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Florida ranks at top for conspiracy theorizing and gullible residents

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Can't say I'm surprised.

Maybe Florida's nickname should be the "Deep State"?

A report by Oddspedia, a sports-betting and data-tools website, lists Florida as America's No. 1 conspiracy theory "hotspot," followed by those in California, while the Sunshine State's residents "ranked as the second-most gullible."

"In the lead-up to the 2024 US elections, conspiracy theories have entrenched themselves as a notable element of American political discourse," the Oddspedia report concluded. "The impact of these theories on the presidential race is noteworthy, with the potential to either bolster or undermine a candidate’s credibility."

 
Definitely a lot of people in Florida duped by the Hillary campaign’s Russia hoax.

Some to this day still cling to the conspiracy, despite the facts of its origins having been established by public investigations.
 
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Definitely a lot of people in Florida duped by the Hillary campaign’s Russia hoax.

Some to this day still cling to the conspiracy, despite the facts of its origins having been established by public investigations.

Describe the russia hoax from the Hillary campaign.
 
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One of the biggest conspiracy theorist.... (with another in the background)

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Can't say I'm surprised.

Maybe Florida's nickname should be the "Deep State"?

A report by Oddspedia, a sports-betting and data-tools website, lists Florida as America's No. 1 conspiracy theory "hotspot," followed by those in California, while the Sunshine State's residents "ranked as the second-most gullible."

"In the lead-up to the 2024 US elections, conspiracy theories have entrenched themselves as a notable element of American political discourse," the Oddspedia report concluded. "The impact of these theories on the presidential race is noteworthy, with the potential to either bolster or undermine a candidate’s credibility."

Been here my whole life except ages 18-28. It’s sad what has happened in this once purple state over the last 8-10 years. It has become a Mecca for the dumbest of dumb trashiest people. And we already were pretty ****ing Florida Man dumb to start with.

The wife and I and youngest took a trip to Providence and Newport RI and were struck how nice everyone was and how normal people were. No morbid obesity or gravy seals or lunatics driving around in MAGA trucks anywhere. Not sure how the script flipped where people are kinder and nicer in the northeast than in the south, but here we are. The wife and I realized we likely will move from Florida when we retired, depending on where the children end up of course. My 22 and 18 year old both plan to move out of state. The 12 year old wants to go now. Between the shift in demographics and increased costs from hurricane’s, Florida has a cliff approaching.
 
Describe the russia hoax from the Hillary campaign.


The trial of former Clinton campaign attorney Michael Sussmann crossed a critical threshold Friday when a key witness uttered the name “Hillary Clinton” in conjunction with a plan to spread the false Alfa Bank Russian collusion claim before the 2016 presidential election.

For Democrats and many in the media, Hillary Clinton has long held a Voldemort-like status as “She who must not be named” in scandals. Yet, there was her former campaign manager, Robby Mook, telling a jury that Clinton personally approved a plan to spread the claim of covert communications between the Trump organization and the Russian bank. It was one of the most successful disinformation campaigns in American politics, and Mook implicated Clinton as green-lighting the gas-lighting of the electorate.



On July 28, 2016, then-CIA Director John Brennan briefed President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s alleged plan to tie Donald Trump to Russia as “a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server.” Obama reportedly was told how Clinton allegedly approved “a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisers to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian security service.”

Thus, Mook testified that Clinton did precisely what Brennan warned Obama was being planned.

The date of Brennan’s warning is important: It was three days before the FBI’s collusion investigation began
. It also was a couple of months before Sussmann contacted then-FBI general counsel Jim Baker while claiming he was not representing any client. (He was counsel to the Clinton campaign and, according to prosecutors, billed the meeting time to the campaign.)

There is a strikingly familiar pattern in both the Steele dossier — which became the basis for the Russia collusion investigation — and the Alfa Bank tale. Campaign associates developed both claims while actively seeking to conceal their connections from the public and the government, including reportedly denying the funding of the Steele dossier and concealing that funding as legal costs.

The campaign then pushed these unfounded claims to the media and the FBI. Indeed, prosecutors this week contended that Sussmann continued to push the Alfa Bank claims after Trump was elected, in an apparent effort to fuel the Russia collusion claims being breathlessly reported in the media at the time.

When Clinton allegedly approved this effort, at least some people connected to her campaign were aware that the Alfa Bank theory was never viewed as credible by researchers tasked with supporting it. Those researchers had warned that it would be easy to “poke several holes” in the claim, according to prosecutors, and that the data could be seen as “a red herring.” Yet, trial witnesses admitted that they hoped the media would make the claims stick.
 
I don’t believe this. The Palm Beach Post is just reporting random information from completely non-credible sources. Oddspedia? Come on. We all know they have an agenda to undermine independent thought and want us all to fall in line for the common good!
 
Florida had a huge increase in population post covid due to northerners wanting more "freedums" that Florida offered. Unfortunately we got the numbnuts and wingnuts. Now I am hoping that trend changes and soon.
 
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The trial of former Clinton campaign attorney Michael Sussmann crossed a critical threshold Friday when a key witness uttered the name “Hillary Clinton” in conjunction with a plan to spread the false Alfa Bank Russian collusion claim before the 2016 presidential election.

For Democrats and many in the media, Hillary Clinton has long held a Voldemort-like status as “She who must not be named” in scandals. Yet, there was her former campaign manager, Robby Mook, telling a jury that Clinton personally approved a plan to spread the claim of covert communications between the Trump organization and the Russian bank. It was one of the most successful disinformation campaigns in American politics, and Mook implicated Clinton as green-lighting the gas-lighting of the electorate.



On July 28, 2016, then-CIA Director John Brennan briefed President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s alleged plan to tie Donald Trump to Russia as “a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server.” Obama reportedly was told how Clinton allegedly approved “a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisers to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian security service.”

Thus, Mook testified that Clinton did precisely what Brennan warned Obama was being planned.

The date of Brennan’s warning is important: It was three days before the FBI’s collusion investigation began
. It also was a couple of months before Sussmann contacted then-FBI general counsel Jim Baker while claiming he was not representing any client. (He was counsel to the Clinton campaign and, according to prosecutors, billed the meeting time to the campaign.)

There is a strikingly familiar pattern in both the Steele dossier — which became the basis for the Russia collusion investigation — and the Alfa Bank tale. Campaign associates developed both claims while actively seeking to conceal their connections from the public and the government, including reportedly denying the funding of the Steele dossier and concealing that funding as legal costs.

The campaign then pushed these unfounded claims to the media and the FBI. Indeed, prosecutors this week contended that Sussmann continued to push the Alfa Bank claims after Trump was elected, in an apparent effort to fuel the Russia collusion claims being breathlessly reported in the media at the time.

When Clinton allegedly approved this effort, at least some people connected to her campaign were aware that the Alfa Bank theory was never viewed as credible by researchers tasked with supporting it. Those researchers had warned that it would be easy to “poke several holes” in the claim, according to prosecutors, and that the data could be seen as “a red herring.” Yet, trial witnesses admitted that they hoped the media would make the claims stick.


Hackers invade Dems’ servers, steal entire Trump opposition file

Intrusion was so thorough it exposed almost a year's worth of e-mail and chats.

DAN GOODIN - 6/14/2016, 1:40 PM

A hack on the Democratic National Committee has given attackers access to a massive trove of data, including all opposition research into presidential candidate Donald Trump and almost a year's worth of private e-mail and chat messages, according to a published report.

In an article published Wednesday, The Washington Post reported that researchers with CrowdStrike, the security firm DNC officials hired to investigate and contain the breach, determined the intrusions were carried out by two separate hacker groups that both worked for the Russian government. One, dubbed Cozy Bear, gained access last summer and has been monitoring committee members' e-mail and chat communications. The other is known as Fancy Bear and is believed to have broken into the network in late April. It was the latter intrusion that obtained the entire database of Trump opposition and later tipped off IT team members the network may have been breached.
The DNC intrusion is just one of several targeting US political organizations, the WaPo said, with the networks of Trump, rival presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, and some republican political action committees also being targeted by Russian spies. Details about those campaigns weren't available. The hackers who penetrated the DNC network were expelled last weekend. No financial and donor information appears to have been taken, leaving analysts to suspect the attack was a case of traditional espionage and not the work of criminal hackers. According to Wednesday's report:


The intrusions are an example of Russia’s interest in the U.S. political system and its desire to understand the policies, strengths and weaknesses of a potential future president—much as American spies gather similar information on foreign candidates and leaders.
The depth of the penetration reflects the skill and determination of the United States’ top cyber adversary as Russia goes after strategic targets, from the White House and State Department to political campaign organizations.
“It’s the job of every foreign intelligence service to collect intelligence against their adversaries,” said Shawn Henry, president of CrowdStrike, the cyber firm called in to handle the DNC breach and a former head of the FBI’s cyber division. He noted that it is extremely difficult for a civilian organization to protect itself from a skilled and determined state such as Russia.
“We’re perceived as an adversary of Russia,” he said. “Their job when they wake up every day is to gather intelligence against the policies, practices and strategies of the U.S. government. There are a variety of ways. [Hacking] is one of the more valuable because it gives you a treasure trove of information.”
Russian President Vladimir Putin has spoken favorably about Trump, who has called for better relations with Russia and expressed skepticism about NATO. But unlike Clinton, whom the Russians probably have long had in their spy sights, Trump has not been a politician for very long, so foreign agencies are playing catch-up, analysts say.
“The purpose of such intelligence gathering is to understand the target’s proclivities,” said Robert Deitz, former senior councillor to the CIA director and a former general counsel at the National Security Agency. “Trump’s foreign investments, for example, would be relevant to understanding how he would deal with countries where he has those investments” should he be elected, Deitz said. “They may provide tips for understanding his style of negotiating. In short, this sort of intelligence could be used by Russia, for example, to indicate where it can get away with foreign adventurism.”

 
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Yep, people in this very thread not aware of Brennan’s revelation to Obama about the Hillary campaign’s effort.
The facts are out there, but it probably doesn’t get heavy rotation on MSNBC, etc.

Russia-linked phishing campaign behind the DNC breach also hit Podesta, Powell

Bit.ly-based phishing links targeted former Sec. of State, Clinton campaign chair.

SEAN GALLAGHER - 10/20/2016, 6:40 PM

The breach of personal e-mail accounts for Clinton presidential campaign chairman John Podesta and former Secretary of State Colin Powell have now been tied more closely to other breaches involving e-mail accounts for Democratic party political organizations. Podesta and Powell were both the victims of the same form of spear-phishing attack that affected individuals whose data was shared through the “hacktivist” sites of Guccifer 2.0 and DCLeaks.
As Ars reported in July, the spear-phishing attack used custom-coded Bit.ly shortened URLs containing the e-mail addresses of their victims. The URLs appeared in e-mails disguised to look like warnings from Google about the victims’ accounts. These spear-phishing attacks were tracked by the security firm SecureWorks as part of the firm’s tracking of the “Fancy Bear” threat group (also known as APT28), a hacking operation previously tied to a phishing campaign against military and diplomatic targets known as Operation Pawn Storm.

Democratic Party’s congressional fundraising committee was also hacked

DCCC's website redirected donors to a fake contribution page controlled by attackers.

SEAN GALLAGHER - 7/29/2016, 11:00 AM

Yet another cyber-attack has targeted a Democratic Party organization—or more specifically, the party's donors. Reuters reports that the FBI is investigating a breach of the systems of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. While the details of the alleged intrusion were not revealed, visitors to the DCCC's site were apparently redirected to a malicious lookalike website mimicking the DCCC contribution page.

Visitors to the DCCC page who clicked a link to donate were directed to a look-alike domain name registered in June instead of the site of a donation processing contractor. The IP address of the fake site "resembled one used by Russian government-linked hackers suspected in the breach of the DNC," Reuters' Joseph Menn, Dustin Volz, and Mark Hosenball reported. Data collected included donor's contact information, e-mail addresses, and possibly credit card information.

It is not clear whether the attackers were after financial information for credit card fraud, or if they were collecting personal data for use in directed attacks against donors. But the attack's timing—or at least the registration of the domain used in the attack—matches up with the recent discovery of a Democratic National Committee breach. The DCCC shares office space with the DNC in Washington.
 
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Hackers invade Dems’ servers, steal entire Trump opposition file

Intrusion was so thorough it exposed almost a year's worth of e-mail and chats.

DAN GOODIN - 6/14/2016, 1:40 PM

A hack on the Democratic National Committee has given attackers access to a massive trove of data, including all opposition research into presidential candidate Donald Trump and almost a year's worth of private e-mail and chat messages, according to a published report.

In an article published Wednesday, The Washington Post reported that researchers with CrowdStrike, the security firm DNC officials hired to investigate and contain the breach, determined the intrusions were carried out by two separate hacker groups that both worked for the Russian government. One, dubbed Cozy Bear, gained access last summer and has been monitoring committee members' e-mail and chat communications. The other is known as Fancy Bear and is believed to have broken into the network in late April. It was the latter intrusion that obtained the entire database of Trump opposition and later tipped off IT team members the network may have been breached.
The DNC intrusion is just one of several targeting US political organizations, the WaPo said, with the networks of Trump, rival presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, and some republican political action committees also being targeted by Russian spies. Details about those campaigns weren't available. The hackers who penetrated the DNC network were expelled last weekend. No financial and donor information appears to have been taken, leaving analysts to suspect the attack was a case of traditional espionage and not the work of criminal hackers. According to Wednesday's report:
On July 28, 2016, then-CIA Director John Brennan briefed President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s alleged plan to tie Donald Trump to Russia as “a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server.” Obama reportedly was told how Clinton allegedly approved “a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisers to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian security service.”

Thus, Mook testified that Clinton did precisely what Brennan warned Obama was being planned.

The date of Brennan’s warning is important: It was three days before the FBI’s collusion investigation began.
 
Definitely a lot of people in Florida duped by the Hillary campaign’s Russia hoax.

Some to this day still cling to the conspiracy, despite the facts of its origins having been established by public investigations.
Russian bot didn't read the Mueller Report. Take your BS back to Moscow, Yuri.
 
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There are certainly some stupid Floridian posters who think that: “Paul Manafort's role as chairman of the Trump campaign, his longstanding ties to people affiliated with Russian intelligence services and his willingness to share information with them "represented a grave counterintelligence threat" during the 2016 presidential race, according to a new report from the Senate Intelligence Committee.

"The Committee found that Manafort's presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump campaign," according to the nearly 1,000-page report released Tuesday.”

= a hoax

 
Been here my whole life except ages 18-28. It’s sad what has happened in this once purple state over the last 8-10 years. It has become a Mecca for the dumbest of dumb trashiest people. And we already were pretty ****ing Florida Man dumb to start with.

The wife and I and youngest took a trip to Providence and Newport RI and were struck how nice everyone was and how normal people were. No morbid obesity or gravy seals or lunatics driving around in MAGA trucks anywhere. Not sure how the script flipped where people are kinder and nicer in the northeast than in the south, but here we are. The wife and I realized we likely will move from Florida when we retired, depending on where the children end up of course. My 22 and 18 year old both plan to move out of state. The 12 year old wants to go now. Between the shift in demographics and increased costs from hurricane’s, Florida has a cliff approaching.

Every day I go back and forth between staying or moving to a sane blue state, or to another country. The freedum crowd has made this place pretty much unlivable.
 
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