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GEN Milley article

The Army’s new toolkit goes far beyond social media surveillance of the type offered by private contractors like Dataminr, which helps police and military agencies detect perceived threats by scraping social media timelines and chatrooms for various keywords. Instead, Army Protective Services Battalion investigators would seemingly combine social media data with a broad variety of public and nonpublic information, all accessible through a “universal search selector.”

These sources of information include “signal-rich discussions from illicit threat-actor communities and access to around-the-clock conversations within threat-actor channels,” public research, CCTV feeds, radio stations, news outlets, personal records, hacked information, webcams, and — perhaps most invasive — cellular location data.

The document mentions the use of “geo-fenced” data as well, a controversial practice wherein an investigator draws a shape on a digital map to focus their surveillance of a specific area. While app-based smartphone tracking is a potent surveillance technique, it remains unclear how exactly this data might actually be used to unmask threatening social media posts, or what relevance other data categories like radio stations or academic research could possibly have.

The Army procurement document shows it wasn’t just looking for surveillance software, but also tools to disguise the Army’s internet presence as it monitors the web. The contract says the Army would use “misattribution”: deceiving others about who is actually behind the keyboard. The document says the Army would accomplish this through falsifying web browser information and by relaying Army internet traffic through servers located in foreign cities, obscuring its stateside origin.

According to the document, “SEWP Solutions, LLC is the only vendor that allows USACID the ability to tunnel into specific countries/cities like Moscow, Russia or Beijing, China and come out on a host nation internet domain.”



THE DATA USED by the toolkit all falls under the rubric of “PAI,” or publicly available information, a misnomer that often describes not only what is freely available to the public, but also commercially purchased private information bought and sold by a wide constellation of shadowy surveillance firms and data brokers. Location data gleaned from smartphone apps and resold by the unregulated mobile ad industry provides nearly anyone — including the Army, it appears — with an effortless, unaccountable means of tracking the phone-owning public’s movements with pinpoint accuracy, both in the U.S. and abroad.
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Sure, avoiding and conceding the point that Trump's a degenerate deranged fascist, I had no choice but to give him my full-fledged support what with the trans and everything.....

Let alone Hunter Biden.
How's Portland doing?

Youse guys fending off the fascist hordes, sweaty?
 
FFS, you phucking people. The first President to attempt to use the military in the service of a coup to keep himself in power and overturn the legitimate government of the United States of America.
The Atlantic didn't cover it, sweaty.

Soooo ....

what's next, dipshit? Troon pivot?
 
The Atlantic didn't cover it, sweaty.

Soooo ....

what's next, dipshit? Troon pivot?
The plan was to overturn the election by quasi-legalistic means and then invoke the Insurrection Act and use the military to enforce it. This is common knowledge, Trump world was open about it. Are you arguing that there is even any controversy around this issue?

What about the replacement of top officials in the civilian hierarchy of the military after the election like Sec of Defense Esper? Michael Flynn advocating openly (and Trump behind closed doors) for declaration of martial law to keep Trump in power?

Milley in the piece makes it obvious that he was aware of these plans when he gave the warning to Patel et al per treason. Sure, Milley's trying to be Mr Neutral above-it-all military guy here but Goldberg finally gets him to admit it:

"Shortly after Esper was fired, Milley told both Patel and Ezra Cohen-Watnick, another Trump loyalist sent to the Pentagon, that he would make sure they would see the world “from behind bars” if they did anything illegal to prevent Joe Biden from taking the oath of office on January 20. (Both men have denied being warned in this manner.)
I asked Milley recently about his encounters with Trump’s men. As is his on-the-record custom, he minimized the drama of those days.
I said, “You literally warned political appointees that they would be punished if they engaged in treasonous activities.”
He responded: “I didn’t do that. Someone saying I did that?”
“You warned Kash Patel and others that they were ****ing around and shouldn’t have been.”
“I didn’t warn anybody that I would hold them accountable for anything.”
“You warned them that they would be held accountable for breaking the law or violating their oaths.”
Suddenly, acquiescence.

“Yeah, sure, in conversation,” he said. “It’s my job to give advice, so I was advising people that we must follow the law. I give advice all the time.”
 
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Imagine a world where a former President, and a leading candidate to regain the presidency, suggests that death is a fitting next step for the chairman of the joint chiefs. Considering Trump’s base, this is just asking for one of the MAGA crazies to do something very very bad.

This should be denounced by every Republican. Sadly I doubt we hear anything on this from the other GOP candidates (except maybe Christie…how he ended up looking like the sane adult in the room is remarkable considering his history).
 
Imagine a world where a former President, and a leading candidate to regain the presidency, suggests that death is a fitting next step for the chairman of the joint chiefs. Considering Trump’s base, this is just asking for one of the MAGA crazies to do something very very bad.

This should be denounced by every Republican. Sadly I doubt we hear anything on this from the other GOP candidates (except maybe Christie…how he ended up looking like the sane adult in the room is remarkable considering his history).

It's amazing how how people like him and Liz Cheney can look good when they merely acknowledge how bad MAGA is for the country.
 
At this point, I don't think there is ANYTHING that can hurt his support in this country. These books about the goings on "inside" the WH are simply terrifying! Sure a few stories may be embellished, but book after book confirms this guy is a madman, and 40% of the country (according to 538) "approve" of him.

I feels like a very bad movie - I wish it was.
 
I'm linking a blog post that talks about a vignette in the Atlantic piece (including the story here), for those of us who have always seen Trump as a disgusting degenerate totally unfit for office it fits the picture. It's just amazing that stuff that would absolutely destroy the career of any other politician doesn't seem to affect Trump. Course the Democrats and "liberal media" could concentrate on stories like this to discredit/define Trump but they don't and won't:

"At his welcome ceremony at Joint Base Myer–Henderson Hall, across the Potomac River from the capital, Milley gained an early, and disturbing, insight into Trump’s attitude toward soldiers. Milley had chosen a severely wounded Army captain, Luis Avila, to sing “God Bless America.” Avila, who had completed five combat tours, had lost a leg in an IED attack in Afghanistan, and had suffered two heart attacks, two strokes, and brain damage as a result of his injuries. To Milley, and to four-star generals across the Army, Avila and his wife, Claudia, represented the heroism, sacrifice, and dignity of wounded soldiers.

It had rained that day, and the ground was soft; at one point Avila’s wheelchair threatened to topple over. Milley’s wife, Hollyanne, ran to help Avila, as did Vice President Mike Pence. After Avila’s performance, Trump walked over to congratulate him, but then said to Milley, within earshot of several witnesses, “Why do you bring people like that here? No one wants to see that, the wounded.” Never let Avila appear in public again, Trump told Milley. (Recently, Milley invited Avila to sing at his retirement ceremony.)"


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Thoughts? This is the guy you adore? The same guy who wouldn’t go to a ceremony to honor WW1 dead in France because it was sprinkling.
It’s amazing to look at all the people ignoring this thread, and these comments who fill HORT with praise of Trump.
 
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Thoughts? This is the guy you adore? The same guy who wouldn’t go to a ceremony to honor WW1 dead in France because it was sprinkling.
It’s amazing to look at all the people ignoring this thread, and these comments who fill HORT with praise of Trump.
Suckers and losers all of them. DJT has no respect for our military and the people who have served and even the ones who made the ultimate sacrifice. He looks upon them as a useful tool to attempt to wield power and obtain his goals, nothing more.
 
Suckers and losers all of them. DJT has no respect for our military and the people who have served and even the ones who made the ultimate sacrifice. He looks upon them as a useful tool to attempt to wield power and obtain his goals, nothing more.
Remember when he wanted to have a massive military parade, including tanks, on the streets of DC?
 
Are you insinuating a 4 star General, Cairman of the Joint Chiefs, has to get permission from the president to make phone calls to counterparts in other countries?
The conversation he had with china was completely unacceptable. There is no excusing it.

Good riddance to milley in general. Hope Austin is shortly behind him.
 
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On January 8th Trump was still the Commander-in-Chief of the US Military. He called China to let them know he would give them a heads up if he did anything that could be construed as aggressive. AKA, would warn them.

That is fact.

Hell of a chain of command you have there if you can preemptively tell the enemy you won't follow the CICs orders.
 
On January 8th Trump was still the Commander-in-Chief of the US Military. He called China to let them know he would give them a heads up if he did anything that could be construed as aggressive. AKA, would warn them.

That is fact.

Hell of a chain of command you have there if you can preemptively tell the enemy you won't follow the CICs orders.
I agree with you. Trump should have been 25th amendmented before it got to that point.
 
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