing well at the right time = deep run? How far? Who knows? At the same time, they could lose in 1st round. Before you make any snide Hampton or UAB comments, it could happen to Iowa (or anyone) on any given day. Beware. It sucks, but it happens to nearly everyonel at some point. Parity in college bb is pretty evident.

Finally, good for Coach Prohm for suspending McKay. None of us really know what happened. It might cost them a game(s), but no player is above the team or program. He is doing the right thing for the present + future of the program. Time will tell.
 
Why do clowns come to an iowa board and continue to tell us how good they are. Iowa is no. 4 team in the country and all of our losses are to top 30 teams on the road/neutral court. I'm sick of all these clown excuses. Don't come to an iowa board and think we will agree with you because we don't care.
 
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I never said ISU was good. A good team wins those games. Also, not making excuses. Losing a starter to injury is part of the game, but it is a factor. Cross your fingers one of your starting 5 doesn't go down. Finally, the first three posts bring up ISU, presumably by Iowa fans.
 
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Kinky F said:
You must be a math major at Iowa. Please tell us who makes up the quarter of the rotation that is suspended? And how did ISU do without him?

Finally, good to see Iowa fans are scared to play us. I would be too if I was 1-6 in the last 7.
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That OSU team on Saturday was beyond awful
 
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Kinky F said:
You must be a math major at Iowa. Please tell us who makes up the quarter of the rotation that is suspended? And how did ISU do without him?

Finally, good to see Iowa fans are scared to play us. I would be too if I was 1-6 in the last 7.
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Who cares about past seasons This ISU team away from Hilton is not that good
 
Losing Naz hurts. They aren't anywhere near the same team in terms of both talent and swagger. ISU fans know this and they see the end of an era without anything but a sweet 16 to show for it. I'd be pissed off too.
 
Their is one obvious difference between iowa and the clowns and that is depth. Iowa would overcome losing a player to Naz longs ability and be just fine.
 
StormHawk42 said:
It would kinda irritate me if Iowa and ISU were in the same quarter bracket two years in a row. Say what you will about ISU and their struggles, the thought of them being the team to end our season would be too much to handle. I want them as far away from the Hawks as possible. Call me a pansy if you want.
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I don't think theres a team in the country that this group of Hawks would be more motivated to play.

Iowa knows they are the better team and I think they would come out looking to separate clown heads from bodies.
 
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Pepperman said:
Losing Naz hurts. They aren't anywhere near the same team in terms of both talent and swagger. ISU fans know this and they see the end of an era without anything but a sweet 16 to show for it. I'd be pissed off too.
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How many sweet 16's has Fran and the boy's played in since he arrived? I won't look it up again right now but as I recall more years than not they were one and done in the Big 10 tournament as well while the Cyclones have won the last two Big 12 tournaments beating the big boys.
It would seem to me it hurts the image of your team the way you Hawkeye fans talk about how terrible the Cyclones are. That certainly doesn't paint the image of your team in a good light if you are continually being beaten by a bad team.

We'll never know how much Naz Long would have helped the team and that is to bad for him and the team but there is no denying he would have made a big difference if healthy. I don't think many Cyclone fans have boasted the Cyclones could win the NCAA tournament any year, that was mostly done by experts. I think this year is a crap shoot more than usual because more than any year I can remember there isn't a dominate team at the top. For that reason I guess maybe they should add an * to the team that wins it all this year.
 
Myvue said:
How many sweet 16's has Fran and the boy's played in since he arrived? I won't look it up again right now but as I recall more years than not they were one and done in the Big 10 tournament as well while the Cyclones have won the last two Big 12 tournaments beating the big boys.
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The past 3 years, not one of those "big boys" has made it to the elite eight, while the big 10 has had 7 in that time span. Your argument doesn't mean much, sorry.
Yes, you could win the b12 tourney last year against the "big boys" but couldn't beat uab a bit later?
 
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This thread just reminds me of why I'm wondering if "Little" 12 is most overrated conference in America right now.
Oklahoma barely is affected by a double digit loss on road to a not good team. The top third of the "Little" 12/SEC challenge was clearly in SEC favor. Oklahoma barely beats a bubble LSU team as the #1 team in country. Top 10 Kansas goes to overtime to be at barely ranked Kentucky team at home. Top 15 West Virginia loses to unranked Florida. ISU's lost at Texas A&M was the least damaging result to the conference. ISU ranked 14th is a joke right now. They have 6 losses. Only ONE road/Neutral top 50 win.is at Kansas State who's entire RPI resume is beating Oklahoma at home and losing 9 RPI top 25 games. It's nice to play a tough schedule, but 1-9 is not a top 50 RPI worthy, it's a computer schedule being broken.

The "Little" 12 played well out conference to start the season, but lately justifying 3 top 10 teams? Iowa lost to top 5 team on the road at Maryland and fell a lot more than losing to a mediocre team is affecting "Little" 12 school.

***No conference should use BIG in their name and have LESS members than the number indicates.****
 
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StormHawk42 said:
It would kinda irritate me if Iowa and ISU were in the same quarter bracket two years in a row. Say what you will about ISU and their struggles, the thought of them being the team to end our season would be too much to handle. I want them as far away from the Hawks as possible. Call me a pansy if you want.
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If this were a site that had "Don't Like" as an option, I suspect you would have many for that comment. Pansy.
 
Again, why are clowns coming to an iowa board to tell us how good they are? We don't think the clowns are very good away from Hilton coliseum and the Big12 conference is anything but big boy basketball the last 4 years in the tourney. Pound your chest over winning the Big12 tourney but no really cares or notices that outside of clown nation. What fans do notice is when a 3 seed loses to a 14 seed in the ncaa tourney.
 
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Myvue said:
How many sweet 16's has Fran and the boy's played in since he arrived? I won't look it up again right now but as I recall more years than not they were one and done in the Big 10 tournament as well while the Cyclones have won the last two Big 12 tournaments beating the big boys.
It would seem to me it hurts the image of your team the way you Hawkeye fans talk about how terrible the Cyclones are. That certainly doesn't paint the image of your team in a good light if you are continually being beaten by a bad team.

We'll never know how much Naz Long would have helped the team and that is to bad for him and the team but there is no denying he would have made a big difference if healthy. I don't think many Cyclone fans have boasted the Cyclones could win the NCAA tournament any year, that was mostly done by experts. I think this year is a crap shoot more than usual because more than any year I can remember there isn't a dominate team at the top. For that reason I guess maybe they should add an * to the team that wins it all this year.
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Brent who wears Blummers claimed isu was a final four team that could win it all. Pretty sure he is an isu grad.

As usual do tell us how it really is though.
 
Myvue said:
How many sweet 16's has Fran and the boy's played in since he arrived? I won't look it up again right now but as I recall more years than not they were one and done in the Big 10 tournament as well while the Cyclones have won the last two Big 12 tournaments beating the big boys.
It would seem to me it hurts the image of your team the way you Hawkeye fans talk about how terrible the Cyclones are. That certainly doesn't paint the image of your team in a good light if you are continually being beaten by a bad team.

We'll never know how much Naz Long would have helped the team and that is to bad for him and the team but there is no denying he would have made a big difference if healthy. I don't think many Cyclone fans have boasted the Cyclones could win the NCAA tournament any year, that was mostly done by experts. I think this year is a crap shoot more than usual because more than any year I can remember there isn't a dominate team at the top. For that reason I guess maybe they should add an * to the team that wins it all this year.
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Gee if isu was so awesome by beating "big boys" as you put it why did UAB punk you? Those so called "big boys" have gaged each of the last 5 plus years. Do all "big boys" consistently pee down their legs in the tourney or is the Texas Ten just "special"?
 
Kinky F said:
You must be a math major at Iowa. Please tell us who makes up the quarter of the rotation that is suspended? And how did ISU do without him?

Finally, good to see Iowa fans are scared to play us. I would be too if I was 1-6 in the last 7.
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Why be selective in the time frame Kinky? Wouldn't little bro have the series advantage if they were as awesome as you claim?

Yep that win over OSU strikes fear in no one. With isu's recent history what is to say they will win their first game?

UAB was just better I guess.
 
H4wkfan4life said:
The past 3 years, not one of those "big boys" has made it to the elite eight, while the big 10 has had 7 in that time span. Your argument doesn't mean much, sorry.
Yes, you could win the b12 tourney last year against the "big boys" but couldn't beat uab a bit later?
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The B12 tournament is the one you really want to win, the NCAA tournament is just a watered down version of that. ISU won the one that mattered two years in a row.
 
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I don't see ISU as "imploding". 17-6 while playing most of their season minus 1 starter is not imploding.

Their 6 losses:

UNI (2 or 3 point game). Good for UNI, they played great

At Oklahoma (lead with less than 1 minute to go, had a good look at the end to win it)

At Texas (lost in OT)

Baylor at home (tough loss but lead for majority of game, BU outplayed them in last four minutes)

At Texas A&M (see Baylor)

West Virginia at home (see Baylor)

Not making excuses, but their lack of depth MIGHT be in factor in losses to Baylor, A&M, and WV. It seems like good teams just have an extra gear in last 4 minutes. Would Naz Long have made a difference? Who knows. Matt Thomas has been great in his absence, but take any starter out of any lineup and you are not as strong as you were.

Big 12 title is probably out of reach, but this team still has the talent to do well in conference tourney + NCAA. Good seed + good matchups + playing well at the right time = deep run? How far? Who knows? At the same time, they could lose in 1st round. Before you make any snide Hampton or UAB comments, it could happen to Iowa (or anyone) on any given day. Beware. It sucks, but it happens to nearly everyonel at some point. Parity in college bb is pretty evident.

Finally, good for Coach Prohm for suspending McKay. None of us really know what happened. It might cost them a game(s), but no player is above the team or program. He is doing the right thing for the present + future of the program. Time will tell.
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Not making excuses? From where I sit, it appears that it is exactly what you are doing.... looking for and making excuses.

UNI game. Panthers came ready and loaded to play and executed their game plan to near perfection. Solid win for what now is seen as a middle of the pack, MVC team.

(Next game for isu was a win by the very same margin of difference of the UNI game. Should we note that as a questionable victory for isu?)

OU game. Let me know when a late lead is the determining factor because I can point you to many isu fans that dispute that notion via the Iowa game in Ames this past December.

Texas game. Lost.

Baylor in Hilton. Another loss; see OU game comment to find the excuse.

A&M. Yet one more loss to a team that lost to unranked Arkansas prior and to another, less than stellar team following the isu game.

West Virginia in Hilton. One more loss.


The 'lack of depth' groan has been played over and over since Fred was hired. Who exactly at isu is charged with responsibility to see that enough players are there to compete throughout an entire season? isu is not the only team to have players go down in the course of a year. Sure it impacts the team, but others seem to compensate and move on better than the team from Ames.

Could not agree more with your closing statement. The curiosity of it all though is how we heard of zero problems during the Hoiberg era (which was not accurate). In fact, I believe that one particular player was found under the influence having driven a vehicle off the road near Boone early on in FH's career at isu and was given what amounted to a slap on the wrist. Now, there is a new coach and something occurred to warrant a multi-game suspension. Not sure that there is not reason to ask why the difference between the two situations and corresponding consequences of those actions. If the previous coaching staff where still in place, I am not sure that the McKay issue would have played out that way it is now.
 
joey632 said:
Again, why are clowns coming to an iowa board to tell us how good they are? We don't think the clowns are very good away from Hilton coliseum and the Big12 conference is anything but big boy basketball the last 4 years in the tourney. Pound your chest over winning the Big12 tourney but no really cares or notices that outside of clown nation. What fans do notice is when a 3 seed loses to a 14 seed in the ncaa tourney.
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This is so true. Last March I was sitting at Wide World of Disney watching spring training baseball game and all of a sudden several people around us start laughing and we overheard them talking about UAB winning that game and making comments about ISU being overrated and who else from Big 12 would lose too. I have no clue where the people were from, but we found it pretty interesting how negative the comments were about ISU and Big 12.
 
I agree with whoever posted earlier that as an Iowa fan I don't want to see ISU in the sweet sixteen. I would assume most ISU fans wouldn't want to see Iowa that early either. Say what you want about ISU losing six games, they are a scary NCAA match up for anyone. Their defense is tough in stretches and if they get hot from three they can beat anybody. Not to mention Morris is one of the best point guards in the nation. And as much as Iowa fans dislike Georgie boy, he is an All American (2nd team). As much as I would relish Iowa getting a chance to redeem themselves against ISU, I hope it is in the final eight or even better the final four.
 
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