Greater Israel
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Building towns/cities/settlements in Gaza and the West Bank and moving Arabs off the land that they once owned. In some cases tearing down dwellings or plain moving them out and moving Jews into the houses is a modern theft.
As for the formation of Jordan who cares. The following is directly what kicked off the Arab/Israeli conflict
Factors involved in the exodus include direct expulsions by Israeli forces, destruction of Arab villages, psychological warfare including terrorism, massacres such as the widely publicized Deir Yassin massacre[18]: 239–240 which caused many to flee out of fear, crop burning,[19][20] typhoid epidemics in some areas caused by Israeli well-poisoning,[21] and the collapse of Palestinian leadership including the demoralizing impact of wealthier classes fleeing.[22]
Later, a series of land and property laws passed by the first Israeli government prevented Arabs who had left from returning to their homes or claiming their property. They and many of their descendants remain refugees.[23][24] The existence of the so-called Law of Return allowing for immigration and naturalization of any Jewish person and their family to Israel, while a Palestinian right of returnhas been denied, has been cited as evidence for the charge that Israel practices apartheid.[25][26] The status of the refugees, and in particular whether Israel will allow them the right to return to their homes, or compensate them, are key issues in the ongoing Israeli–Palestinian conflict.
Where was Gondor when the Westfold fell?
I’m sure there are maps showing the extent of Israel at the apex in every direction.
What if the Israelis went full manifest destiny?
Told Hamas they had until 12/31/24 to release all the hostages, or Gaza would be emptied into the Syrian eastern desert.
Just took full advantage of the chaos.
The Zionists founded Israel 100 years too late, or I think it would have already been done.
Nice copy and paste and truly meaningless.
When was Jordan formed genius? There is a reason you don't want to answer that question. Could it be because Jordan was formed at the same time as Israel? I bet that's the reason. Either that or you didn't know that
Curious.....how many Palestinians lived in Jordan when it was formed. How many live there now? How about jews?
Weird thing that there doesn't seem to be too much concern over the historical ownership of the land that Jordan sits upon
Tell me....have you always been a nazi or is it recent?
My dad told me a long time ago, "The military exists to break things and kill people. Anyone telling you different is lying or ignorant."
"I cannot discuss this subject with you fairly, because I cannot impart to you what we propose to do, but I assert that our military plans make it necessary for the Inhabitants to go away, and I can only renew my offer of services to make their exodus in any direction as easy and comfortable as possible. You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our Country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out."
Pretty much wrong time period. The modern world be it right or wrong doesn’t care for genocide.
You didn’t refute any of what the Zionists did to remove the Arabs living on what is now modern day Israel. It’s not being a Nazi to point out that Israel bares a share of blame for the lack of peace there. They are not innocent. Heck the current hard Zionist assassinated their own former Prime Minister because he dared to make a peace deal.
Jordan was formed in 1921 and under British rule and independent in 1946. I’m sure you’re probably referring to them annexing the West Bank in 1950.
Btw the exodus happened before the formation of Israel or government. It was at the hands of Zionist militants. Jordan at least granted Palestinians full citizenship and seats in the government. Yes there was open hostilities I wonder why? Something about the forced removal of 700000 Arabs from their homes.
Independent in 1946. Golly mister when was Israel granted its independence?
There were open hostilities because the pqlestuans tried to kill the King of Jordan. There are zero Palestinians in Jordan now because they were either killed or they were assimilated into the larger culture. There are no calls for two states or any accommodations for Palestinians in Jordan and that was never a possibility.
The Arabs wanted to kill all the jews and still do. The reason Palestinians have continued to be at was with Israel is because they are a proxy for those that want to exterminate the jews and take the land of Israel for the Arabs. That isn't a dispute and there has been war since the day Israel gained its independence as a Jewish state.
So when will you take up arms against Jordan for the genocide of the Palestinians within its borders? They are either Jordanian citizens or they have zero rights. None.
You are have aligned yourself with the actual people's attempting genocide against jews. In other words you are everything that defines a nazis belief about jews. Either fix yourself or claim your title.
It’s absurd that one man should get his own country, no matter how great he was at basketball.
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Please, I’m telling you it’s not cut and dry. One side is terrorists the other side terrorizes. Both ruling sides have nothing but blood on their hands. And are willing to let their people die for the cause be it ethnic cleansing of Jews or Palestinians.
You seem to think any criticism of Israel at all is essentially being a Nazi or in favor of the 6 million wasn’t enough crowd.
The Arabs have a legitimate beef. Same as the Native Americans that had treaty after treaty broken whenever oil, gold, resources were found on a reservation.
Israeli citizens have a legit issue because they weren’t part of the sins of their fathers.
Unfortunately it appears we are gradually heading for the destruction of Gaza. Hopefully something can be worked out amongst the West Bank that is attainable or at least better than the alternative. Being the endless cycle of violence.
Herr Zelenskyy arming HTS, a U.S. and UN-designated terrorist organization. Any guarantees those weapons won’t be used against Americans?
According to sources who spoke with Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, Kiev “sought to undermine Russia and its Syrian allies” by arming the UN-designated terrorist organization.
The drones were delivered “four to five weeks ago,” Ignatius reports.
As early as September, Turkish media reported on the presence of Ukrainian specialists in Syria training the former ISIS and Al-Qaeda militias in control of Idlib on the use of drones.
“A delegation from Ukraine went to Idlib in recent months and met with the leaders of the terrorist organization,” Turkish newspaper Aydinlikreported on 9 September, adding that the operatives from Kiev requested the release of several Chechen, Georgian, and Albanian militants held in HTS prisons in exchange for dozens of drones.
“HTS accepted the conditions … and some radical figures were released from their prisons,” Kurdish sources told Aydinlik.
Days later, Sputnik reported that 250 Ukrainian military experts arrived in Idlib to train the extremists in the use and manufacture of drones.
“The Ukrainian military is training militants affiliated with the Turkistan Islamic Party under the command of Hayat Tahrir al-Sham for the use of drones and technologies to develop them with regard to the ability to increase flight speeds, photography, and targeting,” the report highlighted.
“There is information that Ukrainian envoys, those of Ukrainian intelligence, are in the Idlib de-escalation zone on the territory of Syria, where they are recruiting militants of Jabhat al-Nusra, now called Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), to involve them in new hideous operations planned,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrovsaid in September.
Collaboration between the extremist armed groups currently in control of Syria and the Ukrainian military has been ongoing since 2022, when Russian media revealed that scores of HTS and ISIS militants were being sent to Ukraine to fight alongside Kiev’s forces against Russia
thecradle.co
According to sources who spoke with Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, Kiev “sought to undermine Russia and its Syrian allies” by arming the UN-designated terrorist organization.
The drones were delivered “four to five weeks ago,” Ignatius reports.
As early as September, Turkish media reported on the presence of Ukrainian specialists in Syria training the former ISIS and Al-Qaeda militias in control of Idlib on the use of drones.
“A delegation from Ukraine went to Idlib in recent months and met with the leaders of the terrorist organization,” Turkish newspaper Aydinlikreported on 9 September, adding that the operatives from Kiev requested the release of several Chechen, Georgian, and Albanian militants held in HTS prisons in exchange for dozens of drones.
“HTS accepted the conditions … and some radical figures were released from their prisons,” Kurdish sources told Aydinlik.
Days later, Sputnik reported that 250 Ukrainian military experts arrived in Idlib to train the extremists in the use and manufacture of drones.
“The Ukrainian military is training militants affiliated with the Turkistan Islamic Party under the command of Hayat Tahrir al-Sham for the use of drones and technologies to develop them with regard to the ability to increase flight speeds, photography, and targeting,” the report highlighted.
“There is information that Ukrainian envoys, those of Ukrainian intelligence, are in the Idlib de-escalation zone on the territory of Syria, where they are recruiting militants of Jabhat al-Nusra, now called Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), to involve them in new hideous operations planned,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrovsaid in September.
Collaboration between the extremist armed groups currently in control of Syria and the Ukrainian military has been ongoing since 2022, when Russian media revealed that scores of HTS and ISIS militants were being sent to Ukraine to fight alongside Kiev’s forces against Russia
Ukraine provided HTS extremists with 150 drones ahead of Syria takeover: Report
Kiev has maintained close ties with the former ISIS and Al-Qaeda militants currently in control of Syria since the start of the war with Russia in 2022
thecradle.co
Interesting idea. With the current window of instability there, who would interfere?
The Allies also agreed to give Poland and the Soviet Union control of the territories east of the Oder-Neisse line, which included parts of Pomerania, Neumark, Posen-West Prussia, East-Prussia, and most of Silesia. About 15 million ethnic Germans were forced to leave these territories
Losing wars, like elections, has consequences.
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