fran should win CotY
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if i had a vote it'd be either Fran or Underwood.
1. Gard
2. Fran
3. Underwood
I don't think it's close really. Wisconsin was picked 10th pre season and the program was surrounded by bad press. I mean ... He lucked out having Davis make the jump he did but that was a heck of a coaching job.
2. Fran
3. Underwood
I don't think it's close really. Wisconsin was picked 10th pre season and the program was surrounded by bad press. I mean ... He lucked out having Davis make the jump he did but that was a heck of a coaching job.
Everyone keeps saying Gard should win it because Wisconsin was "picked to finish 10th" in the BIG10. I think we are giving them too much credit for that fact.
Fran is 2-5 vs. Quad 1 opponents. Gard is 8-3. I despise Wisconsin, but their Quad 1 records are what they are. Not sure how much that will play into the decision.
How is this even a discussion? I hate Wisconsin, but they won the friggin title. Iowa had a good season, but still looking up at Wisconsin like usual.
This is a surprise positive year under Fran.
But generally speaking, a 5th place conference finish, is never COY worthy.
But generally speaking, a 5th place conference finish, is never COY worthy.
Gard, Pikiell, Underwood, Fran. You can quibble a spot or two, here and there, except the top two. Those are rock solid top two.
yeah, this really isn't a question. If we did what wisconsin did this year we would be pushing for fran to be national coach of the year.
In conference play, Iowa was 1st in in B1G scoring Margin (total points vs opponent points per game) at 6.8 ppg and Wisconsin was 6th at 1.8 ppg
Yet Wisconsin won co-share of the B1G, doing the best with the least and Fran did the worst with the most.
I think Wiscoinsin under Bo Ryan, and to lessor extent under Gard, have shown their system is better designed for grinding out conference wins. This year they also had some good luck.
Fran's system is more exciting to watch, but doesn't translate into above average performance in close games or conference titles---so far in 12 years.
maybe the trend has changed under fran in recent years but we don't win the close games like wisconsin and the other elite teams do.
tied for 4th isn't close, you derpy wisconsin fanboy. How's Davidson's dick taste btw?
Unfortunately, what follows is why Greg Gard will likely get B1G Coach of the Year.
Wisconsin was picked 10th in the preseason; they finished 2nd after tie breakers and for B1G Tournament seedings.
The next 2 best coaching jobs this year?
IOWA: Picked 9th, finished 5th
Rutgers: Picked 8th, finished 4th...... @MrsScrew
The worst coaching job this year (and it's not even close)?
Michigan was picked to win the B1G; they finished 8th.
Comparing the 2021 Big Ten Media Preseason Poll (first-place votes in parenthesis) to Actual Results:
Actual.......Predicted
Finish........Finish
....1st.............3rd...Illinois 320 (3)
...2nd...........10th...Wisconsin 149
...3rd.............2nd...Purdue 373 (12)
...4th.............8th...Rutgers 208
...5th.............9th...Iowa 150
....6th............4th...Ohio State 316
....7th............6th...Michigan State 262
...8th.............1st.....Michigan 373 (13)
...9th.............7th...Indiana 219
...10th...........5th...Maryland 269
..11th.........T-12th...Penn State 81
..12th........T-12th...Northwestern 81
..13th...........11th...Nebraska 105
..14th...........14th....Minnesota 34
Wisconsin was picked 10th in the preseason; they finished 2nd after tie breakers and for B1G Tournament seedings.
The next 2 best coaching jobs this year?
IOWA: Picked 9th, finished 5th
Rutgers: Picked 8th, finished 4th...... @MrsScrew
The worst coaching job this year (and it's not even close)?
Michigan was picked to win the B1G; they finished 8th.
Comparing the 2021 Big Ten Media Preseason Poll (first-place votes in parenthesis) to Actual Results:
Actual.......Predicted
Finish........Finish
....1st.............3rd...Illinois 320 (3)
...2nd...........10th...Wisconsin 149
...3rd.............2nd...Purdue 373 (12)
...4th.............8th...Rutgers 208
...5th.............9th...Iowa 150
....6th............4th...Ohio State 316
....7th............6th...Michigan State 262
...8th.............1st.....Michigan 373 (13)
...9th.............7th...Indiana 219
...10th...........5th...Maryland 269
..11th.........T-12th...Penn State 81
..12th........T-12th...Northwestern 81
..13th...........11th...Nebraska 105
..14th...........14th....Minnesota 34
The funny thing is Frans system as you described is the polar opposite of KF, his system is not exciting , BUT he generally wins more games then projected and yet there are plenty of fans who want him out as well. I guess Iowa fans just don't get to be happy either way....
