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1 hour long program..

Spent the first 15 minutes talking about Michigan, the next 15 minutes talking about Ohio State. The following 9 minutes was their pick to in the East (so they talked about Michigan and Ohio State again) and spent probably 30-45 seconds on Michigan State (defending champ) and Penn State.

At this point I changed it. I don't watch ESPN anymore unless it's an actual game but I know they are getting their butts kicked on viewership. This has to be the crap that's killing them. Neither team that actually played in th B10 title got any air time!?
 
As much as I don't like Sparty, they have been awfully successful (almost dominant) recently in the B1G and weren't there a few AP voters that left them completely out of their top 25?
 
I think what ESPN did, is doing, is being done by most national media outlets. The Golf Channel, NBC golf is the same way. They use social media metrics to emphasize players and teams with tremendous followers, or trending news stores. If you are not a national power with a huge fan base, you need a trending reason to get coverage, otherwise when news is slow, they are going to show the numbers.

For example, they are going to show Spieth, Day, Fowler, and McIlroy day in and out, until someone like Zach hole's out a shot, or Furyk shoots a 58. When you are watching golf, and they show a nobody standing over a 50 ft putt, you know without a doubt that putt is going in.
 
I saw this last night. I heard them say that "The RPI is picking Nebraska to win the West!" Goodness. I'd love to believe that. I felt like this got more attention than Iowa, who won the division last year and has a ton of weapons returning. Not saying this in any kind of smack talk. I thought it was dumb too. They want Michigan to be good so badly.
 
1 hour long program..

Spent the first 15 minutes talking about Michigan, the next 15 minutes talking about Ohio State. The following 9 minutes was their pick to in the East (so they talked about Michigan and Ohio State again) and spent probably 30-45 seconds on Michigan State (defending champ) and Penn State.

At this point I changed it. I don't watch ESPN anymore unless it's an actual game but I know they are getting their butts kicked on viewership. This has to be the crap that's killing them. Neither team that actually played in th B10 title got any air time!?
Yeah, I watched about 15 minutes of the "Ohio State/Michigan" preview show. Heard random musings about how wonderful both programs are and JT Barret is the best quarterback, and then heard a chuckle of two when one of the guys named Iowa as his spoiler team ... and then heard a reference to Iowa's schedule ... And that's interesting, we play Nebraska, Wisconsin, AND MICHIGAN and Iowa still gets guff because of its schedule.

Last year it was: "Well, they don't play Ohio State or Michigan" ... It's at the point now where I only tune into ESPN during game time. I used to soak in the College GameDay show... and the preview shows, etc. Now, I tune all of that out. I don't need a talking head to tell me our strength coach is overpaid, or our schedule is too easy, etc., and how it's back to being the Big 2 Little 8 ... These are the same "experts" who brow beat on Iowa and never took it serious until we showed up in the Top 5 and they had to talk about us.
 
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I do think MSU will be third in that division this year. I don't think their offense will be very good. Dantonio has been really good but he has had years where he has only won 6 or 7 games. Like most schools it depends on the QB and I don't think they have a good QB this year.
 
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I'm ready for the BTN to have it's own "On Campus" show. Similar to the SEC. I think that would kill.
 
Jason Sehorn (sp) really comes off as a snide jerk when he is talking about anyone other than Ohio State or Michigan. I have never been an MSU fan either but they deserve more respect than they got from those guys. Any time you've got west or east coast talking heads you always seem to be sure to get the disrespectful analysis and simpering jokes. Who's gonna win the west? "IOWA?" giggle, giggle! make me puke.
 
Yeah, I watched about 15 minutes of the "Ohio State/Michigan" preview show. Heard random musings about how wonderful both programs are and JT Barret is the best quarterback, and then heard a chuckle of two when one of the guys named Iowa as his spoiler team ... and then heard a reference to Iowa's schedule ... And that's interesting, we play Nebraska, Wisconsin, AND MICHIGAN and Iowa still gets guff because of its schedule.

Last year it was: "Well, they don't play Ohio State or Michigan" ... It's at the point now where I only tune into ESPN during game time. I used to soak in the College GameDay show... and the preview shows, etc. Now, I tune all of that out. I don't need a talking head to tell me our strength coach is overpaid, or our schedule is too easy, etc., and how it's back to being the Big 2 Little 8 ... These are the same "experts" who brow beat on Iowa and never took it serious until we showed up in the Top 5 and they had to talk about us.
The Rose Bowl did major damage. You can't really expect them to talk up Iowa at this
point. You are correct...they did take Iowa seriously, probably even more so after the MSU loss...but the whole world saw them endure the most lopsided Bowl game maybe ever.
So the Nation is not interested in what you're selling. That is harsh I know, but it's the truth. Have to climb that mountain all over again...and I think they just may do it.
 
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espn sucks! Like others have said it's only good for games. Well I like Mike & Mike too but that's it, everything else sucks! Take everything the talking heads up their asSEC have to say with a grain of salt!
 
Yeah, I watched about 15 minutes of the "Ohio State/Michigan" preview show. Heard random musings about how wonderful both programs are and JT Barret is the best quarterback, and then heard a chuckle of two when one of the guys named Iowa as his spoiler team ... and then heard a reference to Iowa's schedule ... And that's interesting, we play Nebraska, Wisconsin, AND MICHIGAN and Iowa still gets guff because of its schedule.

Last year it was: "Well, they don't play Ohio State or Michigan" ... It's at the point now where I only tune into ESPN during game time. I used to soak in the College GameDay show... and the preview shows, etc. Now, I tune all of that out. I don't need a talking head to tell me our strength coach is overpaid, or our schedule is too easy, etc., and how it's back to being the Big 2 Little 8 ... These are the same "experts" who brow beat on Iowa and never took it serious until we showed up in the Top 5 and they had to talk about us.
It's funny because just 6 years ago, if things played out the same as 2015,, we'd be outright conference champs and playing Clemson in the national title game.

Good God, poor ESPN would've suffered too much agony to survive as a multi-billion dollar company having to talk about Iowa in the championship game for a month.......
 
The Rose Bowl did major damage. You can't really expect them to talk up Iowa at this
point. You are correct...they did take Iowa seriously, probably even more so after the MSU loss...but the whole world saw them endure the most lopsided Bowl game maybe ever. (Maybe ever, huh. Perhaps you should make sure that's the case before you push too hard for something like that.)
So the Nation is not interested in what you're selling.
 
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According to this article it wasn't even the most lopsided bowl game of last year. The rest of the list puts up some other candidates.

It just felt like it was. To be honest, Stanford could probably have scored as many as they wanted.
 
I'm ready for the BTN to have it's own "On Campus" show. Similar to the SEC. I think that would kill.

Yes please!! Same for XM radio. The College Sports channel on XM is currently 75% SEC, 25% dedicated to the "favorites" of the other Power 5 conferences. Enough already!!
 
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The Rose Bowl did major damage. You can't really expect them to talk up Iowa at this
point. You are correct...they did take Iowa seriously, probably even more so after the MSU loss...but the whole world saw them endure the most lopsided Bowl game maybe ever.
So the Nation is not interested in what you're selling. That is harsh I know, but it's the truth. Have to climb that mountain all over again...and I think they just may do it.
I couldn't agree more. We did so well building the momentum during the season. Losing to MSU
In Championship game gave us even more national respect.
Crapping the bed in the Rose Bowl took all of our momentum away from us. If we would have won that game, we are preseason top 5 and they are talking about us for 1 of the four teams to make CFP.
Last year is done and we need to start over and shut up all the naysayers.
This team will be better this year, but will probably have a worse record.
It doesn't matter what our record is. This Senior class has one mission and that is to win the Big Championship game. Whatever team shows up from the East better know it's going to be a long day when they come to play us that day.
 
The only time anyone I know watches ESPN anymore is when there is a game on.

Agreed. Terrible programming anymore. It's sad when I can't even stand Sportcenter. Call me sexist, but it is also very difficult to watch a panel of 4 women talk about the football locker room, and what it is like to play the game.
 
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Well, didn't MSU get stomped 38-0 last year? If that wasn't a whitewash- at least we scored some garbage touchdowns..
I hate to bring it up...but is everyone in denial. Stanford was up 35-0 and half and that game was over in 10 minutes. I watched it. MSU played BAMA tough for a half, and BAMA was better than Stanford. The Rose Bowl was over quicker than any Bowl game I've watched. Mop up TDs mean little. And by that time, no one was still tuned in to the game. If that hurts your feelings, so be it. Oh, and to the previous poster, I'm not "selling anything." After eight months you are trying to sell yourself...unfortunately the rest of the world saw it differently.
 
Agreed. Terrible programming anymore. It's sad when I can't even stand Sportcenter. Call me sexist, but it is also very difficult to watch a panel of 4 women talk about the football locker room, and what it is like to play the game.
That's not sexist that's just the truth. Don't let society make you feel like you need to put an asterisk on blatantly true statements..
 
I'm ready for the BTN to have it's own "On Campus" show. Similar to the SEC. I think that would kill.

They are having a traveling show this fall:

http://btn.com/2016/07/26/btn-unveils-original-programming-lineup-ahead-of-10th-year/

In the largest programming initiative in network history, BTN will take its college football pregame coverage on the road in 2016 with the debut of BTN Tailgate. BTN Tailgate will begin at 10:30 a.m. ET and is a live, 90-minute show originating from a different Big Ten campus each week during conference play.

BTN Tailgate will be Big Ten football fans’ home this fall with previews, highlights, special guests and analysis from host Dave Revsine and BTN’s football experts Gerry DiNardo and former Chicago Bears defensive tackle Anthony Adams. Dairy Queen, GEICO, Navistar, Slim Jim, TIAA and U.S. Cellular have all signed on as sponsors of the show, as well as the surrounding fan experience.
 
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They are having a traveling show this fall:

http://btn.com/2016/07/26/btn-unveils-original-programming-lineup-ahead-of-10th-year/

In the largest programming initiative in network history, BTN will take its college football pregame coverage on the road in 2016 with the debut of BTN Tailgate. BTN Tailgate will begin at 10:30 a.m. ET and is a live, 90-minute show originating from a different Big Ten campus each week during conference play.

BTN Tailgate will be Big Ten football fans’ home this fall with previews, highlights, special guests and analysis from host Dave Revsine and BTN’s football experts Gerry DiNardo and former Chicago Bears defensive tackle Anthony Adams. Dairy Queen, GEICO, Navistar, Slim Jim, TIAA and U.S. Cellular have all signed on as sponsors of the show, as well as the surrounding fan experience.

This is fantastic news. Hoping we get them for The Heroes Game every year.
 
I hate to bring it up...but is everyone in denial. Stanford was up 35-0 and half and that game was over in 10 minutes. I watched it. MSU played BAMA tough for a half, and BAMA was better than Stanford. The Rose Bowl was over quicker than any Bowl game I've watched. Mop up TDs mean little. And by that time, no one was still tuned in to the game. If that hurts your feelings, so be it. Oh, and to the previous poster, I'm not "selling anything." After eight months you are trying to sell yourself...unfortunately the rest of the world saw it differently.

A UM fan sticking up for his Big Brother, that's nice....
 
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Unfortunately, I'm guessing its at the OSU/UM game every year. Maybe we'll get a visit due to it being on Black Friday.

I think they're on different weeks. Mich-OSU on 19th and Heroes on 25th. Would be awesome to have them at Kinnick for this game.
 
The Rose Bowl did major damage. You can't really expect them to talk up Iowa at this
point. You are correct...they did take Iowa seriously, probably even more so after the MSU loss...but the whole world saw them endure the most lopsided Bowl game maybe ever.
So the Nation is not interested in what you're selling. That is harsh I know, but it's the truth. Have to climb that mountain all over again...and I think they just may do it.

I think Oklahoma vs USC in the 2005 Orange Bowl may have been more lopsided. National Championship game had much more significance IMO.
 
Well, apparently, you want me to try....Okay then.
I hate to bring it up (Umm, then don't.)...but is everyone in denial. Stanford was up 35-0 and half (Oregon was up 31-0 on TCU at half....and everyone thought that game was over too.) and that game was over in 10 minutes. I watched it. (so did the rest of the entire world, apparently. Or at least that's what you're telling us. Whom shall we believe? You, or the Nielson ratings?.......) MSU played BAMA tough for a half, and BAMA was better than Stanford. (Don't care.) The Rose Bowl was over quicker than any Bowl game I've watched. (How many bowl games have you watched? And yes, it is relevant.) Mop up TDs mean little. (The final score is what people remember. Not when TDs were scored, or if they were mop-up scores when Stanford "wasn't trying anymore".......) And by that time, no one was still tuned in to the game. (It's absolutely amazing that you not only know that the rest of the world was watching the Rose Bowl....and knew this while you, yourself, watched the Rose Bowl, but that you could tell who all stopped watching at a certain point. You should work for the government catching terrorists or some sh**. That's a bada** super power you got there. ;)) If that hurts your feelings, so be it. (Why? I'm not jealous of people with superhuman abilities. They're suppose to inspire awe to mankind......or are you a villainous type? Judging by the tone of your post, I am a little curious.) Oh, and to the previous poster, I'm not "selling anything." (I see that now. You have superpowers. You can tell what 7 billion other people are doing and when they're not doing it, because you said it yourself as if it were a fact, so that means it's true. That's not selling anything, at all. My mistake.) After eight months you are trying to sell yourself (Me or Iowa?....Where was that directed, so I can express the appropriate emotion for the comment.)...unfortunately the rest of the world saw it differently (Oh I bet at least 4 people blamed Stanford's band for Iowa's performance in that game......and I wouldn't blame them. :cool:).


It's nice that you're trying to be the realist and tell us like it is with how bad we got beat in the Rose Bowl by exaggerating that it was the most lopsided bowl loss in college football history................did your history of college football start sometime in the 21st Century?

But, anyway, my comment is about this idea that last year's game was the most lopsided in bowl game history (maybe ever :confused:)..........which is another way of saying this felt, to you, like the most lopsided bowl game ever. But then you tried to speak for others (the rest of the world in fact).

So now I'm going to show you that it's okay to no longer feel like this was the most lopsided bowl game in the history of college football (because it's not). You have my permission.

Stanford beat Iowa by 29 pts.....here's a list of Rose Bowl games alone that topped that:

1902- Michigan 49, Stanford 0 (49 pts).............first bowl game ever was more lopsided than Iowa-Stanford. You basically lost this after one f***ing game, but I have no intention of showing mercy, so enjoy.

1948- Michigan 49, USC 0 (49 pts).............Good thing the whole world wasn't watching back then. USC would've never won another national title had they been. :eek:

2014- Oregon 59, Florida State 20 (39 pts)...........CFP semifinal at the Rose Bowl

1984- UCLA 45, Illinois 9 (36 pts)
1960- Washington 44, Wisconsin 8 (36 pts)

1933- USC 35, Pittsburgh 0 (35 pts).......did you know that there have been 19 shutouts in the Rose Bowl's history, including a 0-0 tie between two teams that shared the national title with Iowa in 1921? (well now you do know.....)

1930- USC 47, Pittsburgh 14 (33 pts)
1952- Illinois 40, Stanford 7 (33 pts)
2008- USC 49, Illinois 17 (32 pts)
1947- Illinois 45, UCLA 14 (31 pts)


So Stanford's victory only tied for the 11th largest margin of victory in the Rose Bowl..........and that is just one damn bowl game. Do you realize how many bowl games there are? o_O

And you think you can convince people on this Iowa message board that it was the most lopsided bowl game (maybe ever), and that the rest of the world agrees with you, and not expect anyone to think you're exaggerating just a tiny bit?...........


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And fwiw, Iowa beat Texas 55-17 in the 1984 Freedom Bowl. Chuck Long passed for more yards (461) than Stanford had in total offense (429) against Iowa in the Rose Bowl, to go along with 6 TD passes.
 
you guys have got to learn to step back and pretend you are not an iowa fan and not in iowa... and look at it from others' point of view.

I know, that's easy for me to say being in austin TX for 26 years. but look at it this way: with the re-alignment now, I call the big ten west, the WAC.
It reminds me of the old SDSU and Wyoming days and all that jazz. from the 80's. so would the rest of the nation care if the Wyoming cowboys went undefeated reg season then lost their championship and their bowl? nope. nobody would care. this thing is rigged for the sec, and maybe Michigan and osu. everyone else is the Wyoming cowboys now.
 
I can't watch it anymore. I started to DVR college football live, they might as well re-name it to SEC/Harbaugh/Clemson live. Seriously 3 episodes and that's all they talked about. I mean do they know there are other teams that play college football? No wonder they are getting smoked in ratings, they only talk about 3-4 teams or topics. I mean they would get so much more viewership if they would get off the Bama, Mich, Clemson, SEC love fest. It is unwatchable.
 
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you guys have got to learn to step back and pretend you are not an iowa fan and not in iowa... and look at it from others' point of view. (No. And ftr, they (these others you speak of...) don't do it themselves, either. So deal with it.)

I know, that's easy for me to say being in austin TX for 26 years. but look at it this way: with the re-alignment now, I call the big ten west, the WAC.
It reminds me of the old SDSU and Wyoming days and all that jazz. from the 80's. so would the rest of the nation care if the Wyoming cowboys went undefeated reg season then lost their championship and their bowl? nope. nobody would care. this thing is rigged for the sec, and maybe Michigan and osu. everyone else is the Wyoming cowboys now.
If it were the actual Wyoming Cowboys, then yes....nobody would care.

But we're not Wyoming.............are we.
 
Well, apparently, you want me to try....Okay then.



It's nice that you're trying to be the realist and tell us like it is with how bad we got beat in the Rose Bowl by exaggerating that it was the most lopsided bowl loss in college football history................did your history of college football start sometime in the 21st Century?

But, anyway, my comment is about this idea that last year's game was the most lopsided in bowl game history (maybe ever :confused:)..........which is another way of saying this felt, to you, like the most lopsided bowl game ever. But then you tried to speak for others (the rest of the world in fact).

So now I'm going to show you that it's okay to no longer feel like this was the most lopsided bowl game in the history of college football (because it's not). You have my permission.

Stanford beat Iowa by 29 pts.....here's a list of Rose Bowl games alone that topped that:

1902- Michigan 49, Stanford 0 (49 pts).............first bowl game ever was more lopsided than Iowa-Stanford. You basically lost this after one f***ing game, but I have no intention of showing mercy, so enjoy.

1948- Michigan 49, USC 0 (49 pts).............Good thing the whole world wasn't watching back then. USC would've never won another national title had they been. :eek:

2014- Oregon 59, Florida State 20 (39 pts)...........CFP semifinal at the Rose Bowl

1984- UCLA 45, Illinois 9 (36 pts)
1960- Washington 44, Wisconsin 8 (36 pts)

1933- USC 35, Pittsburgh 0 (35 pts).......did you know that there have been 19 shutouts in the Rose Bowl's history, including a 0-0 tie between two teams that shared the national title with Iowa in 1921? (well now you do know.....)

1930- USC 47, Pittsburgh 14 (33 pts)
1952- Illinois 40, Stanford 7 (33 pts)
2008- USC 49, Illinois 17 (32 pts)
1947- Illinois 45, UCLA 14 (31 pts)


So Stanford's victory only tied for the 11th largest margin of victory in the Rose Bowl..........and that is just one damn bowl game. Do you realize how many bowl games there are? o_O

And you think you can convince people on this Iowa message board that it was the most lopsided bowl game (maybe ever), and that the rest of the world agrees with you, and not expect anyone to think you're exaggerating just a tiny bit?...........


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Well, apparently, you want me to try....Okay then.



It's nice that you're trying to be the realist and tell us like it is with how bad we got beat in the Rose Bowl by exaggerating that it was the most lopsided bowl loss in college football history................did your history of college football start sometime in the 21st Century?

But, anyway, my comment is about this idea that last year's game was the most lopsided in bowl game history (maybe ever :confused:)..........which is another way of saying this felt, to you, like the most lopsided bowl game ever. But then you tried to speak for others (the rest of the world in fact).

So now I'm going to show you that it's okay to no longer feel like this was the most lopsided bowl game in the history of college football (because it's not). You have my permission.

Stanford beat Iowa by 29 pts.....here's a list of Rose Bowl games alone that topped that:

1902- Michigan 49, Stanford 0 (49 pts).............first bowl game ever was more lopsided than Iowa-Stanford. You basically lost this after one f***ing game, but I have no intention of showing mercy, so enjoy.

1948- Michigan 49, USC 0 (49 pts).............Good thing the whole world wasn't watching back then. USC would've never won another national title had they been. :eek:

2014- Oregon 59, Florida State 20 (39 pts)...........CFP semifinal at the Rose Bowl

1984- UCLA 45, Illinois 9 (36 pts)
1960- Washington 44, Wisconsin 8 (36 pts)

1933- USC 35, Pittsburgh 0 (35 pts).......did you know that there have been 19 shutouts in the Rose Bowl's history, including a 0-0 tie between two teams that shared the national title with Iowa in 1921? (well now you do know.....)

1930- USC 47, Pittsburgh 14 (33 pts)
1952- Illinois 40, Stanford 7 (33 pts)
2008- USC 49, Illinois 17 (32 pts)
1947- Illinois 45, UCLA 14 (31 pts)


So Stanford's victory only tied for the 11th largest margin of victory in the Rose Bowl..........and that is just one damn bowl game. Do you realize how many bowl games there are? o_O

And you think you can convince people on this Iowa message board that it was the most lopsided bowl game (maybe ever), and that the rest of the world agrees with you, and not expect anyone to think you're exaggerating just a tiny bit?...........


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Congrats. Your pathetic post/like ratio speaks volumes about the logic of your posts.
I really shouldn't dignify you with a response, but you still don't seem to comprehend...so here goes...
All the cute graphics and bold print aside, the premise of this ignorant response is all based on margin of score I believe. Think back to Jan 1st...how quickly was that game over? #5 went 75 yards the first time he touched it...game was 21-0 in 10 minutes. Stanford with double digit sacks. 35-0 at half as Stanford called off the dogs. That you are desperate enough to quote games from 70 years ago plus, should tell you a bit about the game. Good stuff considering the pollsters weren't even alive at the time.
The world(pollsters included) saw what I watched for 3 Quarters...an all time blowout.
So if it makes you sleep better thinking the game wasn't that bad, then sweet dreams.
 
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well, yes. With the realignment yes iowa is now the wyoming cowboys. Yes. And I'm. Fine with it. I used to like them and the wac in the 80s
Except Wyoming has never been a play away from playing in a national championship play-in game, nor have they ever come close to winning a national title in D-1, nor have they ever played in the Rose Bowl.......

If people don't care about Iowa, they wouldn't be ranked 17th. They wouldn't be favored by many to win the West and also picked by many to lose in the Big Ten Championship game. People that don't care about these teams you speak of wouldn't even give said teams the time of day to throw them under the bus, let alone put them in the Top 25 or pick them to be division champs.
 
Congrats. Your pathetic post/like ratio speaks volumes about the logic of your posts.
I really shouldn't dignify you with a response, but you still don't seem to comprehend...so here goes...
All the cute graphics and bold print aside, the premise of this ignorant response is all based on margin of score I believe. Think back to Jan 1st...how quickly was that game over? #5 went 75 yards the first time he touched it...game was 21-0 in 10 minutes. Stanford with double digit sacks. 35-0 at half as Stanford called off the dogs. That you are desperate enough to quote games from 70 years ago plus, should tell you a bit about the game. Good stuff considering the pollsters weren't even alive at the time.
The world(pollsters included) saw what I watched for 3 Quarters...an all time blowout.
So if it makes you sleep better thinking the game wasn't that bad, then sweet dreams.
Nice, I've got you to post defensively, and you even threw in a "I shouldn't dignify you with a response".....this should be easy from here on out. :cool:
 
Back to OP, I watched this and turned the channel when they were talking about new head coaches in the B1G and had an OSU logo next to Chris Ash's name. Sure, it's red and white like Rutgers, but he's no longer a coach at OSU. Hilariously Bad!

They talked about Iowa being the 'darkhorse' and yet admitted a lot of talent was returning and called the schedule easy. Very intuitive. How do they keep justifying these shows?
 
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