Why the f*ck should they be allowed to change this with the election 2 months away?
A republican is holding up the vote. A REPUBLICAN.Donald Trump was still a Democrat when Nebraska Republicans started trying to change the policy. Yes, the election gives them a heightened sense of urgency. I have already acknowledged that fact. But that doesn’t change the fact that this is at least the 16th time they’ve tried to do it and the 16th time Democrats have used the filibuster to stop them.
I guess if one good thing comes out of this thread it’s that I never again have to take serious any of you guys complaining about filibusters.
So long ago, I don’t remember when
That’s when they say I lost my only friend
A Republican who was a Democrat until 5 months ago and has to keep Democrats happy because he wants to run for Mayor of Omaha.A republican is holding up the vote. A REPUBLICAN.
Sen. Mike McDonnell says he’s a no on winner-take-all ’as of today’ • Nebraska Examiner
Nebraska State Sen. Mike McDonnell of Omaha, through a spokesman, said, "as of today," he is still a no vote on shifting to winner-take-all.nebraskaexaminer.com
Still a republican. Not a filibustering dem.A Republican who was a Democrat until 5 months ago and has to keep Democrats happy because he wants to run for Mayor of Omaha.
Who held up the previous 15 votes, any of which would have changed the policy and we wouldn’t even be having this discussion right now?
Again, if any one of the previous 15 attempts to change this policy had passed, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion. McConnell didn’t block the previous 15 attempts.Still a republican. Not a filibustering dem.
He’s currently blocking this one.Again, if any one of the previous 15 attempts to change this policy had passed, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion. McConnell didn’t block the previous 15 attempts.
This one, which would be neither necessary nor even an option for him if Democrats hadn’t blocked every one of the previous 15.He’s currently blocking this one.
I don’t care about filibusters. I also don’t care about the last 15 attempts. I care about this one, that is all the sudden being threatened 45 days before the election.This one, which would be neither necessary nor even an option for him if Democrats hadn’t blocked every one of the previous 15.
Do you support filibusters?
Trump endorsed Pillen's opponent in the primary, now he needs Pillen. They are all 3 worthless pieces of shit.Not really, Graham's involvement shows it's a desperate attempt to protect Orange Jesus. As a Republican do you remember the exact point in time Graham stopped being a serious person, and became an errand boy?
I absolutely support filibusters!. Nebraska in very unique in that we have the only Unicameral in the nation. It is typically nonpartisan, at least until the last couple years, but without it it would be like 20 wolves and 10 sheep voting on what to eat. Thankfully for the sheep it takes 21 votes to end the debate.This one, which would be neither necessary nor even an option for him if Democrats hadn’t blocked every one of the previous 15.
Do you support filibusters?
Delegates shouldn’t be split. If you win the state you win all the delegates.
Or perhaps it’s time to abolish the Electoral College altogether.Republicans try to do this every time they lose Omaha, when really all states should adopt Nebraska's method.
So it is close now.33. I believe they currently have about 31 or 32 votes.
Lame. The question is why do the Republicans want to change the policy and are they getting close to being able to? TJ gonna TJ. It's fun to watch.Donald Trump was still a Democrat when Nebraska Republicans started trying to change the policy. Yes, the election gives them a heightened sense of urgency. I have already acknowledged that fact. But that doesn’t change the fact that this is at least the 16th time they’ve tried to do it and the 16th time Democrats have used the filibuster to stop them.
I guess if one good thing comes out of this thread it’s that I never again have to take serious any of you guys complaining about filibusters.
So long ago, I don’t remember when
That’s when they say I lost my only friend
Same as always: Keep all states relevant.In the year 2024, what purpose does the electoral college even serve?
I’m well aware that this is intended as an insult. But I consider it a badge of honor that me pointing out relevant facts when you guys get carried away with your hyperbole is considered “TJing” a thread.TJ gonna TJ.
Sure, TJ. There is already a devil here. No need to be his advocate.I’m well aware that this is intended as an insult. But I consider it a badge of honor that me pointing out relevant facts when you guys get carried away with your hyperbole is considered “TJing” a thread.
As you may recall, all of this nonsense started with Flick claiming that Republicans are “literally working to end democracy” by trying to switch to the same electoral process that almost every other state in America uses.
Hey, Libs, TJ is done taking you guys seriously about the thing only he was talking about.Donald Trump was still a Democrat when Nebraska Republicans started trying to change the policy. Yes, the election gives them a heightened sense of urgency. I have already acknowledged that fact. But that doesn’t change the fact that this is at least the 16th time they’ve tried to do it and the 16th time Democrats have used the filibuster to stop them.
I guess if one good thing comes out of this thread it’s that I never again have to take serious any of you guys complaining about filibusters.
So long ago, I don’t remember when
That’s when they say I lost my only friend
What does that have to do with your comments. Try better.I’m well aware that this is intended as an insult. But I consider it a badge of honor that me pointing out relevant facts when you guys get carried away with your hyperbole is considered “TJing” a thread.
As you may recall, all of this nonsense started with Flick claiming that Republicans are “literally working to end democracy” by trying to switch to the same electoral process that almost every other state in America uses.
Lol.Hey, Libs, TJ is done taking you guys seriously about the thing only he was talking about.
I get your point. Nebraska Republicans trying to change election laws that are favorable to them in this election is a Democrats fault for potentially filibustering it. Am I correct?Lol.
“We don’t want to talk about how Republicans have tried every year, every legislative session, for the past 16 years to make this change, only to have the minority Dems block it by filibuster. We would much rather pretend this a new thing that Republicans came up with specifically to help Orange Man. Because we like our fake narrative better than reality.”
If that happens they wouldn't be able to say "No!" to everything. That would drive them crazy. In a similar vein, I would like to see the Democrats get total control of everything AND ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT what they want to do...and prove me right or prove me wrong. If their policies start sending the country downhill, we can vote them out. The thing is, with filibusters and the 60 vote rule in the Senate, we never actually get to see. I mean, Biden has done a phenomenal job with the economy and infrastructure, now matter what Fox News and MAGA try to tell us. Just once I want to see them be able to actually do what they want to do. I KNOW the Republicans in Washington are afraid because they know the democrats' policies are good for the majority. I'm convinced of that otherwise they wouldn't be lying about it nonstop.
You’re not correct at all. I said that Republicans trying for the 16th year in a row to align their electoral process with 48 other states is hardly evidence of “literally working to end democracy.”I get your point. Nebraska Republicans trying to change election laws that are favorable to them in this election is a Democrats fault for potentially filibustering it. Am I correct?
You are funnyYou’re not correct at all. I said that Republicans trying for the 16th year in a row to align their electoral process with 48 other states is hardly evidence of “literally working to end democracy.”
Why do you keep making shit up?
That was a rhetorical question, btw. I already know exactly why you keep making shit up.
So we can split off 15 delegates from California into the Republican column then. Thanks.
California has every right to set up it's election laws however they want. I feel that Nebraska's system is the most fair system for the voters. Had it been changed anytime in the past, there wouldn't have been 1 dime spent in Nebraska for the Presidential election.So we can split off 15 delegates from California into the Republican column then. Thanks.
No way! Rico’s source AKA “The Voices He Hears” has bad info again? Hard to imagine!Interesting. KETV reported this morning that Graham's visit didn't really help and they still don't have enough votes for the end of September deadline.
This isn’t difficult. You are just very confused and obtuse.Once again I’m forced to ponder whether you guys even bother to read posts before responding to them.
You're right. We should either go to a full popular vote or expand the house of representatives to about 1000 and make the electoral college best of 1002. Then people will be better represented and gerrymandering won't be as much of an issue.
That’s the problem, in states that consistently are around 50/50, the GOP absolutely dominates the state legislature due to their aggressive gerrymandering. In part this is leftover from the Civil Rights era, where states put together majority black districts in order to ensure some southern blacks made it to Congress. But the downside for Democrats is that it gave state legislatures to the GOP on a silver platter.If Congressional districts were drawn fairly with absolutely no political bias, then I would be all for that system. But, they’re not and never will be. The R’s are much better at shameless gerrymandering than the D’s, so that system would give them even more of an advantage than the current Electoral College does. A Dem presidential candidate would probably need to win by at least 8 points to overcome that advantage; it’s bad enough they have to win by at least 3-4 points as it is…
The electoral college is still better than having it thrown to the House of Representatives. Republicans will win in that scenario every time because of the one-state one vote rule.You're right. We should either go to a full popular vote or expand the house of representatives to about 1000 and make the electoral college best of 1002. Then people will be better represented and gerrymandering won't be as much of an issue.
Hard for them to employ their usual tactics of character assassination, appeals to racism and demonization of the "other" when they're not running against a candidate of the other party and it's just a straight up and down vote on an individual issue.This has been an underreported story nationwide - state GOP officials fighting tooth and nail to not allow their citizens to vote on ballot measures.
This is classic TJ, just classic. The timing now is obviously because Maine can't respond, there is no other reason.I don’t see the timing as being a big deal. If this was the first time they tried it then the timing would be suspect. But they have tried repeatedly for 15 years, only to be thwarted by filibusters every time. This particular effort is just the latest in a long line of attempts to obtain a supermajority.