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Florida has a brand new high-speed train; and the first fatality from being hit by said high-speed train....

I used to ride the South Florida Tri-Rail to commute from Palm Beach County to downtown Miami.

Be careful what you wish for.
As Greyhound ads used to say, “Leave the driving to us.”
Sleep, chill, surf HORT, play cards, maybe grub and sip a few. Forget about gridlock and bozo drivers.
 
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I haven’t ridden on a train since the 70’s but I think I would again if it was one of them there newfangled high speed thingamajiggies.
 
As Greyhound ads used to say, “Leave the driving to us.”
Sleep, chill, surf HORT, play cards, maybe grub and sip a few. Forget about gridlock and bozo drivers.
My own sense is that the proliferation of Uber and Lyft make this a lot more doable into American cities now.

Hopefully a Jax to New Orleans route comes in and links the Gulf coast to Miami.
 
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My own sense is that the proliferation of Uber and Lyft make this a lot more doable into American cities now.

Hopefully a Jax to New Orleans route comes in and links the Gulf coast to Miami.
My old man put me on that line from J-ville to Tally after watching the old AFL all star game at the Gator Bowl in the ‘60s. It was cool as hell as a kid to do that ride solo.
That route died when a hurricane knocked out the tracks near Pensacola (?). Maybe Katrina.
It would be awesome to see it resurrected. Many who run I-10 would prolly at least wonder about riding that train.
 
My old man put me on that line from J-ville to Tally after watching the old AFL all star game at the Gator Bowl in the ‘60s. It was cool as hell as a kid to do that ride solo.
That route died when a hurricane knocked out the tracks near Pensacola (?). Maybe Katrina.
It would be awesome to see it resurrected. Many who run I-10 would prolly at least wonder about riding that train.
I’d ride it. That I-10 drive through north Florida and before Mobile is brutal.
 
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My own sense is that the proliferation of Uber and Lyft make this a lot more doable into American cities now.

Hopefully a Jax to New Orleans route comes in and links the Gulf coast to Miami.
It’s been out near NOLA since Katrina in ‘05 if I’m remembering correctly. Needs to come back.
 
It’s been out near NOLA since Katrina in ‘05 if I’m remembering correctly. Needs to come back.
With the right of way in place I’d think it will become Brightlined in time.
Would go to more concerts if it was train ride from Tally to Jax/Orlando/Tampa/New Orleans.
 
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I’m sure the ridership will increase- and I wish we’d get train service from Jax all the way to New Orleans like we had pre-Katrina.
 
I used to live right near those tracks in PBC and drove past there last week. There is very little infrastructure separating the train tracks from cars and, at some intersections, pedestrians. The 23rd avenue crossing in Boynton Beach has slightly more infrastructure than a rural crossing. There are car arms on only one of the two lanes of traffic. There are however new video boards next to the sidewalks in both directions with a message for the suicide hotline.

Back when those tracks were used only for freight trains, there would be occasional collisions from people trying to beat the train. Twenty years ago, on the major streets, they put up the double arms so cars couldn't be driven around in the oncoming lane to get across the tracks. Now that the train is going much faster people trying to beat the train are finding out that this isn't the same as a freight train.


Updated list of fatalities. Many are the same as it has always been on those tracks, cars trying to beat the train


Suicides are 7% of Brightline deaths

Old article about two Boynton Beach fatalities. It notes that it is a highly walkable area with condos, shops and restaurants. People are regularly seen crossing the tracks on foot even as a train is approaching, This train runs through one walkable downtown district after another. Downtown Delray Beach has some very busy sidewalk restaurants and bars on either side of the Atlantic Ave crossing. Hopefully there are more barriers there.



Downtown Boynton Beach crossing at Ocean Avenue

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The comments though, lol. And 100 people killed or whatever it is in 6 years seems.....like a lot right?
It certainly seems like a lot, because we don’t talk much about 40k+ KIA and 2mm+ WIA each year from cars, so it’s difficult to put in perspective.

Blew my mind when I saw the other day that 1 in 8 FD responses are to a highway vehicle fire. That seems crazy high.
 
August 2022......25 million dollar federal grant to improve Brightline safety. This will ultimately be the answer. The federal government will fund the safety infrastructure improvements that should have been required from the company prior to initiating high speed service.


328 crossings in South Florida

October 2023.....Mayor Pete pledges more money for Brightline safety
 
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August 2022......25 million dollar federal grant to improve Brightline safety. This will ultimately be the answer. The federal government will fund the safety infrastructure improvements that should have been required from the company prior to initiating high speed service.
The federal government is going to spend 25 million dollars trying to save dumbasses from dumbassery.
ROI seems poor.
 
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Sure but it's a train. You know exactly where it's going to go and when it's approaching. It's not like the train left the tracks to run someone over
I’m not advocating anything, just seemed like a lot is all. I’m sure most, if not all of the fatalities are in no way the fault of the train itself.
 
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I used to live right near those tracks in PBC and drove past there last week. There is very little infrastructure separating the train tracks from cars and, at some intersections, pedestrians. The 23rd avenue crossing in Boynton Beach has slightly more infrastructure than a rural crossing. There are car arms on only one of the two lanes of traffic. There are however new video boards next to the sidewalks in both directions with a message for the suicide hotline.

Back when those tracks were used only for freight trains, there would be occasional collisions from people trying to beat the train. Twenty years ago, on the major streets, they put up the double arms so cars couldn't be driven around in the oncoming lane to get across the tracks. Now that the train is going much faster people trying to beat the train are finding out that this isn't the same as a freight train.


Updated list of fatalities. Many are the same as it has always been on those tracks, cars trying to beat the train


Suicides are 7% of Brightline deaths

Old article about two Boynton Beach fatalities. It notes that it is a highly walkable area with condos, shops and restaurants. People are regularly seen crossing the tracks on foot even as a train is approaching, This train runs through one walkable downtown district after another. Downtown Delray Beach has some very busy sidewalk restaurants and bars on either side of the Atlantic Ave crossing. Hopefully there are more barriers there.



Downtown Boynton Beach crossing at Ocean Avenue

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Craziness that the City/County/State hasn’t upgraded the existing arms and equipment to prevent this.
 
August 2022......25 million dollar federal grant to improve Brightline safety. This will ultimately be the answer. The federal government will fund the safety infrastructure improvements that should have been required from the company prior to initiating high speed service.


328 crossings in South Florida

October 2023.....Mayor Pete pledges more money for Brightline safety
Many of us on the East Coast of FL are familiar with the train tracks that have paralleled US 1 for over 100 years, courtesy of Henry Flagler. It’s not like they just popped up. They run alongside Dixie Highway through Miami for heavens sake. I can hear trains running sometimes late at night even though I live over a mile east of the tracks here in Jacksonville.

Some people will never ever learn to swim out of the shallow end of the gene pool and thus will believe they are smarter than a train. Darwin would not agree.
 
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ORLANDO, Fla. —
Florida's high-speed passenger train service suffered the first fatality on its new extension to Orlando on Thursday when a pedestrian was struck in what appears to be a suicide, officials said. Overall, it was Brightline's 99th death since it began operations six years ago.

A northbound Brightline train headed to Orlando struck the 25-year-old man shortly before 9 a.m. near the Atlantic Coast city of Fort Pierce, St. Lucie County Sheriff Ken Mascara said at a news conference. He said the man was homeless and appeared to have intentionally stepped in front of the train.

Brightline’s trains travel up to 79 mph in urban areas, 110 mph in less-populated regions and 125 mph through central Florida’s farmland. It is unknown how fast this train was traveling, Mascara said.

Brightline officials did not immediately respond to emails and phone calls seeking comment.

Related: Brightline’s high-speed rail service from Miami to Orlando starts Friday

Brightline opened its extension connecting Miami and Orlando on Friday, though the celebration was marred when a pedestrian was struck by one of the company's trains carrying commuters from West Palm Beach to Miami.

Brightline trains have had the highest death rate in the U.S. since its Miami-West Palm operations began — about one death for every 32,000 miles its trains travel, according to an ongoing Associated Press analysis of federal data that began in 2019. The next-worst major railroad has a fatality every 130,000 miles.


But we're "saving the planet" amirite?
Somebody also died a couple blocks from my house yesterday in front of the Metra Train. It's pretty slow, so people are thinking it's probably a suicide. It happens pretty frequently. I have to believe the rate of fatalities is higher than what they have listed here.
 
I used to ride the South Florida Tri-Rail years ago, and people committing suicide-by-train was common.

This fvcked up everybody's day because the train was not allowed to move until the investigation was over. Everyone onboard was a potential witness, so no one was allowed off the train.

You. Just. Had. To. Sit. There. And. Wait.

Fvck commuter trains.
Suicide by train is the most common form of suicide in Japan. The suicide rate in Japan is incredibly high. Conductors on the trains go check for dead bodies at the front and back if the train at every stop. If you have travelled to Japan or will do so pay attention at the stops and you will see them do it
 
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My old man put me on that line from J-ville to Tally after watching the old AFL all star game at the Gator Bowl in the ‘60s. It was cool as hell as a kid to do that ride solo.
That route died when a hurricane knocked out the tracks near Pensacola (?). Maybe Katrina.
It would be awesome to see it resurrected. Many who run I-10 would prolly at least wonder about riding that train.
Sure miss that train from Tally to Nola.
 
There is far more infrastructure protecting drivers from doing stupid things to harm themselves at all of the bridges over the Intracoastal than there are at any of the numerous high speed rail crossings.

 
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