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Getting very, very pumped about Hawkeye Defense

I actually think we have some terrific depth at almost all position, if Ott doesn't come back DE could be thin but DT we are 3 deep and solid very solid, FIsher gone but Mends/Hackaday/Bower provide great depth, Fleming is a terrific back up Corner and Snyder/Gair provide depth at safety. I actually think our depth is probably as good as it has been in a long long time on the defensive side of the ball.
I guess I misspoke. I should have said "young" instead of "shallow". Not to be negative but Iowa is an injury away at nearly every position from playing kids with no game experience. Hopefully they are good enough to not be completely overwhelmed if that comes to pass.
 
I guess I misspoke. I should have said "young" instead of "shallow". Not to be negative but Iowa is an injury away at nearly every position from playing kids with no game experience. Hopefully they are good enough to not be completely overwhelmed if that comes to pass.
That is a fair statement, but also a statement that can be made in every college program in america. Now offensively is a different story. We have some depth at some positions, but an injury at say WR could be scary
 
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I guess I misspoke. I should have said "young" instead of "shallow". Not to be negative but Iowa is an injury away at nearly every position from playing kids with no game experience. Hopefully they are good enough to not be completely overwhelmed if that comes to pass.

Happens every year. It is hard to have a lot of experienced backups.
 
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All I'm saying is it wasn't as good as RockEye was making it seem. Definitely an above average defense, but teams like Stanford and Minnesota threw all over it. I don't see how this defense will be better than the 2009 defense, which would make it not one of the best defenses in quite sometime. There will be next to no pass rush and the safety position is unproven.

Miles Taylor is unproven? You're a troll. Deal with it.
 
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Oh so you meant to say the free safety position was unproven and not the safety position. You're bad. Continue to troll tiger
Not my bad at all. It's not my fault you were too dense to understand what I was saying.
The safety position and free safety position go hand-in-hand, it's not that difficult.
 
Also minny racked up yards due to multiple trick plays, pretty much had nothing to lose. Iowa had one defensive game due to best player in country going off....doesn't make their defense last year bad.....ask MSU
You mean that MSU team that gained 365 yards of offense on us? That was a good defense performance, but hardly would consider that great after failing to get a stop when it was needed. Trick plays count the same as any other plays, you can't just discredit them lol. Nebraska gained 433. Purdue gained 405. Minnesota gained 434. Indiana gained 407. Stanford gained 429. Those last 6 games show there's something left to be desired from the defense.
 
You mean that MSU team that gained 365 yards of offense on us? That was a good defense performance, but hardly would consider that great after failing to get a stop when it was needed. Trick plays count the same as any other plays, you can't just discredit them lol. Nebraska gained 433. Purdue gained 405. Minnesota gained 434. Indiana gained 407. Stanford gained 429. Those last 6 games show there's something left to be desired from the defense.


The only defensive stat that matters is points given up. Nothing else matters. NE, MN , IN, PU could not score enough. Game over. Hawks win.
 
The only defensive stat that matters is points given up. Nothing else matters. NE, MN , IN, PU could not score enough. Game over. Hawks win.
What about the two other games? Offense couldn't bail the D out in those. Defense wins championships, unless you're just content winning regular season games.
 
What about the two other games? Offense couldn't bail the D out in those. Defense wins championships, unless you're just content winning regular season games.

Very content.
What about the two other games? Offense couldn't bail the D out in those. Defense wins championships, unless you're just content winning regular season games.


Very content. Iowa had a chance against MSU. Not in same league as Stanford talent wise. Iowa defense was better than their opposition in 12 games. Clemson out gained Alabama? Its all about scoring defense.
 
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Very content. Iowa had a chance against MSU. Not in same league as Stanford talent wise. Iowa defense was better than their opposition in 12 games. Clemson out gained Alabama? Its all about scoring defense.
But that's the issue. The defense was barely good enough to get by three teams who only won 6 games. How is that going to translate with a tougher schedule this year. Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota should all have better offenses next year and have pretty solid defenses. Giving up 20+ and expecting to be able to outscore that consistently isn't going to happen.
 
You mean that MSU team that gained 365 yards of offense on us? That was a good defense performance, but hardly would consider that great after failing to get a stop when it was needed. Trick plays count the same as any other plays, you can't just discredit them lol. Nebraska gained 433. Purdue gained 405. Minnesota gained 434. Indiana gained 407. Stanford gained 429. Those last 6 games show there's something left to be desired from the defense.
It shows that losing Ott was a big deal. The line was young and undersized. Despite that, they still performed quite well.
 
My guess is those offenses may have lost a starter or two. Chances are our defensive returnees play better after another year of experience. I could see J.J. being a beast this year. If Drew comes back healthy look out.
 
With Desmond King's return, having 3 of 4 defensive backs returning, plus a
Bevy of Linebackers (Niemann, Bower, Josey Wales, Mends, etc, etc) along with
Jaleel Johnson, Bazata, Faith, Matt Nelson, Parker Hesse on the Defensive Line, I'm thinking that this could
be one of the best Hawkeye defensive groups in quite some time.

They were d*** good last year and have almost everyone back!

#goHawks
We have this guy on our team now?

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I do like our chances, then.
 
Getting a pass rush is the key to having a great defense. Our pass rush went away once Ott went down last year. If Hesse can gain 10-15lbs, Nelson develops and/or Ott comes back, they have the potential to be a top 10 defense.

Hesse will be FINE and already was, last year. Aaron Mends and Bo Bower look to bring more speed to the edge for Iowa, imho. Jaleel will get his share of sacks/hurries. Matt Nelson just needs to get the big paws up, from his 6'8" body and BOOM.

#goHawks
 
You mean that MSU team that gained 365 yards of offense on us? That was a good defense performance, but hardly would consider that great after failing to get a stop when it was needed. Trick plays count the same as any other plays, you can't just discredit them lol. Nebraska gained 433. Purdue gained 405. Minnesota gained 434. Indiana gained 407. Stanford gained 429. Those last 6 games show there's something left to be desired from the defense.

MSU has few yds per play than we did. That game was all about the offense not putting together drives to help our defense out. I think they ran about 20 more plays. Even when we scored it was a bomb or a short field. That was an excellent defensive performance by both teams.
 
But that's the issue. The defense was barely good enough to get by three teams who only won 6 games. How is that going to translate with a tougher schedule this year. Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota should all have better offenses next year and have pretty solid defenses. Giving up 20+ and expecting to be able to outscore that consistently isn't going to happen.
Seriously, if you can't admit our defense was salty last year than IDK what to tell you. It may not have been flashy but it was just what you said, good enough to win games.....what else do you want from our D. Especially
But that's the issue. The defense was barely good enough to get by three teams who only won 6 games. How is that going to translate with a tougher schedule this year. Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota should all have better offenses next year and have pretty solid defenses. Giving up 20+ and expecting to be able to outscore that consistently isn't going to happen.
Not so fast my obvious troll friend.....why don't we bring stats and objectivity into play here. So you are talking about our defense (which could bring back 9 of 11 starters) from last years team that finished 22nd nationally in total yards per game, # 13 in takeaways, 19th in scoring defense, 15th in rushing defense, 8th in defensive TD's, shall I go on Mr. Troll...or maybe you could bring some stats to back up your claim....
 
Not so fast my obvious troll friend.....why don't we bring stats and objectivity into play here. So you are talking about our defense (which could bring back 9 of 11 starters) from last years team that finished 22nd nationally in total yards per game, # 13 in takeaways, 19th in scoring defense, 15th in rushing defense, 8th in defensive TD's, shall I go on Mr. Troll...or maybe you could bring some stats to back up your claim....
The last 6 games of the season the defense was 80th in ypg allowed and 67th in ppg allowed. Pretty foolish to judge a defense on the whole season when it performed much differently after Ott's injury and when playing against better offenses. Teams figured out the defense and it showed in the latter half of the season.
 
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Again, I will take the defensive performance against a veteran QB led MSU team any day. 16 points given up. More issues on the offensive side not being able to run the ball and stretching the field more often.

Oline will be better this year, healthier CJ, more ball control and defense will get even better.
 
The last 6 games of the season the defense was 80th in ypg allowed and 67th in ppg allowed. Pretty foolish to judge a defense on the whole season when it performed much differently after Ott's injury and when playing against better offenses. Teams figured out the defense and it showed in the latter half of the season.
Last 6 games:
Maryland 15 points
Indiana- 27 points- well below their average
Minny- 35 points, most off trick plays and late scores (pretty deceiving score)
Purdue-20 points
Nebby 20 points- offense either went 3 and out or scored on big play....20 points not bad for being on field 85% of the game
MSU-16 points and by far the best defensive game (both teams) of the year!
Stanford- Obiously not a good showing, but again not sure anybody stopped C Mac all year...so sure you can complain about this
All of this after losing Ott (best defensive player)
Just wondering why you are so skeptical of last years D and why you would be even more skeptical of the D next year when returning 9 of the 11 starters. The 2 that we lose were great appreciated Hawkeyes, but lets not kid ourselves they are both replaceable.
 
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Last 6 games:
Maryland 15 points
Indiana- 27 points- well below their average
Minny- 35 points, most off trick plays and late scores (pretty deceiving score)
Purdue-20 points
Nebby 20 points- offense either went 3 and out or scored on big play....20 points not bad for being on field 85% of the game
MSU-16 points and by far the best defensive game (both teams) of the year!
Stanford- Obiously not a good showing, but again not sure anybody stopped C Mac all year...so sure you can complain about this
All of this after losing Ott (best defensive player)
Just wondering why you are so skeptical of last years D and why you would be even more skeptical of the D next year when returning 9 of the 11 starters. The 2 that we lose were great appreciated Hawkeyes, but lets not kid ourselves they are both replaceable.

20 points allowed against PU isn't great, by any means.
Trick plays and late scores are points....and from what I remember of the mn game the score wasn't "deceiving".
IND dropped a ton of wide open passes....their below average score was because of horrible play by the receivers.....not great defense. D was average at best that game.

Nothing to brag about in those 3 games.

That said, the WI, NW, NE & MSU games they did well. I have high hopes this season....I just hope they can be much more consistent and that the O will give them some more rest during the games.

12-0 was great but we weren't many plays from being 8-4 or even 7-5. I just hope the team pays more attention to the last 2 games than the first 12 and realize they have plenty to improve(as does any team).
 
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20 points allowed against PU isn't great, by any means.
Trick plays and late scores are points....and from what I remember of the mn game the score wasn't "deceiving".
IND dropped a ton of wide open passes....their below average score was because of horrible play by the receivers.....not great defense. D was average at best that game.

Nothing to brag about in those 3 games.

That said, the WI, NW, NE & MSU games they did well. I have high hopes this season....I just hope they can be much more consistent and that the O will give them some more rest during the games.

12-0 was great but we weren't many plays from being 8-4 or even 7-5. I just hope the team pays more attention to the last 2 games than the first 12 and realize they have plenty to improve(as does any team).
Lets put this in perspective of NCAA football today- 112 of the 127 teams averaged above 20 PPG in the 2015 season.......112 of the 127 according to NCAA.com....so I don't know about the rest of you but I would consider our defense performance last year far above average and something to be excited about next year
 
Lets put this in perspective of NCAA football today- 112 of the 127 teams averaged above 20 PPG in the 2015 season.......112 of the 127 according to NCAA.com....so I don't know about the rest of you but I would consider our defense performance last year far above average and something to be excited about next year

Exactly. You will always get the glass half empty crowd. I am sure the same folks would have begged for a 2 win season before it began.
 
Lets put this in perspective of NCAA football today- 112 of the 127 teams averaged above 20 PPG in the 2015 season.......112 of the 127 according to NCAA.com....so I don't know about the rest of you but I would consider our defense performance last year far above average and something to be excited about next year
Amen brotha...amen!
 
If we can stay healthy, our defense will be much improved this year and we were good last year. The hallmark of ALL good Kirk Ferentz team is a good, solid defense. This years should be that and more.
 
As long as they get a pretty good pass rush, they will be crazy good.
Just yesterday I heard some really good things about Anthony Nelson and his pass rushing ability. I was told the O-line is having a hard time stopping him from getting to the QB.
 
Exactly. You will always get the glass half empty crowd. I am sure the same folks would have begged for a 2 win season before it began.
I think most of us are happy with saying the glass is half full. The problem is, the tendency is for some to get carried away and think the glass is completely full. That's why some posters feel the need to address our defencies.
 
Well, GopherDano - at least Iowa doesn't need to go the juco route like the gophs are doing just to field an o-line. Apparently, Minny's new fat coach ate a couple of his players.:)
Why does someone with a name like Gopher Dan post on this site.. Is Minny site that boring..
 
Jewell and Niemann is Angerer and Edds Part 2. I think Hesse and Mends break out. Even if Drew Ott comes back, I question how healthy he will be which means other guys have to step up. I'll predict Hooker, Ragumba and Lattimore all play.
 
Jewell and Niemann is Angerer and Edds Part 2. I think Hesse and Mends break out. Even if Drew Ott comes back, I question how healthy he will be which means other guys have to step up. I'll predict Hooker, Ragumba and Lattimore all play.

And I'm looking for Faith Ekatite, Bo Bower, Matt Nelson, all experienced guys to really
ROCK n ROLL this fall. Boom

#goHawks
 
I think most of us are happy with saying the glass is half full. The problem is, the tendency is for some to get carried away and think the glass is completely full. That's why some posters feel the need to address our defencies.

This is a true statement.

Full-Glassers:
(1) Grab your way-too-full glass; then
(2) Go re-watch the Stanford game; then
(3) Siphon some of that liquid courage off of said way-too-full glass.

If later this spring or summer that sucker starts filling back up too far past the half-way point again, repeat 1-3 above.
 
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In defense of Iowa's defense, Christian McCaffery is literally a ninja. Have you ever tried to tackle a ninja? Not that easy.
 
In defense of Iowa's defense, Christian McCaffery is literally a ninja. Have you ever tried to tackle a ninja? Not that easy.

Worthy is right............for the doubting gloom and doom, depressives, Christian McCaffery did that to everyone, except NW, I guess.

Christian McCaffery set the ALL TIME all purpose yardage record, eclipsing the seasons that
Barry Sanders had.

The IOWA HAWKEYE Defense was Very good in 2015 & this fall it could be LIGHTS OUT for
opponents who try to mess with the Josey Wales' gang.

#goHawks :)
 
Jewell and Niemann is Angerer and Edds Part 2. I think Hesse and Mends break out. Even if Drew Ott comes back, I question how healthy he will be which means other guys have to step up. I'll predict Hooker, Ragumba and Lattimore all play.

I think Hooker and Lattimore will get some playing time this year, and Barrington Wade is a possibility, too. He's a workhorse and he's gonna be damn good.
 
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