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Fourth UI Presidential Candidate Savaged by angry academics

Just so you know Pol Sci class of 94

The people at the University for the most part have not worked in the business world and their experiences might be a little sheltered. Someone from a fresh perspective could be good.
 
Yeah, I thought after I posted that the frat comparison wasn't best and should have seen that some here would be unable to parse it. Let me try it another way. Suppose you worked for 20 or 30 years to a fairly high level in your field, getting your promotions the hard way and one day somebody whose credentials you feel are somewhat inferior to your own slides in sideways to a position above yours. You might be pissed.

Would the posters in this thread be happy if someone with no actual business experience but significant business training in the academic world came in to run your company? Like it or not, the best person to run an academic institution is usually a person with academic experience.
 
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Would the posters in this thread be happy if someone with no actual business experience but significant business training in the academic world came in to run your company? Like it or not, the best person to run an academic institution is usually a person with academic experience.

That may be true but i don't think the private sector employees are going to act like complete assholes openly towards the new guy. I think that is the sticking point for most and would guess most would agree that a high level academic leader would be best for this position.

The difference is these guys acted like academic mafia just because he was granted an interview. You can still make your point and show some class at the same time.
 
I love how some here with the strongest positions likely never attended the University of Iowa and only really care about the athletic department. Hoping for a certain candidate because it'll really stick it to those (perceived) dirty liberal academics, rather than who would be the best fit for the University.


Is it cool if I just want the new president to be a huge sports fan and give two rat's squirts less who he sticks it to ans why?
 
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To be fair, other than MSTP, have any of you ever sat in a guest lecture or a lecture where a faculty member is presenting their own research? The questions at the end are often quite blunt and coarse (at least in the science field). challenging ideas is a good thing most of the time.
 
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To be fair, other than MSTP, have any of you ever sat in a guest lecture or a lecture where a faculty member is presenting their own research? The questions at the end are often quite blunt and coarse (at least in the science field). challenging ideas is a good thing most of the time.

Sounds like the people in academia need to get laid.
 
He taught at Harvard for 6 six years
He did go to school for at least 6 years at an IVY League School

That's 12 years being around these ruid self centered people!
 
To be fair, other than MSTP, have any of you ever sat in a guest lecture or a lecture where a faculty member is presenting their own research? The questions at the end are often quite blunt and coarse (at least in the science field). challenging ideas is a good thing most of the time.
FWIW, it happens all the time in academia. It is entirely common for a faculty member to openly and bluntly question the decisions of the administration, especially in closed door meetings. FWIW, I believe I recently read an article about similar practices at Amazin, where new ideas are frequently attacked in meetings to ensure they are sound.

If the candidate for the opening at Iowa can't articulate and defend his ideas in front of faculty members I'm not sure he is the right person for the job.
 
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As horrible as the college institutions have been with preparing students for the real world all while loading them up with huge debt that most can never repay, I would say the current t model of liberal academics running colleges is need of a big change. Burn it all down.

Just like the govt. Liberals are horrible at running anything.
 
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He taught at Harvard for 6 six years
He did go to school for at least 6 years at an IVY League School

That's 12 years being around these ruid self centered people!

Time out.

He was a adjunct lecturer at Harvard. That's the equivalent of show up for two hours a week to help in a class. It's hardly worth mentioning as any modicome of experience.
 
As horrible as the college institutions have been with preparing students for the real world all while loading them up with huge debt that most can never repay, I would say the current t model of liberal academics running colleges is need of a big change. Burn it all down.

Just like the govt. Liberals are horrible at running anything.

It didn't even take 1,300 posts for your act to get old. Congrats!
 
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A little background. I did attend the U of I and I also was employed by the U of I. Ok, that said I'm going to talk about something else. I was employed for a large corporation where making huge, massive, yellow, self propelled....alright, Caterpillar, Inc.

At one time a Foreman at Caterpillar was likely someone who worked their way up to management from the labor side of the equation. Not anymore, unless just to get them in the door they are hired as blue collar but everyone knows it's just a matter of waiting for a spot to open up. And these people are all college educated, where not all that long ago that wasn't a requirement.

Now, just speaking from my own perspective, things have gone straight down the tubes there. And this way of hiring persons in management who have to deal with laborers who are specialists in operating obscure, nutty, expensive, touchy, temperamental, insane, undependable, brilliant and dangerous machines? I think it works much better when both sides speak the same language.

So. Obviously I'm not entirely sold on even a degree, let alone a lifetime in academia, being the greatest thing on earth in all situations. But I have a feeling, that when we are talking about running a University...having a solid academic background is probably a desirable thing. And I think, that is what the crowd at the town hall was trying to say.
 
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Dispute it. None of you can. Colleges are failing. Our govt is bloated and wasteful. Liberalism is a farce.

Indisputable
You made the claim about college. Therefore, it's up to you to provide evidence to support your claim.

Have you ever written a research paper? I get the impression you're not very good at critical thinking. You seem to have a very simplistic world view.
 
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Dispute it. None of you can. Colleges are failing. Our govt is bloated and wasteful. Liberalism is a farce.

Indisputable
The problem is that you have a bunch of random sentences I this post that have nothing to do with each other. Colleges are failing? I think not. The University of Iowa and Iowa State are doing very well thank you very much. They are turning out hundreds of Doctors, Dentists, and Engineers every year, who can compete with graduates of nearly any college. How is that failing.

Your next sentence is true. However, it is certainly not the sole responsibility of Democrats. Republicans have controlled both houses of Congress for the past couple of years and haven't done very much to fix it.

Your last sentence is an opinion, nothing more. In the end, your rant disguised as a message board post contributes nothing to the discussion at hand. Congratulations.
 
So He is more qualified to President of the United State than Obama in 2008, but he cant even be President of the University of IOWA? Heck he taught more at Harvard than Obama did in Chicago.

I like this comment because the people so stridently saying a guy in the business world with no academic management experience could lead a major research and teaching university, are the same ones who go nuts on this board over a former community organizer and law professor leading the United States.
 
Also, there was plenty of conservative presence on the UI campus when I went there. I had many Joe's Place bar debates vs the Young Americans for Freedom types. There were some profs, certainly in the economics dept who were not liberal in any sense. They came from the U of Chicago Monetarist School of thought.

Methinks ICU hasn't really spent much time on the UI Campus.
 
Also, there was plenty of conservative presence on the UI campus when I went there. I had many Joe's Place bar debates vs the Young Americans for Freedom types. There were some profs, certainly in the economics dept who were not liberal in any sense. They came from the U of Chicago Monetarist School of thought.

Methinks ICU hasn't really spent much time on the UI Campus.
A good share of my colleagues are conservatives. The campus is not some hot bed of liberalism where membership in the Socialist Party of America is required as some would have you think. There are plenty of conservatives on both sides of the river.
 
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