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Facebook war: State or States?

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In New Jersey you go to Districts, then to Regions, then to States. Most people around the country are saying they go to State.

What say you?
 
There are multiple districts, multiple regions, but only one state.

So you've never heard anybody say they qualified for states? I'm dumbfounded by this. I didn't realize I was in such a minority.

Are we getting ready for Big Ten and then National? I could swear everybody I know is talking about Big Tens and Nationals.
 
In Iowa, we say "pop", some say "Warshington", and we all say "state". This "states" stuff seems to be a northeastern thing. Probably a little like "soda".

Do you say Big Tens and Nationals?

It does seem that PA and NJ have the most States people. But Jake Herbert weighed I with States.
 
State Champ, not States Champ

Not a question. It's the State Tournament. The winner is the state champ. It's also the NCAA National Tournament, but everybody calls it Nationals, don't they?

Sort of like even though I'm going to watch one movie at the movie theatre, if somebody asks what I'm doing I'll say I'm going to the movies.
 
Do you say Big Tens and Nationals?

It does seem that PA and NJ have the most States people. But Jake Herbert weighed I with States.

Definitely just a matter of preference, but in Iowa, it's "state". That's all I got. Just the way it is.

And, by the way, I say "Big Ten" and "National".
 
In New Jersey you go to Districts, then to Regions, then to States. Most people around the country are saying they go to State.

What say you?

Honest question, do you call it states for all sports? Does a football team qualify for states? Basketball? Etc.

I'm from Iowa, so it's State for me.
 
Not a question. It's the State Tournament. The winner is the state champ. It's also the NCAA National Tournament, but everybody calls it Nationals, don't they?

Sort of like even though I'm going to watch one movie at the movie theatre, if somebody asks what I'm doing I'll say I'm going to the movies.

When you go to the Cinema you say movies (plural) because it is Cinema 12 or 20. Movies is plural because you have 12 or 20 or how many ever choices. Not just one movie, but multiple movies at one location.

At Nationals it is plural because you have 10 different weight classes with 33 wrestlers in each. Plural times plural. You have multiple matches in each different weight class. so you say Nationals. 10 different Championships.

At State it seems like it logically should be the same as Nationals.....plural times plural.....so should be States to continue the logic. However logic can be consistently inconsistent. Kind of like E after C. Which we all know is the absolute rule. Always consistent.

Except............

Not sure I have ever heard anyone refer to it as States before. Might be a regional thing.

Quite often as parents you would mostly be interested in your own child making it to state and hence the singular. You are concerned about them in their weight class and refer to it as them going to State. They only wrestle in one weight class, hence no need for plural. This is entirely consistent............

unless you have twins of course......:)
 
Their states champs pound our state champs. Maybe we should start calling it states.
 
Honest question, do you call it states for all sports? Does a football team qualify for states? Basketball? Etc.

I'm from Iowa, so it's State for me.

Yeah, I call it States for football, too. Makes some sense because there are six state champions, though.

Clearly a regional thing. If youz guys want to call it just State I warsh my hands I'd it...
 
Everyone here in PA that I know says "States" as do I. Never really thought about it though. We call our individual tournament,whether you're talking about AA or AAA, the State Championships...plural. When we cut it down, we do the same..States...plural.
 
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In Iowa, we say "pop", some say "Warshington", and we all say "state". This "states" stuff seems to be a northeastern thing. Probably a little like "soda".
I was raised in western Pennsylvania and I too say pop. Not sure where my parents got it from because they too were raised here. There are others around here that say pop as well but more times than not you get a chuckle ( yes AZ, I mentioned chuckles) from someone who hears you say it.
 
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Yeah, I call it States for football, too. Makes some sense because there are six state champions, though.

Clearly a regional thing. If youz guys want to call it just State I warsh my hands I'd it...

Crazyness.

However, I hate when people say 'Warshigton'. As someone who grew up in Washington, Iowa, there is nothing more annoying than when people add an R to wash. Ugh.
 
I was raised in western Pennsylvania and I too say pop. Not sure where my parents got it from because they too were raised here. There are others around here that say pop as well but more times than not you get a chuckle ( yes AZ, I mentioned chuckles) from someone who hears you say it.

For the record, since I've lived all over the place I ask for a "soft drink" which seems to work everywhere. Although I spent 21 years in Iowa "pop" now really strikes my ears odd.

Like "qualifying for state".
:)
 
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Crazyness.

However, I hate when people say 'Warshigton'. As someone who grew up in Washington, Iowa, there is nothing more annoying than when people add an R to wash. Ugh.

But unless you never refer to "the NCAAs" or "Nationals", I'm not sure why it would seem odd. There will be multiple champions, after all. If I'm not mistaken, in Iowa there are three separate tournaments and 42 state champions.
 
But unless you never refer to "the NCAAs" or "Nationals", I'm not sure why it would seem odd. There will be multiple champions, after all. If I'm not mistaken, in Iowa there are three separate tournaments and 42 state champions.

Exactly. STATE Champion (not States Champion). Just like Iowa is going to be National Champions (not Nationals Champions).

Crazy East Coasters... You probably call suckers, lollipops too.
 
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I've never heard anyone in the Midwest call it states. That's definitely an east coast thing.

Ever heard anyone from the east coast say the word tournament?
 
I've never heard anyone in the Midwest call it states. That's definitely an east coast thing.

Ever heard anyone from the east coast say the word tournament?

Toy-na-ment. You go to state (singular. One state, one tourney). You go to nationals, multiple tournaments because of multiple divisions, multiple locations. If a Div 3 guy says he is going to nationals to wrestle, does he mean NYC?
 
Toy-na-ment. You go to state (singular. One state, one tourney). You go to nationals, multiple tournaments because of multiple divisions, multiple locations. If a Div 3 guy says he is going to nationals to wrestle, does he mean NYC?

Ha exactly...especially the jersey boys.

How about this one..is it. Cadet and junior nationals or Fargo? We've always just called it Fargo. If they ever moved it I'd be awfully confused.
 
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Art Radley clearly isn't an Iowan. His whole persona is starting to make sense.

I've never heard of anyone going to the states tournament or winning thr states championship.
 
Huh...never put any thought into it. Here in PA, I just had a conversation with a friend last week that "I can't make it down to states this year". He knew without question, and probably without any thought into it at all, exactly what I meant. It's just what it is here.
 
Most of Western Michigan (where I live) it is "state." On the East side of the state I often hear "states." It drives me nuts.

My brother have taken to calling it "stateSSS" and "game" just to poke fun at the weirdness.
 
Toy-na-ment. You go to state (singular. One state, one tourney). You go to nationals, multiple tournaments because of multiple divisions, multiple locations. If a Div 3 guy says he is going to nationals to wrestle, does he mean NYC?
Here's another regional difference, although this one is just a pronunciation thing. In the NE, it's "TORE-nament". Pretty much everywhere else, it's "TUR-nament". Of course, the latter is correct.
 
State Champ, not States Champ

Brent Metcalf wants to go to the Olympics in hopes of becoming an Olympic champ, no?

Remember how successful Kyle Snyder was at Worlds? He became a World champ.

Back in the 80s and 90s, when Iowa sent guys to nationals, they often became national champs.

Are you hosting BigTens in a couple of weeks or Big Ten?

I'm being a smart ass, but that's a sincere question. Do "Olympics," "nationals" and "Big Tens" sound as weird to you as "states"?
 
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Art Radley clearly isn't an Iowan. His whole persona is starting to make sense.

I've never heard of anyone going to the states tournament or winning thr states championship.

Never said anybody uses those terms. What I've said is that The State Championships is often referred to as, simply, States. Just as the NCAA National Championships is referred to as Nationals.
 
For the record, since I've lived all over the place I ask for a "soft drink" which seems to work everywhere. Although I spent 21 years in Iowa "pop" now really strikes my ears odd.

Like "qualifying for state".
:)
"soft drink"
What is that like a wine cooler?
Vodka tonics and if you must have some carbonation, vodka redbull.

And it's "state", "pop", "Big10s" and "NCAAs".
 
Pop is fine, but asking for a Coke would be the correct way to ask ie:

Waitress: What can I get you to drink?
Me: I'll just have a Coke.
Waitress: Is Pepsi okay?
Me: Would it be okay for me to pay with Monopoly money?

Now I see the problem, maybe pop would be less confrontational.
Going forward, let's just agree on: Big Tens = BeeYaaT's, Nationals = The shizzle and State = State.
 
why is this even a discussion?i wish you people would quit quoting spooner, everytime I see anything from him I just want to give him a swirly.if I see him at "nationalS" his head is going in the toilet.
 
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