This is the exact reason why Ohio St football only has one B1G COTY since 1979. They’ve been the class of the conference, but the award usually goes to the biggest overachiever relative to expectations among the top teams in the conference.
If your definition of the COTY is based on results then you wouldn't need a vote, just give it to the coach that winds up with the best record. To me the best coach isn't necessarily about the W/L record, granted it plays a part. But some of the best coaching I've seen are the ones that gets results even with less talented players. Some of the best and easiest coaching jobs are the ones that get the top recruits every year, yesterday Iowa beat a team that had 9 top 100 recruits on it's roster compared to just 1 on Iowa's. I'm not saying Izzo isn't a good coach but when you have that much talent to begin with it gives you an advantage over the competition.
Agreed Fran should be considered but not win it. My vote would go to Pikiell for what Rutgers has done.
Pikiell? He has 3 of his starters back and most of his squad including their best player, 10-7 in conference, 16-11 overall. Yes they have some good wins, lots of Q1, and he’s done a pretty good job but in no way is he coach of the year with as much as experience as he’s sporting.
They were picked to finish in the same spot as Iowa. They lost games to Lafayette and UMass early in the season. They don't have anyone close to a POTY candidate like everyone else in the top tier. If they end up in the top 4 of the league he absolutely deserves consideration. Like a previous poster stated, if it ended today it would probably be Gard and then Pikiell.
How the hell did you come to this? We play Illinois and Purdue twice, and our only games with the other top five teams in the big ten are on the road.
Good point, I forgot the only games Iowa had against Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Rutgers were all on the road.
All good points, he does and should have his name in the running I suppose. COTY isn't exactly predicated solely on who ends up with the best team at the end of the year lol. I think I just wanted to argue when I made my initial comment
strength of schedule
Didn't Wisconsin lose 5 of 6 seniors (Davidson came back)? And they are ahead in the standings.
As someone else above mentioned, that's why there's a vote. There are a lot of things to consider, and some things are more important to some voters than to other voters, and sometimes it depends on the season. If Wisky wins the Big Ten then it's a no-brainer. If Purdue or Illinois win, then the voters will decide if it was more impressive for Painter/Underwood to build a super strong team and keep them focused all season and lead wire-to-wire, or for a coach taking a team that was supposed to finish in the second division and instead had a very competitive season.
I agree, it’s subjective. My point was in response to those who think coaches that have more talent (again subjective) should be slighted because of that. More games to be played and it’ll be interesting. Does Fran deserve some recognition, sure, but personally not the COY.
I think CJ was a player and it would be great to have a healthy CJ, but to me the much bigger loss was Nunge. He could have provided the same role to Iowa that he has at Xavier and helped this team tremendously. To have an experienced big that can guard in the post, has 5 fouls to give and stretch the floor from the perimeter is exactly what this teams needs. Of course nobody will ever know, but without CJ and with a healthy Nunge, this team would be more like a 24-3 team.
Calm down big fella
Winning at Iowa or neb is isn't the same as pu mi etc.
Gard is scum for coaching his players - like Davison - to be the dirtiest in CBB, then to have the chutzpah to defend them, reminiscent of the Orwellian ideologues who “defend” the 1/6/21 violent and deadly mob as “legitimate political speech”.
Do you think fitz would get Coty next year if they go 5-4 in conf play, since they were so crappy last year?
The problem with that logic is the chaos created by the transfer portal. Look at Iowa. Fran PLANNED on having Nunge and CJF as starters on this years team, and Joe W could have returned as well. Thats not on Fran. He did make efforts to bring players in, unfortunately he couldn't land Robbins, (which I think was the kids mistake, because he would have been a great fit in our offense, and a rim protector). I think its fair to say losing about 70% of your offense is a lot of turnover to deal with and yet we're still just as potent on offense, even though the way we score is completely different then last year. I'd call that good coaching.....
Then you'd be mistaken, because the BIG media is indeed discussing Fran as a candidate. Watch BIG today or the BIG show with Revsine and Katz. They definetly have Fran in the conversation along with Gard, Underwood, Pikell, and Painter.......
Troll? Are you dumb or blind? There are countless posts on here of folks saying they expected a sub 500 conf record.
Filling spots is part of modern day college athletics. If you can't do it you're gonna get left behind imo.
He also said OSU beat us before the game was even played and while trying to tell others how to be a fan lol
Looks like Robbins has only played in 6 games this year with an apparent foot injury while averaging 6.5 points a game. Good thing Fran didn’t get him with that news and CJ left with his injury or Iowa would of been in trouble depending on them this season without their services. Things work out for a reason.
Violent and deadly mob? Hilarious. One person was killed. She was an unarmed, woman "protester", shot by one of the security guards. (security guard was not charged with a crime)
