Greater Israel

[What Would Jesus Do?]

For a number of months I've been seeing the occasional headline or video talking about "Greater Israel." Some say that's Netanyahu's true aim.

Gaza
West Bank
Lebanon
Syria

What's next?

You can google maps. There are different ones but this is a common version

Greater Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Thunderlips71]

Not sure that asshole wants to tangle with Turkey and/or Saudi Arabia, but you never know what he and his extremist right-wing cabinet are up to.

 

[Bonerfarts]

Please, Israel cannot even occupy Israel.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Puhleeze...

Just stop F'n around with the Israelis and the war stops.

 

[mnole03]

Think how much easier things would have been for Moses if Israel started on the west side of the Red Sea.

 

[DooBi]

Whatever you gotta do to justify murder and attempted genocide.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

It would be insane for Israel to attack Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Turkey. I am sure bibi wants the Palestinian territory, but he is not stupid enough to pick a fight he can’t win. Not while he is still bogged down with Hamas, Hezbollah and their Iranian backers.

 

[MichaelKeller99]

Puhleeze...

Just stop F'n around with the Israelis and the war stops.

Bullshit.

Just stop the billions in welfare to Israel every year and let them work out a peace agreement on their own.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I've been very critical of Netanyahu and Israel over the past year, but until we learn more about the new guys, I'm not sure I see anything wrong with these actions - except maybe for the attacks on Latakia (where there are Russians).

Of course the report doesn't address civilians killed and whatnot, but the attacks seem to make sense to me.

Israel strikes hundreds of military targets in Syria​

Turkey accuses Israel of displaying occupier mentality and UN envoy says airstrikes must cease

Israeli warplanes have intensified an air offensive in Syria, striking hundreds of military targets and destroying entire squadrons of fighters, radar and missile systems, missile stores and much of the small Syrian navy.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said late on Tuesday that it carried out more than 350 strikes over the previous 48 hours, hitting “most of the strategic weapons stockpiles” in Syria to stop them from falling into the hands of extremists.

The strikes came as Israeli troops consolidated their hold on a demilitarised zone in Syria east of the occupied Golan Heights and seized a strip of mountainous territory extending northwards.

Images from the Mediterranean port of Latakia posted on social media and broadcast by local TV networks showed the charred wreckage of at least six warships sunk or badly damaged.

more here

Israel strikes hundreds of military targets in Syria

Turkey accuses Israel of displaying occupier mentality and UN envoy says airstrikes must cease

www.theguardian.com

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Puhleeze...

Just stop F'n around with the Israelis and the war stops.

Where's that SMH emoji?

 

[BelemNole]

It would be insane for Israel to attack Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Turkey. I am sure bibi wants the Palestinian territory, but he is not stupid enough to pick a fight he can’t win. Not while he is still bogged down with Hamas, Hezbollah and their Iranian backers.

Here's the problem tho - if you forment rabid nationalism you eventually lose control of those you riled up. Old Bibbi might not be interested in it, but if the zionist get riled up enough they'll find someone who is.

 

[WDSMHAWK]

It would be insane for Israel to attack Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Turkey. I am sure bibi wants the Palestinian territory, but he is not stupid enough to pick a fight he can’t win. Not while he is still bogged down with Hamas, Hezbollah and their Iranian backers.

After what Netanyahu has been able to get away with the past 14 months why would he stop at Palestine? He knows the strongest military in the world is just a phone call away if he gets in over his head trying to invade one of those countries.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

After what Netanyahu has been able to get away with the past 14 months why would he stop at Palestine? He knows the strongest military in the world is just a phone call away if he gets in over his head trying to invade one of those countries.

Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Egypt are all major allies of the US. Not to mention there is no gain for the US of creating that much destabilization in the region.

I could see Israel keep the bit of Syria they just took, but beyond that is not in the cards.

 

[Tiny Hands Trump]

Not sure that asshole wants to tangle with Turkey and/or Saudi Arabia, but you never know what he and his extremist right-wing cabinet are up to.

Turkey could likely defeat Israel.

Saudi Arabia on the other hand bought our tech but their actual military is made up of dipshits that don't know how to use it. Israel would roll them.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

The U.S. needs to quit supporting a warmongering leader of Israel. Nothing anti-sematic about that position. The folks in power in Israel don't want peace.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

For a number of months I've been seeing the occasional headline or video talking about "Greater Israel." Some say that's Netanyahu's true aim.

Gaza
West Bank
Lebanon
Syria

What's next?

You can google maps. There are different ones but this is a common version

Greater Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is silly.

Fighting with these countries is one thing. Occupying them is an entirely different deal.

Israel can’t manage 140 sq mile Gaza without constant conflict.

 

[thewop]

Israel doesn't want any of that. They DO want the rockets to stop flying over the wall at them though, and will do about anything to make that happen.

 

[l.todd]

Turkey is in NATO. Wouldn’t we be required to actually fight against Israel in that case?

 

[SA_Hawk]

Turkey is in NATO. Wouldn’t we be required to actually fight against Israel in that case?

Turkeys days in NATO may be numbered.

Israel just wants to be left alone and live peacefully.

The next thing you know the Biden administration will be try to send Iran billions of dollars to keep this whole mess going and help rearm them.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Turkey is in NATO. Wouldn’t we be required to actually fight against Israel in that case?

Were not required.

At the end of the day it's just a piece of paper. The willingness for the U.S. to engage is dependant on it's current leader and the will of the American people.

 

[l.todd]

Were not required.

At the end of the day it's just a piece of paper. The willingness for the U.S. to engage is dependant on it's current leader and the will of the American people.

So you think it's okay to ignore the most important and stabilizing mutual defense alliance in history on the whim of a country's current leader? I think Israel is a much better and stronger ally than Turkey and Turkey should not be in NATO, but still.

 

[tumorboy]

Puhleeze...

Just stop F'n around with the Israelis and the war stops.

Maybe stop building settlements/outposts in the West Bank/Gaza. Would give them moral high ground.

 

[MichaelKeller99]

The new chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee once wore his Israeli military uniform to work at Capitol Hill. Wonder where his priorities lie?

GOP lawmaker wears Israeli military uniform to Capitol Hill

Rep. Brian Mast (R-Fla.) arrived Friday on Capitol Hill wearing his military uniform from his service in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in a display of unity with the country following the Palesti…

thehill.com

 

[hawkedoff]

So you think it's okay to ignore the most important and stabilizing mutual defense alliance in history on the whim of a country's current leader? I think Israel is a much better and stronger ally than Turkey and Turkey should not be in NATO, but still.

We are Nato. We are the stabilizing force.

The countries Israel is attacking have been attacking Israel directly and indirectly for decades. They harbor terrorists and want to see Israel destroyed. In the zeal to accuse Israel of genocide people have forgotten that is what the jews are defending themselves against. The jews are fighting against the genocide of their own people and make no mistake that absolutely is the goal of all of those countries and terrorist groups. Coming to western Europe in the coming decades if they don't wake up. Nato is a force of stability? Not if Islam radicalizes the west. Not if Israel falls

 

[hawkedoff]

Maybe stop building settlements/outposts in the West Bank/Gaza. Would give them moral high ground.

Bullshit

 

[hawkedoff]

The new chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee once wore his Israeli military uniform to work at Capitol Hill. Wonder where his priorities lie?

GOP lawmaker wears Israeli military uniform to Capitol Hill

Rep. Brian Mast (R-Fla.) arrived Friday on Capitol Hill wearing his military uniform from his service in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in a display of unity with the country following the Palesti…

thehill.com

In supporting Gondor against Mordor

 

[tumorboy]

Bullshit

You believe Israel stealing land doesn’t affect the recruitment and popularity of terrorists amongst the Arab world? Israel’s entire presence in the modern era started with a mass deposition of Arab’s. In the 40/50’s

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

So you think it's okay to ignore the most important and stabilizing mutual defense alliance in history on the whim of a country's current leader? I think Israel is a much better and stronger ally than Turkey and Turkey should not be in NATO, but still.

But you've just highlighted one of the problems with NATO. Far too big and in many cases will is lacking. Outside of a specific block of countries, it really can't be taken seriously.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Maybe stop building settlements/outposts in the West Bank/Gaza. Would give them moral high ground.

Maybe stop attacking them, thus causing Israel to seize territory.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

The new chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee once wore his Israeli military uniform to work at Capitol Hill. Wonder where his priorities lie?

GOP lawmaker wears Israeli military uniform to Capitol Hill

Rep. Brian Mast (R-Fla.) arrived Friday on Capitol Hill wearing his military uniform from his service in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in a display of unity with the country following the Palesti…

thehill.com

And?

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

You believe Israel stealing land doesn’t affect the recruitment and popularity of terrorists amongst the Arab world? Israel’s entire presence in the modern era started with a mass deposition of Arab’s. In the 40/50’s

Stealing land?

 

[tumorboy]

Stealing land?

Ethnic cleansing probably better description. The Nakba of 1948.

 

[tumorboy]

Maybe stop attacking them, thus causing Israel to seize territory.

Chicken or the egg? It’s an endless cycle. Neither hardliners want peace. Because they know any give in and they’re dead.
Also a military base is completely different than building a suburban town.

 

[MichaelKeller99]

And?

And dual loyalty is NO loyalty.

Mast has taken almost $700,000 from AIPAC. Where are his loyalties?

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

And dual loyalty is NO loyalty.

Nonsense

 

[MichaelKeller99]

Nonsense

Like being loyal to your wife and your mistress.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

It would be insane for Israel to attack Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Turkey. I am sure bibi wants the Palestinian territory, but he is not stupid enough to pick a fight he can’t win. Not while he is still bogged down with Hamas, Hezbollah and their Iranian backers.

Saudi Arabia, Egypt and, especially Turkey are tough calls.

Israel has a treaty with Egypt and el Sisi is our guy, so they aren't likely to go after that territory any time soon.

Israel and SA were on the verge of some sort of "Abraham Accord" prior to 10/7. As long as SA isn't caught helping against Israel, they're probably safe.

Israel has nukes, so they could beat Turkey if they had to; but I'm sure they don't want a conventional war.

That still leaves a lot of Greater Israel to claim...

All of Jordan.​

Most of Syria.​

Half of Iraq.​

Most of Kuwait.​

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With those, Israel would become one of the world's top oil producers. Motivation we certainly understand.

If Israel and the Kurds can play nice together, they could carve up a lot of the Middle East. Although that could risk Turkey getting involved.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think for a minute that even nutty Netanyahu has designs on Iraq. But some of the rest...?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I have a big problem with the Greater Israel hypothesis. You guys tell me if this makes sense.

Israel insists that it be a Jewish nation. How can they maintain Israel as a Jewish nation if they incorporate millions and millions of non-Jews? More Gazas?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

So you think it's okay to ignore the most important and stabilizing mutual defense alliance in history on the whim of a country's current leader? I think Israel is a much better and stronger ally than Turkey and Turkey should not be in NATO, but still.

We'll go all in for some countries. We'll just go through the motions for others.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

Saudi Arabia, Egypt and, especially Turkey are tough calls.

Israel has a treaty with Egypt and el Sisi is our guy, so they aren't likely to go after that territory any time soon.

Israel and SA were on the verge of some sort of "Abraham Accord" prior to 10/7. As long as SA isn't caught helping against Israel, they're probably safe.

Israel has nukes, so they could beat Turkey if they had to; but I'm sure they don't want a conventional war.

That still leaves a lot of Greater Israel to claim...

All of Jordan.​

Most of Syria.​

Half of Iraq.​

Most of Kuwait.​

​

With those, Israel would become one of the world's top oil producers. Motivation we certainly understand.

If Israel and the Kurds can play nice together, they could carve up a lot of the Middle East. Although that could risk Turkey getting involved.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think for a minute that even nutty Netanyahu has designs on Iraq. But some of the rest...?

Jordan is an ally to us and the friendliest of these nations to Israel. Kuwait is probably second on that list in terms of friendliness. No way they go after those nations. I could see them gobble up more of Syria as I wrote above. I doubt they want to poke the hornets nest that is Iraq.