I'm wondering if they'll continue to insist he was an atheist after hearing him say 'Allahu akbar' at the scene of the crime.
Or will the media they consume even show or reference that moment?
Germany terror attack
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Or will the media they consume even show or reference that moment?
No it’s not. Islamists don’t want to eliminate Jews in pursuit of some larger goal.
That is the end goal.
What they seek is subjugation.
Whether you perceive it as the next step or the final step toward their goal, it remains terrorism.
No, it doesn’t. The intended victims of terrorism are not those harmed in the direct attack. It is the population as a whole and policy makers.
The fact that an Islamist kills Jews does not make him a terrorist. We need to know his goal of the attack.
I realize being oblivious is your schtick, but is really lost on you that this was another attack on a xmas celebration?
7 attacks on xmas markets in France and Germany over the last 10 years by jihadists.
You're like Steve Martin in The Jerk:
"He hates these nutcrackers!"
SMH
You know a lot about fly traps? Many mouth breathers are experts but they don’t seem to realize it.
So if these were terrorist attacks, what change in population attitudes or public policies were the attackers trying to induce?
Are you honestly ignorant of the goals of the jihadists? Ever read any interviews with Bin Laden?
They seek subjugation to their religion, and an end to the expression of apostates.
The irrationality of their means to their end doesn't alter the fact they've adopted terrorism as a means to their end.
If you're looking for rationality from religious nuts, you'll never find what you seek.
Correct. They are not terrorists. They are not trying to influence people or policy.
They are warriors. They are at war with the non-Islamist world. They want to defeat that world, to, as you say, subjugate it to them, or even eliminate it.
Sadly, since 9/11, we’ve allowed the T word to lose its useful meaning. The “war on terror” should have been a “War on Islamists”.
Have you read any of the OBL interviews? You didn't answer that question, so I'm trying to figure out the depth of ignorance I'm dealing with here.
OBL absolutely demanded policy changes.
Quit propping up middle east dictators.
Quit propping up Israel.
Adopt Islam.
Those are the policy changes they demand. Their tool of coercion is murdering civilians.
What is the tactic these 'warriors' used against xmas markets 7 times in the last 10 years in France and Germany?
hint:
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
No, I’ve not read any OBL interviews.
Yes, 9/11 was in fact a terrorist attack. OBL thought it would cause the US to pull back from the Middle East. As such, it was a colossal strategic failure: The US became even more involved in the Middje East. But see, in this case, we know the motive for the act, and that motive was to drive US policy change.
I’m not clear on the motive of the German attacker. I read something about him actually being anti-Islam? Is the motive known?
Yes, 9/11 was in fact a terrorist attack. OBL thought it would cause the US to pull back from the Middle East. As such, it was a colossal strategic failure: The US became even more involved in the Middje East. But see, in this case, we know the motive for the act, and that motive was to drive US policy change.
I’m not clear on the motive of the German attacker. I read something about him actually being anti-Islam? Is the motive known?
He's literally shouting 'Allahu akbar' while being arrested after slaughtering people at a xmas market and you're at a loss for motive?
Your obtuseness is charming.
I get it, connecting dots isn't your thing, but if killing infidels celebrating xmas is the means, can you elucidate the goal?
If not, read some of those OBL interviews for what you're still missing.
Well, it could be to try and squash Christian celebrations. Make it too risky to celebrate Christ in the open. Thus contributing a little to killing Christianity. If this was the goal, than this would be terrorism (influencing the public through violence).
Another goal could be that the guy was a sicko and just loves killing people, independent of religion (“Alluh Ackbar” or whatever = God is great for letting me kill people of all religions or none at all…thank god for allowing me to kill.).
Another goal could be revenge for the shitty way his girl friend treated him.
And on and on and on…
Not a terrorist until we know motive.
