I am glad he apologized as it was not meant in disrespect and to me it should be the end of it.
I agree and guess in the future he will....I'm old enough to remember there being alot of WW11 veterans around and with what they had been through it was no surprise they had animosity....my grandpa was one of them....these college age kids would have no idea....obviously someone thought it wasn't proper or was offended and he did the right thing....apologized and moved onI wonder how bad a racist term Jap really is in current times. This "historical context" happened over 70 years ago (very nasty how Japanese Americans were treated) but has improved ever since to the point where the animosity between the 2 are almost nonexistent. Clearly, there are some who are still offended by the term and for that reason, Jap should not be used....just add the 2 more syllables needed to say Japanese.
Just curious why you have no problem spelling out g**k and c**** yet refuse to spell out the other. That's kinda weird isn't it?Very good post. But I disagree with equating Jap with the N word. Jap can be totally innocent (using it as shortened form of Japanese) or can be used to show racial separation (like WWII). The N word is never innocent (unless you are black, which I disagree with).
This distinction of the word Jap is why you and I know Gilman is innocent. Now if Gilman were to use the word "gook" or "chink"....no different from the N word
Someone will probably question why you decided to put them in that order..White, Yellow, Red, Brown, Black! Did I miss anything? OK let's move on as this has nothing to do with actual wrestling
That oddly sounds like A NoTapedLaces reply..Gilman didn't attend Iowa for the education, cut him some slack.
I'm curious as to what your alternative to Äfrican American rapper would be. "Black rapper", perhaps? Ok alternative, but African American is at least as predominant, if not more, in public discourse over the last twenty years."African American rapper" lol...Such a wonderbread, er Caucasian/European-American way to say it![]()
Just curious why you have no problem spelling out g**k and c**** yet refuse to spell out the other. That's kinda weird isn't it?
No my friend, I'm a straight middle aged white guy. I'm not allowed to be offended. It's all good.Honestly, I wasn't thinking about the reasons why. I just did. I hope you are not offended
No my friend, I'm a straight middle aged white guy. I'm not allowed to be offended. It's all good.
Very good post. But I disagree with equating Jap with the N word. Jap can be totally innocent (using it as shortened form of Japanese) or can be used to show racial separation (like WWII). The N word is never innocent (unless you are black, which I disagree with).
This distinction of the word Jap is why you and I know Gilman is innocent. Now if Gilman were to use the word "gook" or "chink"....no different from the N word
That is not my edit.Why is it ok to type gook or chink, but not ******?
Like I said, just a bunch of white guys getting offended about being told, usually by other white folks, that they are offending another race or nationality. I'll ask you directly. Would you be comfortable addressing a Japanese American you don't know as a close friend as "the Jap" or saying to one of your buddies "the Jap in the blue shirt" in reference to a guy sitting at your table at an event or in a room with you?
FIFY. If I were to guess, about 99% of the folks on here are white. Yet several have lectured on what qualifies as offensive to minorities because well, one ate at a Japanese steak house one time or some of his best friends are black. So even in this conversation, whites get to dictate how others should feel. Smacks of paternalism is all and I find it ironic.
Do I refer to someone as "the Jap dude?" No...but my Dad might as in "The Jap Car." It's generational. But the offensive linguistics seem to change every few years. My father in law calls himself Mexican, is officially a Hispanic, non white (although that's changing to Latino), but his granddaughter is offended by anything other than Chicano. My wife calls herself an American. See the pitfalls here? I guess it depends on who you talk to.
As for African American, maybe in an official setting where I won't get lectured by human resources if I say black. But yea...black dude/white dude is my everyday vernacular...or brother if the dude is my friend. I'd guess you don't have many black friends or else you'd know how fake AA sounds in the real world...at least it's always rang fake, Many of my military buds are like, "Never been to Africa."
Funny story: In Korea, we called the Korean ran buses that came on base "Kimchi Buses" because Koreans eat the hell out of it. Their name for our buses? Cheese bus...because we eat it on everything. I suspect that a lot of shortened nicknames that end up being racist are military in origin. Just a guess.
And here I thought it was because you are a jerk. Who knew?After the last comment by a PSU fan, I hope everyone understands why I post the ped state stuff. I want them all to go away and if it gets one to leave, I have accomplished my goal.
You are probably right and I honestly didn't even think about it when typing.Someone will probably question why you decided to put them in that order..
1984 Randy Lewis beat a Japanese for the Olympic gold medal and afterwards called him a Jap. Probably meant nothing by it and had heard it at home. However its 33 years later, things change, and I am glad Gilman apologized.
Don't be so naive Boo, there's always something to argue aboutThere's no big deal here, and nothing to argue about.
No, I was just playin'... being sarcastic cuz that's what I do here. Anyway, I had no problem with the post and I certainly am not offended. But of course, I am first on your list so there will always be that....You are probably right and I honestly didn't even think about it when typing.I can only guess I thought of my race first and then typed the other "colors". I promise to think before I type from here on out not to offend anyone in the future.