Future BIG expansion
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If Washington joins the Big1O ... that puts us a notch lower to the bottom with N'western.
Actually, in their hay day they seemed to get a bunch out of southern California and vegas so I think that UCLA and USC would help them. Rhule is making a mistake trying to get Texas connections in now SEC/Big 12 territory.
The expansion won't be anywhere but the west so there will be a pod of minimal travel. It's like baseball when the dodgers needed a partner to expand to the west coast. Oregon/ Washington/ Arizona. all AAU schools (AAU is still a big deal to the conference even if Nebraska doesn't meet the standard anymore)
Iowa > Washington
I don't think so. I think that still has the same importance. Big Ten Research expenditures were 11.5 Billion. generates. Football is just a drop in the bucket
Big ten distributed 43-49 million in payouts to athletic departments ( it will go up in with the new TV deal)
Pac-12, Big Ten, Big 12 revenue fell in fiscal year of pandemic, while ACC, SEC saw increases
Three Power Five conferences were unlucky in efforts to stage football games during pandemic and suffered major revenue downturns in fiscal year 2021.
www.usatoday.com
We all think that Football and athletics is a huge money maker for schools but it's nothing more than an advertising department. Let not forget what the football stadium has done to advertise the Children's hospital/uihc. The hospitals generated 100 million in revenue in 2020 and 200 million in 2021. I think if they wanted the Kinnick's ground. They would build a new stadium where the track and field area is off the strip or in Tiffin
Not enough room in the track and field area. This would seem to be a good location.I don't think so. I think that still has the same importance. Big Ten Research expenditures were 11.5 Billion. generates. Football is just a drop in the bucket
Big ten distributed 43-49 million in payouts to athletic departments ( it will go up in with the new TV deal)
Pac-12, Big Ten, Big 12 revenue fell in fiscal year of pandemic, while ACC, SEC saw increases
Three Power Five conferences were unlucky in efforts to stage football games during pandemic and suffered major revenue downturns in fiscal year 2021.www.usatoday.com
We all think that Football and athletics is a huge money maker for schools but it's nothing more than an advertising department. Let not forget what the football stadium has done to advertise the Children's hospital/uihc. The hospitals generated 100 million in revenue in 2020 and 200 million in 2021. I think if they wanted the Kinnick's ground. They would build a new stadium where the track and field area is off the strip or in Tiffin
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6617757,-91.5766789,1091m/data=!3m1!1e3
Between reruns of Law and order SVU and Criminal minds... Pac Ten Fooooootbaaaaall!
Wow. That’s as bad as LIV golf “big” announcement of being on the CW.
Weird isn't it? But they are on tv which helps liv. Just cw? So weird. I don't think anyone in power in the big would add anyone else except ND. They are always welcome to join imo despite my dislike for them.
Stop the presses. Let me say that Florida State may emerge as a BIG contender. With them getting close to AAU status and they and Clemson not happy with the ACC things could shake up on the East coast. And honestly I think the BIG would rather have some ACC schools over what's left in the PAC. Say like FSU, UNC, UVA. I think that's who the BIG will target in the ACC and the SEC will target Clemson VT, NC St, maybe Duke and perhaps Miami. This could make ND rethink about joining a conference and if they stay indy the BIG gets GT. Good name brands with great TV markets states with growing populations and recruits and those schools would add to the BIG $$$$$$$$ contracts. Plus al the schools mentioned have history with Maryland. I think it would be great Penn State VS Florida St in October or Iowa vs UNC. Pretty cool
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Don't think Rose Bowl because could be a home game for someone. How about Vegas?
I think Big Ten will take 2 more west schools to pair with USC and UCLA. Wouldn't shock me if it is Cal and Stanford though. You just locked up all of California with those 4 teams.
Will the expansion bring in enough new TV sets to increase payout per school?
When conferences get so big you only ever play 1/2 of the teams is it really a conference?
It’s getting to the point where playing in the Big Ten will mean nothing. You will never play Ohio St, Michigan, Penn State again.
Iowa will feel like they left big ten and joined the pac 12.
When conferences get so big you only ever play 1/2 of the teams is it really a conference?
It’s getting to the point where playing in the Big Ten will mean nothing. You will never play Ohio St, Michigan, Penn State again.
Iowa will feel like they left big ten and joined the pac 12.
My opinion, which means nothing, is Oregon and Washington.
Based on recent history, none of this expansion helps the Hawks in regards to recruiting.
Right now, the B1G is focused on getting a new commissioner and onboarding USC/UCLA. The leadership of the conference needs stabilized as there are a few schools expected to change leaders at the end of the term. Currently, there aren’t enough votes for expansion. ND is the only school where an escalator clause was included in the tv contract. Another network/streaming partner would have to foot the bill for any new schools, enough that any potential adds aren’t dilutive
Back to the Future
B1G should get to 20 with Stanford, Notre Dame, Oregon and Washington. Put those schools in a division with USC, UCLA, Nebraska, Maryland, Penn State and Rutgers. The Other 10 would be the "original" Big Ten (OK, not U. of Chicago, but MSU).
Both divisions play round-robin nine-game schedules to determine a champion. Early-season crossover games (Notre Dame vs. Michigan, Nebraska vs. Iowa, Stanford vs. Northwestern, Oregon vs. Ohio State, Washington vs. Minnesota, Penn State vs. Michigan State, for example) would kick off the season in style.
Then Iowa could play ISU and UNI, and Nebraska could play Colorado and South Dakota (not SDSU; they'd beat us unless we improve).
We almost had the "alliance" once where we were gonna play a PAC school each season.
Well, the RB is just a part of the B1G/PAC history ...hard not to keep it in the rotation.
So-Fi would probably make a better alternate venue.
Not all true, Nebraska recruited nationally. In the hay days of 1990 - 99 recruiting looked like this.
65 were from Nebraska, 18 Cali, 16 Texas, 11 NJ, and 0 from Nevada. I didn't total the others but they were onsie twosies from Pa, Ohio, Iowa, Kansas, Mo, Florida, NC, Illinois, Ut, Az, etc. Looks like they need to recruit Nebraska. Some of the most high profile players for the Huskers were from NJ.
