Why the f*ck should they be allowed to change this with the election 2 months away?
Nebraska's Electoral College
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A republican is holding up the vote. A REPUBLICAN.
Sen. Mike McDonnell says he’s a no on winner-take-all ’as of today’ • Nebraska Examiner
Nebraska State Sen. Mike McDonnell of Omaha, through a spokesman, said, "as of today," he is still a no vote on shifting to winner-take-all.
nebraskaexaminer.com
A Republican who was a Democrat until 5 months ago and has to keep Democrats happy because he wants to run for Mayor of Omaha.A republican is holding up the vote. A REPUBLICAN.
Sen. Mike McDonnell says he’s a no on winner-take-all ’as of today’ • Nebraska Examiner
Nebraska State Sen. Mike McDonnell of Omaha, through a spokesman, said, "as of today," he is still a no vote on shifting to winner-take-all.
Who held up the previous 15 votes, any of which would have changed the policy and we wouldn’t even be having this discussion right now?
Still a republican. Not a filibustering dem.
Again, if any one of the previous 15 attempts to change this policy had passed, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion. McConnell didn’t block the previous 15 attempts.
This one, which would be neither necessary nor even an option for him if Democrats hadn’t blocked every one of the previous 15.
Do you support filibusters?
I don’t care about filibusters. I also don’t care about the last 15 attempts. I care about this one, that is all the sudden being threatened 45 days before the election.
Trump endorsed Pillen's opponent in the primary, now he needs Pillen. They are all 3 worthless pieces of shit.
I absolutely support filibusters!. Nebraska in very unique in that we have the only Unicameral in the nation. It is typically nonpartisan, at least until the last couple years, but without it it would be like 20 wolves and 10 sheep voting on what to eat. Thankfully for the sheep it takes 21 votes to end the debate.
The Republicans are already going to take a hit, changing this this late will only piss off more voters across the state, and it's very very unlikely going to change the outcome of the election. Everyone knows how Republican Nebraska is right? Explain James Exon, Bob Kerrey, and Ben Nelson.
Or perhaps it’s time to abolish the Electoral College altogether.
While driving home tonight, I had an idea: in a future election where it’s clear the Democratic candidate is going to win the presidency, what if enough Democrats in red states voted Republican to give the republican candidate the popular vote but not the electoral vote? It could be one of the few ways to dismantle this deeply flawed and anti-democratic system. Republicans would finally have to confront the unfairness of the Electoral College if they experienced the pain of losing the presidency despite winning the popular vote. As it stands, they benefit too much from the current system and have no incentive to reform it unless they themselves feel the sting of its inequities.
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Lame. The question is why do the Republicans want to change the policy and are they getting close to being able to? TJ gonna TJ. It's fun to watch.
I’m well aware that this is intended as an insult. But I consider it a badge of honor that me pointing out relevant facts when you guys get carried away with your hyperbole is considered “TJing” a thread.
As you may recall, all of this nonsense started with Flick claiming that Republicans are “literally working to end democracy” by trying to switch to the same electoral process that almost every other state in America uses.
Hey, Libs, TJ is done taking you guys seriously about the thing only he was talking about.
Lol.
“We don’t want to talk about how Republicans have tried every year, every legislative session, for the past 16 years to make this change, only to have the minority Dems block it by filibuster. We would much rather pretend this a new thing that Republicans came up with specifically to help Orange Man. Because we like our fake narrative better than reality.”
I get your point. Nebraska Republicans trying to change election laws that are favorable to them in this election is a Democrats fault for potentially filibustering it. Am I correct?
You’re not correct at all. I said that Republicans trying for the 16th year in a row to align their electoral process with 48 other states is hardly evidence of “literally working to end democracy.”
Why do you keep making shit up?
That was a rhetorical question, btw. I already know exactly why you keep making shit up.
So we can split off 15 delegates from California into the Republican column then. Thanks.
California has every right to set up it's election laws however they want. I feel that Nebraska's system is the most fair system for the voters. Had it been changed anytime in the past, there wouldn't have been 1 dime spent in Nebraska for the Presidential election.
No way! Rico’s source AKA “The Voices He Hears” has bad info again? Hard to imagine!
This isn’t difficult. You are just very confused and obtuse.
We don't need to pay more people who don't have the best interest of Americans in mind. If that ever happened then the salary better be 50k and you get 3 terms. No lobbyists and life in prison for accepting bribes.
That’s the problem, in states that consistently are around 50/50, the GOP absolutely dominates the state legislature due to their aggressive gerrymandering. In part this is leftover from the Civil Rights era, where states put together majority black districts in order to ensure some southern blacks made it to Congress. But the downside for Democrats is that it gave state legislatures to the GOP on a silver platter.
If all states allocated votes by district, Dems would have to win 60% of the popular vote to win the Presidency.
This has been an underreported story nationwide - state GOP officials fighting tooth and nail to not allow their citizens to vote on ballot measures.
Here’s an idea. Rather than trying to game the system, maybe Trump could compete for Omaha’s vote on the merits?
Nah.
Nah.
The electoral college is still better than having it thrown to the House of Representatives. Republicans will win in that scenario every time because of the one-state one vote rule.
Hard for them to employ their usual tactics of character assassination, appeals to racism and demonization of the "other" when they're not running against a candidate of the other party and it's just a straight up and down vote on an individual issue.
Although they try, "Soros" funded ballot measure blah blah blah....
Just such a completely degenerate and full of shit party.
This is classic TJ, just classic. The timing now is obviously because Maine can't respond, there is no other reason.
