Everyone who says “Iowa has to hit the portal big time”…

[Hawkeyegeorge12]

Had better be ready to back it up by contributing to the Swarm or it won’t be effective in attracting worthwhile talant.

Even then it could be hit or miss as with Cade but the reality is you pony up or shut up.

JMHO

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Had better be ready to back it up by contributing to the Swarm or it won’t be effective in attracting worthwhile talant.

Even then it could be hit or miss as with Cade but the reality is you pony up or shut up.

JMHO

I agree 1000% too bad the majority of our fanbase can't play the put up or shut up game, they claim to be struggling to make the monthly payments on their doublewides. While they spend any disposable income on cigs, cheap liquor

 

[ICHawk2440]

Iowa will play money ball, fill gaps with cheap players and hope they hit, go after a few $$ guys but not the big fish… and they will stay right around the same place, with a little more opportunity for a bad season… but steady around 7-5 to 9-3

 

[Tom Paris]

Iowa will play money ball, fill gaps with cheap players and hope they hit, go after a few $$ guys but not the big fish… and they will stay right around the same place, with a little more opportunity for a bad season… but steady around 7-5 to 9-3

We will never have the money to buy the guys the big boys can. It would literally take a Phil Knight Iowa grad billionaire situation.

 

[ICHawk2440]

We will never have the money to buy the guys the big boys can. It would literally take a Phil Knight Iowa grad billionaire situation.

I’ll add… sully/jackson/All/Gill/Feth all made Iowa better and prolly cost way less than Cade and Brown and Proctor… IMO that’s why Iowa only has 14 recruits in n this class… get the guys you want and portal the ones you can’t get. Still Iowa stays 7-5 to 9-3

 

[HawksRule73]

Not necessarily. Look at some of the portal QBs that are having decent success…they’re from New Mexico, Ohio U, etc. They aren’t P4 cast offs that think they need millions. We need to find guys who are killing it at the G4 and are ready to move up. No more of these guys like Cade, Brown, etc.

 

[DogBoyRy]

Had better be ready to back it up by contributing to the Swarm or it won’t be effective in attracting worthwhile talant.

Even then it could be hit or miss as with Cade but the reality is you pony up or shut up.

JMHO

The new funding due to the house settlement will have dramatic impacts on nil and rosters. The top revenue schools including iowa will all separate from the lower tiers.

 

[cmhawks99]

Iowa will play money ball, fill gaps with cheap players and hope they hit, go after a few $$ guys but not the big fish… and they will stay right around the same place, with a little more opportunity for a bad season… but steady around 7-5 to 9-3

Over half of Indianas 31 transfers came from that big time transfer powerhouse program James Madison

 

[Shafthawk]

I’m doing my part.

It’s not much, but if many would do a small amount it all adds up. And it would get spent somewhere else more than likely anyway.

I enjoy watching Hawkeye Football, so it is worth the small donation to me.

 

[hawkeyemark18]

I think at a school like Iowa you have to focus on recruiting and developing talent from the high school ranks and filling in gaps with the portal. I think as things progress a good number of schools will find it more efficient to develop the talent they have and not take big risks in the portal. NIL and the portal represent recent major changes and how it all plays out will seem a work in progress for awhile I think.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Had better be ready to back it up by contributing to the Swarm or it won’t be effective in attracting worthwhile talant.

Even then it could be hit or miss as with Cade but the reality is you pony up or shut up.

JMHO

Good thing I'm not someone who says we need to hit the portal big time............


Besides, I can just let @RicoSuave102954 pay for all our recruits.

 

[WaterTower]

Had better be ready to back it up by contributing to the Swarm or it won’t be effective in attracting worthwhile talant.

Even then it could be hit or miss as with Cade but the reality is you pony up or shut up.

JMHO

Yep everyone should pony up due to KFs ability to evaluate QB talent.

 

[OILCHECKER]

When i give money or invest, i like to have say or at least some input where my money goes or how it is spent. Or if i am going to totally trust someone else, i like to know they at least have a good track record.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

The new funding due to the house settlement will have dramatic impacts on nil and rosters. The top revenue schools including iowa will all separate from the lower tiers.

Question is moving forward will Iowa make the decision to use the entire 22% or use less of it?

The way I read the decision it allows a school to allocate up to 22% of that combined revenue for paying players.

Second part of the equation is how is it split up?

Does women's X country runners get as much as men's baseball? Does a 3rd team special teams player get as much as a starting tight end?

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Over half of Indianas 31 transfers came from that big time transfer powerhouse program James Madison

And first time they played a rated team they got destroyed.

 

[denmar81]

Isn’t the majority of NIL currently going to those already on the roster and the leftovers go to adding a few players? Without more corporate dollars the addition of some new $20 a month donations won’t move the needle much.

 

[DogBoyRy]

Question is moving forward will Iowa make the decision to use the entire 22% or use less of it?

The way I read the decision it allows a school to allocate up to 22% of that combined revenue for paying players.

Second part of the equation is how is it split up?

Does women's X country runners get as much as men's baseball? Does a 3rd team special teams player get as much as a starting tight end?

Good question and still unknown.
Most think once scholarships are paid then $$ will be split by revenue in. How to calculate tv $$ will be another question.
The good news is I think with tyler barnes working with the coaches the roster will be in good shape.

 

[JerseyCityHawki]

I agree 1000% too bad the majority of our fanbase can't play the put up or shut up game, they claim to be struggling to make the monthly payments on their doublewides. While they spend any disposable income on cigs, cheap liquor

That sounds like me?

 

[Hendy hawk]

Sounds like Rico can.

 

[peacehawk]

Kill the Swarm

 

[Randall Stanhope]

I don't have the extra money for it. So instead I'll go to the forums of all the teams we play next year, and convince them not to contribute to their school's NIL.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

That sounds like me?

At least you can admit it the remaining slugs on this board are in a constant state of denial.

 

[SCHawkeye99]

Based on what I have seen this season, Im ok with Stratton and Sullivan next year. We need tall receivers who can get open. Less priority on their blocking skills.

 

[HawkLogic]

We will never have the money to buy the guys the big boys can. It would literally take a Phil Knight Iowa grad billionaire situation.

Yes and no. Iowa has the fan support to be able to put $10 surcharge per ticket to be able to fund an NIL program. 70K fans x $10 x 6 home games is $4.2 million which dwarves Swarm.


Iowa also has a large amount of donations to the athletic department that could be redirected towards NIL if the Athetic department pushed that path---I think that figure is around $17-20 million/yr.


While We do lack a Billionaire sponsor to get us to Oregon level, on top of that we have a LIberal run instituion that values Title9, Equitable outcomes, and wants more pay for Professors and Women's field hockey coach's before they even think about the Men's Football and basketball programs. I doubt the AD is as worried about keeping Iowa competitive with NIL as they are about just keeping the old status quo where most of the AD money goes towards head coaches.

 

[LukaDuka]

Yes and no. Iowa has the fan support to be able to put $10 surcharge per ticket to be able to fund an NIL program. 70K fans x $10 x 6 home games is $4.2 million which dwarves Swarm.


Iowa also has a large amount of donations to the athletic department that could be redirected towards NIL if the Athetic department pushed that path---I think that figure is around $17-20 million/yr.


While We do lack a Billionaire sponsor to get us to Oregon level, on top of that we have a LIberal run instituion that values Title9, Equitable outcomes, and wants more pay for Professors and Women's field hockey coach's before they even think about the Men's Football and basketball programs. I doubt the AD is as worried about keeping Iowa competitive with NIL as they are about just keeping the old status quo where most of the AD money goes towards head coaches.

Better on field productivity puts butts in seats & creates more revenue & compels boosters to donate more. Need to spend money to make money is true more so now than ever. If Iowa football were to make the playoffs & keep advancing, that's even more money for the Athletic Department to spend on athletes.

 

[kmurp]

Yes and no. Iowa has the fan support to be able to put $10 surcharge per ticket to be able to fund an NIL program. 70K fans x $10 x 6 home games is $4.2 million which dwarves Swarm.


Iowa also has a large amount of donations to the athletic department that could be redirected towards NIL if the Athetic department pushed that path---I think that figure is around $17-20 million/yr.


While We do lack a Billionaire sponsor to get us to Oregon level, on top of that we have a LIberal run instituion that values Title9, Equitable outcomes, and wants more pay for Professors and Women's field hockey coach's before they even think about the Men's Football and basketball programs. I doubt the AD is as worried about keeping Iowa competitive with NIL as they are about just keeping the old status quo where most of the AD money goes towards head coaches.

I think Title 9 is a law that they have to follow. They may want more pay for professors ( education is their mission) but I wasn’t aware that the school was using FB revenue to pay for that. Are they? I suppose they could cut the field hockey coach salary but that wouldn’t make a dent. I agree that new donations should go to NIL but wonder if some of that annual figure is existing pledges to facility improvements.

 

[hawkeyemark18]

Based on what I have seen this season, Im ok with Stratton and Sullivan next year. We need tall receivers who can get open. Less priority on their blocking skills.

Why less priority on the WR blocking? The blocking by our wideouts has played a key part in opening up some of the big runs this season. It has played a noticeable part in the big improvement in our overall efficiency on offense.

 

[IowaMuse]

I agree 1000% too bad the majority of our fanbase can't play the put up or shut up game, they claim to be struggling to make the monthly payments on their doublewides. While they spend any disposable income on cigs, cheap liquor

What an idiot who places way too much emphasis on sports. Meatheads will be meatheads.

Give money to the literature and arts programs. That’s where Iowa is the best of the best. And it actually means more than a football score.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

What an idiot who places way too much emphasis on sports. Meatheads will be meatheads.

Give money to the literature and arts programs. That’s where Iowa is the best of the best. And it actually means more than a football score.

LOL - Network tv says differently

 

[curtisj157]

Had better be ready to back it up by contributing to the Swarm or it won’t be effective in attracting worthwhile talant.

Even then it could be hit or miss as with Cade but the reality is you pony up or shut up.

JMHO

Won’t matter unless there are huge individual donors. That’s why we need to add $10 per ticket to go awards NIL. Approx $700k/game and $5.6 million over an 8 game home season,
That’s the only way. Tennessee is adding a 10% talent fee to tickets starting next year. That will be about $1 million per game going to get players.

 

[Dr. Phil Seuss]

Why less priority on the WR blocking? The blocking by our wideouts has played a key part in opening up some of the big runs this season. It has played a noticeable part in the big improvement in our overall efficiency on offense.

sure would be nice if Iowa could recruit a receiver that can block AND be effective as a receiver. Pretty incredible how bad Iowa was at finding guys that can do both in the Ferentz Family offensive era.

 

[Max_Rebo]

I’m old enough to remember when the thing Iowa needed to be able to compete with the top programs was a new modern basketball arena. So the university went to the big donors, raised money, and built Carver-Hawkeye Arena.

Then, a few years later, the thing we needed was an indoor practice facility for football. Again, the university went to the guys with the deep pockets, raised the money they needed, and got it built.

Later, it was a dedicated practice facility for basketball. And once again, the big donors came through.

I guess my point it that the success of the athletic programs has always been dependent on donor support. Or at least it has been for the last 50-60 years. What’s changed is that in the past, it was the big-time donors who generally carried the weight. But now, with NIL and the Swarm Collective, average joe fans are being asked to pony up (at times with their fandom being called into question.)

I’ve said before, I think any fan is free to spend their money the way they want to. I’m not a Swarm member, but I’ve supported the program by buying some of the Swarm beer, and I may do so again the next time I’m in Iowa. Maybe by then, there will be another Swarm product I’d like to buy. I’m always looking for new gift ideas.

That said, I predict that in the end, the success of the Iowa sports establishment to build a successful NIL program will be dependent on the big donors coming through to make it happen. Just as it’s been for every other financial endeavor undertaken in support of the Hawkeye athletic program.

 

[hawkeyemark18]

sure would be nice if Iowa could recruit a receiver that can block AND be effective as a receiver. Pretty incredible how bad Iowa was at finding guys that can do both in the Ferentz Family offensive era.

Coaching and scheme have more to do with it than actual talent IMO. Gill and Buie have both looked really good as receivers and doing their part in the blocking scheme. We won't have any Lester recruits at WR untill next season when Smith comes in.

 

[joelbc1]

And first time they played a rated team they got destroyed.

Destroyed?
Interesting choice of words…

 

[Birky]

When i give money or invest, i like to have say or at least some input where my money goes or how it is spent. Or if i am going to totally trust someone else, i like to know they at least have a good track record.

Hi, Kirk, it’s Oilchecker. Hey, I donated $100. Here is my list of QBs I’m willing to accept with my NIL money.

Peace

 

[hexumhawk]

Whoever has been making the decision on QB and spending the lions share of the money, needs to be left out of that conversation going forward. There are plenty of great players out there that wont cost you $1 Mil.

 

[SCHawkeye99]

Why less priority on the WR blocking? The blocking by our wideouts has played a key part in opening up some of the big runs this season. It has played a noticeable part in the big improvement in our overall efficiency on offense.

I feel Kirk and Brian prioritized blocking potential in recruiting WR's, and blocking performance during games.
While this may have improved our run blocking by the number of bodies blocking, I don't feel we were recruiting, or playing, P5 level wide receivers who could get separation and be downfield threats.
If we did get some WR talent they often were overlooked in favor of better blocking WR's who couldnt catch a cold.
ie. Ragaini vs Jones

 

[SCHawkeye99]

Whoever has been making the decision on QB and spending the lions share of the money, needs to be left out of that conversation going forward. There are plenty of great players out there that wont cost you $1 Mil.

See: 2024 Indiana football

 

[the Donny Difference]

And first time they played a rated team they got destroyed.

IU's schedule reminds me of the Iowa teams in the old B!G West days. I didn't see any Iowa fans complaining then.

 

[Derekd3408]