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Gun nut shoots 4 year old in the head

That's pathetic. Who the hell does something like this out of road rage? And I'm assuming both drivers are guilty in escalating the matter - why are you driving like an idiot with your 4 year old in the car?

Nice job of bringing the "gun nut" debate to the forefront. They don't even know what kind of car the suspect was driving, let alone who it was, but you can determine that it's a "gun nut". Sad.
 
That's pathetic. Who the hell does something like this out of road rage? And I'm assuming both drivers are guilty in escalating the matter - why are you driving like an idiot with your 4 year old in the car?

Nice job of bringing the "gun nut" debate to the forefront. They don't even know what kind of car the suspect was driving, let alone who it was, but you can determine that it's a "gun nut". Sad.

Person fires into moving car with kids in it = gun nut
 
This made the news. Shooter must be white and a legal gun owner.

The four year old killed by random gunfire in Chicago doesn't deserve the same empathy apparently.
 
That's pathetic. Who the hell does something like this out of road rage? And I'm assuming both drivers are guilty in escalating the matter - why are you driving like an idiot with your 4 year old in the car?

Nice job of bringing the "gun nut" debate to the forefront. They don't even know what kind of car the suspect was driving, let alone who it was, but you can determine that it's a "gun nut". Sad.
Car was a dark red late model Toyota 4-door sedan, and suspect was described as darker 'white' perhaps hispanic male in his 20's to 30's. No word on the motive though.
 
I know you Libs won't do it and it's a shame. But if you have Facebook or Twitter, follow a few pro gun groups. I.E. Iowa Gun Owners, NRA, etc. They post every day and even a couple times a day about a homeowner defending their property.

I dare you.
 
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I know you Libs won't do it and it's a shame. But if you have Facebook or Twitter, follow a few pro gun groups. I.E. Iowa Gun Owners, NRA, etc. They post every day and even a couple times a day about a homeowner defending their property.

I dare you.
And what, pray tell, does this have to do with an apparent case of road rage in which a 4 year-old girl is shot and killed?
 
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That was the criteria I was just given for being a gun nut. Is there not a consensus amongst you people as to what a gun nut is?

Are you seriously arguing against this a-hole being id'ed as a "gun nut"?

"From what we understand, the cars were both moving," Officer Simon Drobik told KOAT News. "One car pulled up next to the other car and started firing rounds into that vehicle."
 
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And what, pray tell, does this have to do with an apparent case of road rage in which a 4 year-old girl is shot and killed?
The obvious reason for these posts about how harmful guns are to society is to push an agenda that, let's be honest, is wrong. I've had plenty of conversations with people on here that think this type of accident occurs more often than people defending themselves with a gun.

It doesn't have to do specifically with the article but to the bone heads who won't see past what their bias tells them.
 
Are you seriously arguing against this a-hole being id'ed as a "gun nut"?

"From what we understand, the cars were both moving," Officer Simon Drobik told KOAT News. "One car pulled up next to the other car and started firing rounds into that vehicle."
Unfortunately, anyone that owns a gun is a "gun nut" to you guys. If not, please specify otherwise.
 
Unfortunately, anyone that owns a gun is a "gun nut" to you guys. If not, please specify otherwise.

Ummm...how about someone who pulls up beside another car on the highway and fires multiple rounds into a moving vehicle. I know gun nuts consider that "defending themselves" but the rational amongst the population would call that deranged behavior.

Feel free to "specify otherwise".
 
Are you seriously arguing against this a-hole being id'ed as a "gun nut"?

"From what we understand, the cars were both moving," Officer Simon Drobik told KOAT News. "One car pulled up next to the other car and started firing rounds into that vehicle."
Yes, I am.

Incredibly stupid and reckless individual. A murderer who needs to be caught. But not everyone who owns a gun is a "gun nut".
 
Gun nut is like pornography.

I know it when I see it.

Another reason why I am no fan of anybody and everybody having guns all the time.

Stuff escalated and somebody loses their mind and starts shooting.

It will become more common everyday and nothing can stop it.
 
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Ummm...how about someone who pulls up beside another car on the highway and fires multiple rounds into a moving vehicle. I know gun nuts consider that "defending themselves" but the rational amongst the population would call that deranged behavior.

Feel free to "specify otherwise".
You're just being emotional and spouting common left verbiage now.

There's many things you can assume about the guy just based off of what little we know. Saying he's a gun nut is hardly one of them.

This really isn't that hard of a discussion. But you're following your duty as a person of the sheeple right now.
 
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Gun nut is like pornography.

I know it when I see it.

Another reason why I am no fan of anybody and everybody having guns all the time.

Stuff escalated and somebody loses their mind and starts shooting.

It will become more common everyday and nothing can stop it.


Yep, as along as the NRA can find enough insecure gullible paranoid patsies to buy into their fantasy that having a gun will allow them to fight off government "tyranny" politicians will continue to cave on any sensible gun control legislation and pander to their delusions.
 
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So anyone that owns a gun would fire multiple rounds into another vehicle in a fit of road rage?
Huh? To be honest, I think there are a few people that post here that might actually believe that sentiment. Or at the very least, want to believe it.
 
Yes, I am.

Incredibly stupid and reckless individual. A murderer who needs to be caught. But not everyone who owns a gun is a "gun nut".
I think one could state with a degree of certainty that this is an "Incredibly stupid and reckless individual. A murderer who needs to be caught." AND, who may or may not be a gun nut.

I think there are plenty of people who I would consider to be "gun-nuts" but they aren't murderers. And then there are people who have never owned a gun in their lives until one day decide to get one and commit some heinous crime, but wouldn't meet my personal definition of "gun-nut."
 
Ummm...how about someone who pulls up beside another car on the highway and fires multiple rounds into a moving vehicle. I know gun nuts consider that "defending themselves" but the rational amongst the population would call that deranged behavior.

Feel free to "specify otherwise".
Ok now I'm confused. I don't think but the tiniest percentage (.0000001%) of gun owners would consider that self defense. So either your statement is way off base or only .0000001% of gun owners are gun nuts. Which is it?
 
I think one could state with a degree of certainty that this is an "Incredibly stupid and reckless individual. A murderer who needs to be caught." AND, who may or may not be a gun nut.

I think there are plenty of people who I would consider to be "gun-nuts" but they aren't murderers. And then there are people who have never owned a gun in their lives until one day decide to get one and commit some heinous crime, but wouldn't meet my personal definition of "gun-nut."
That's very reasonable and level headed. I wish more thought like that.
 
Same here. The point of the post wasn't from "our" perspective. It was for some of the lefties that loosely use the phrase.
Yes, I agree there appeared to be an agenda to the manner in which this was originally posted.

It's certainly a tragedy, and I don't think anyone could disagree with that. However, until all the facts are available for public consumption (or at least as many as are 'permissible' legally, of course) I think it's dangerous to jump to conclusions about the mindset of the perpetrator.

There are (almost) always two sides to every story, and while I think it's reasonable to discuss the issue of guns in cars, road rage, etc. I think labeling someone without more evidence is irresponsible. I'm as guilty as anyone of this behavior, but it is something I try to avoid (with mixed success :oops:).
 
I think one could state with a degree of certainty that this is an "Incredibly stupid and reckless individual. A murderer who needs to be caught." AND, who may or may not be a gun nut.

I think there are plenty of people who I would consider to be "gun-nuts" but they aren't murderers. And then there are people who have never owned a gun in their lives until one day decide to get one and commit some heinous crime, but wouldn't meet my personal definition of "gun-nut."
Make no mistake, I'm not saying he isn't a "gun nut". I'm saying that calling him one at the moment is (reasonably) impossible. Being a gun nut and committing crimes don't go hand in hand in my opinion. Someone can be a gun nut and have the record of a choir boy until the day they die. And vice versa.
 
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