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Mississippi Governor Declares April 2025 as Confederate Heritage Month​

Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves has declared April 2025 as Confederate Heritage Month in Mississippi, keeping alive a 32-year-old tradition that began in 1993.

A member of the Rankin Greys, a Sons of Confederate Veterans camp based in Florence, Mississippi, announced the proclamation in a post in the organization’s Facebook group on April 18.

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Having recently visited the south and touring two plantations and a civil war battle ground, I realize the importance of understanding one's history, and honoring ancestors who died in battle.

That said, the war was about keeping slavery legal and succeeding from the union. Honoring the ideals of confederacy is, in my opinion, wrong.
 
Having recently visited the south and touring two plantations and a civil war battle ground, I realize the importance of understanding one's history, and honoring ancestors who died in battle.

That said, the war was about keeping slavery legal and succeeding from the union. Honoring the ideals of confederacy is, in my opinion, wrong.
Interestingly, though the month is almost over, just yesterday I first noticed a banner on main street here in big lex regarding confederate "history" month. I suppose that's a first amendment thing, as last week the banner hanging in that spot was advertising an upcoming herb sale. Lex is obviously an interesting place with unique ties back to that history and a fairly active SCV organization in the area, yet the town is politically quite liberal. Somehow, people of all stripes seem to do their thing without anybody getting in each other's faces. I have to say though, it was strange back in February to have the SCV marching down main street on Saturday for a "lee-jackson" commemoration (complete with people leaving lemons at jackson's grave), and another group marching down the same street on Monday for MLK Day.

PS - I have little to no patience with people who suggest the civil war wasn't about slavery.
 
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Interestingly, though the month is almost over, just yesterday I first noticed a banner on main street here in big lex regarding confederate "history" month. I suppose that's a first amendment thing, as last week the banner hanging in that spot was advertising an upcoming herb sale. Lex is obviously an interesting place with unique ties back to that history and a fairly active SCV organization in the area, yet the town is politically quite liberal. Somehow, people of all stripes seem to do their thing without anybody getting in each other's faces. I have to say though, it was strange back in February to have the SCV marching down main street on Saturday for a "lee-jackson" commemoration, and another group marching down the same street on Monday for MLK Day.

PS - I have little to no patience with people who suggest the civil war wasn't about slavery.

I hadn't ever heard of the moniker 'big lex', could you share what makes Lex an obviously interesting place?
 
I hadn't ever heard of the moniker 'big lex', could you share what makes Lex an obviously interesting place?
First, as to the humorous genesis of the moniker, that's actually Mrs. A. When she was a coed at sweet briar (basically, a women's college on a former plantation in Amherst), they would drive over the mountain to "Big Lex" to go to the W&L (at the time, all male) fraternity parties. (Alternatively, they sometimes went to other schools within the "bermuda triangle" demarcated by UVA, W&L, and Hampden Syndney. Usually at least one girl would die in a drunk driving accident every four years or so.)

What makes it interesting is first of all is that you have W&L and VMI literally right next to each other in town - imagine greek revival right next to castle prison walls. So two well-endowed universities with really quality kids, each with very very distinct histories associated with the old south, both of which have transformed themselves pretty dramatically but both of which have very strong rogue alumni bases rooted in the lost cause. In a given week, you can go to a debate between Ramaswamy and Bolton on foreign policy, or an art lecture by someone babbling about how their beadwork is an exercise in "data sovereignty" over native american genetic illnesses (no, really). Many alums, old and new, come back here to live because it's spectacularly beautiful and people are nice. When you step out of town into the county and the Shenandoah Valley, well, let's just say you don't meet a lot of families with the last name "Sheridan". So most importantly, what makes it interesting is that it's this unique blend (and contrast) of old and new in every way. Once upon a time, W&L had something called the "speaking tradition", which essentially held that it was extraordinarily rude if you passed someone on campus and didn't greet them - it's not what it once was, but that still pervades the town a bit, despite all of the acrimony in the outside world. Yet not as quirky as, say, Asheville.

Beyond the history and the influences of the universities, the town has somehow maintained its small southern town charm. Main street has ZERO chain stores. I met my first truly southern gothic person here. I've met at least a half dozen people who were born in Stonewall Jackson's house (which later served as a local hospital). Information is via word of mouth, which requires that you actually talk to people (case in point, when i went to get tix for the local bluegrass venue's lineup of shows, I stood in a half block line not having any idea what artists were even playing, I just knew that tix went on sale that day at a restaurant that is only open for special events). We have two local newspapers with almost entirely local news - one very middle of the road, one 'independent.' Local contractors are honest, trustworthy, friendly, and capable. We have a venue that brings in top-notch Americana music acts all summer, a national class equestrian center, and a local native who is a world-class photographic artist (Sally Mann) which has spawned its own little creative culture/commercial section.
 
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First, as to the humorous genesis of the moniker, that's actually Mrs. A. When she was a coed at sweet briar (basically, a women's college on a former plantation in Amherst), they would drive over the mountain to "Big Lex" to go to the W&L (at the time, all male) fraternity parties. (Alternatively, they sometimes went to other schools within the "bermuda triangle" demarcated by UVA, W&L, and Hampden Syndney. Usually at least one girl would die in a drunk driving accident every four years or so.)

What makes it interesting is first of all is that you have W&L and VMI literally right next to each other in town - imagine greek revival right next to castle prison walls. So two well-endowed universities with really quality kids, each with very very distinct histories associated with the old south, both of which have transformed themselves pretty dramatically but both of which have very strong rogue alumni bases rooted in the lost cause. In a given week, you can go to a debate between Ramaswamy and Bolton on foreign policy, or an art lecture by someone babbling about how their beadwork is an exercise in "data sovereignty" over native american genetic illnesses (no, really). Many alums, old and new, come back here to live because it's spectacularly beautiful and people are nice. When you step out of town into the county and the Shenandoah Valley, well, let's just say you don't meet a lot of families with the last name "Sheridan". So most importantly, what makes it interesting is that it's this unique blend (and contrast) of old and new in every way. Once upon a time, W&L had something called the "speaking tradition", which essentially held that it was extraordinarily rude if you passed someone on campus and didn't greet them - it's not what it once was, but that still pervades the town a bit, despite all of the acrimony in the outside world. Yet not as quirky as, say, Asheville.

Beyond the history and the influences of the universities, the town has somehow maintained its small southern town charm. Main street has ZERO chain stores. I met my first truly southern gothic person here. I've met at least a half dozen people who were born in Stonewall Jackson's house (which later served as a local hospital). Information is via word of mouth, which requires that you actually talk to people (case in point, when i went to get tix for the local bluegrass venue's lineup of shows, I stood in a half block line not having any idea what artists were even playing, I just knew that tix went on sale that day at a restaurant that is only open for special events). We have two local newspapers with almost entirely local news - one very middle of the road, one 'independent.' Local contractors are honest, trustworthy, friendly, and capable. We have a venue that brings in top-notch Americana music acts all summer, a national class equestrian center, and a local native who is a world-class photographic artist (Sally Mann) which has spawned its own little creative culture/commercial section.

That does sound interesting. I tend to like college towns and that sounds like a lot more than just a college town. Thanks
 
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Having recently visited the south and touring two plantations and a civil war battle ground, I realize the importance of understanding one's history, and honoring ancestors who died in battle.

That said, the war was about keeping slavery legal and succeeding from the union. Honoring the ideals of confederacy is, in my opinion, wrong.
Damn Republicans and they're fighting to keep slavery.
 
What's your point?

Are you trying to say the republican party is the same party it was 160 years ago?
I'm saying that he Democrat party has been the same....until Trump did all they've been promising for the past 50 years.
 
Might as well just get this out of the way now:

TRUTH SOCIAL POST:

So many people—great Americans—are talking about Confederate Heritage, and I have to say, we should be PROUD of our incredible history. We learn from it, we remember it, and yes—we protect it.

Nobody has done more for historic preservation than me. Beautiful statues, amazing landmarks—some of the BEST ever created, folks. They tried to take them down, but we stood tall. We said NO!

We don’t ERASE history. We LEARN from it. We BUILD on it. We MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN because of it! ❤️🤍💙

Celebrate our shared history. The good, the bad, and everything in between. That’s how we grow STRONGER.

TRADITION. PRIDE. AMERICA FIRST. 🇺🇸 #MAGA #HistoryMatters #SouthernStrength #ConfederateHeritage
 
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Might as well just get this out of the way now:

TRUTH SOCIAL POST:

So many people—great Americans—are talking about Confederate Heritage, and I have to say, we should be PROUD of our incredible history. We learn from it, we remember it, and yes—we protect it.

Nobody has done more for historic preservation than me. Beautiful statues, amazing landmarks—some of the BEST ever created, folks. They tried to take them down, but we stood tall. We said NO!

We don’t ERASE history. We LEARN from it. We BUILD on it. We MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN because of it! ❤️🤍💙

Celebrate our shared history. The good, the bad, and everything in between. That’s how we grow STRONGER.

TRADITION. PRIDE. AMERICA FIRST. 🇺🇸 #MAGA #HistoryMatters #SouthernStrength #ConfederateHeritage

It's so in character for Trump and his idiot voter base to be proud of and want to celebrate losing a war over chattel slavery in the 1800's.
 

Mississippi Governor Declares April 2025 as Confederate Heritage Month​

Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves has declared April 2025 as Confederate Heritage Month in Mississippi, keeping alive a 32-year-old tradition that began in 1993.

A member of the Rankin Greys, a Sons of Confederate Veterans camp based in Florence, Mississippi, announced the proclamation in a post in the organization’s Facebook group on April 18.

LINK
Must post again

 
How's that? Everything I said is the truth.
Usually people who think they’re the greatest thing since sliced bread usually have a point. You’re just a tool who has no point.

But you’re definitely in the running for biggest tool on this board, so you got that going for you.
 
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It's sad that you think, or are pretending, that it is.
Okay. let's go through this timeline...

1) Civil War - Democrats wanting to keep slavery
2) Jim Crow - Democrats again
3) Civil Rights 1957 - majority of no votes Democrats
4) Civil Rights 1964 - majority of no votes Democrats
5) Biden and Democrats of the 1970's didn't want black kids being bused to their kids schools
6) Puts statistics of race into everything. Democrats use this a lot.

Now let's go through the change in the past 8 years.

1) Democrats railed against illegal immigration and campaigned they would fix it
2) Equal trade (often time siting China)
3) Said they would do something about abortion (did nothing)
4) Now they are the party of oligarchs (minus Elon)
5) They were anti-war party, now they seem to want them and support them
6) Wanted the average working class Joe and their vote

I could go on but I think you get my point.
 
Okay. let's go through this timeline...

1) Civil War - Democrats wanting to keep slavery
2) Jim Crow - Democrats again
3) Civil Rights 1957 - majority of no votes Democrats
4) Civil Rights 1964 - majority of no votes Democrats
5) Biden and Democrats of the 1970's didn't want black kids being bused to their kids schools
6) Puts statistics of race into everything. Democrats use this a lot.

Now let's go through the change in the past 8 years.

1) Democrats railed against illegal immigration and campaigned they would fix it
2) Equal trade (often time siting China)
3) Said they would do something about abortion (did nothing)
4) Now they are the party of oligarchs (minus Elon)
5) They were anti-war party, now they seem to want them and support them
6) Wanted the average working class Joe and their vote

I could go on but I think you get my point.

Your point is a tired canard that's been on the lips of Confederate apologists for generations. If the name of a political party is that dear to you fine, but you're wrong and every time you attempt to argue this point you'll only show how petty and illinformed you are.
 
Okay. let's go through this timeline...

1) Civil War - Democrats wanting to keep slavery
2) Jim Crow - Democrats again
3) Civil Rights 1957 - majority of no votes Democrats
4) Civil Rights 1964 - majority of no votes Democrats
5) Biden and Democrats of the 1970's didn't want black kids being bused to their kids schools
6) Puts statistics of race into everything. Democrats use this a lot.

Now let's go through the change in the past 8 years.

1) Democrats railed against illegal immigration and campaigned they would fix it
2) Equal trade (often time siting China)
3) Said they would do something about abortion (did nothing)
4) Now they are the party of oligarchs (minus Elon)
5) They were anti-war party, now they seem to want them and support them
6) Wanted the average working class Joe and their vote

I could go on but I think you get my point.
Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed by a Democratic majority in both houses, and signed by President Johnson. A Democrat.

If your slave abolishing party of the 1860s was so into black justice, why did 136 House republicans and 35 Senate republicans vote against the Civil Rights Act of 1964?
 
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Might as well just get this out of the way now:

TRUTH SOCIAL POST:

So many people—great Americans—are talking about Confederate Heritage, and I have to say, we should be PROUD of our incredible history. We learn from it, we remember it, and yes—we protect it.

Nobody has done more for historic preservation than me. Beautiful statues, amazing landmarks—some of the BEST ever created, folks. They tried to take them down, but we stood tall. We said NO!

We don’t ERASE history. We LEARN from it. We BUILD on it. We MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN because of it! ❤️🤍💙

Celebrate our shared history. The good, the bad, and everything in between. That’s how we grow STRONGER.

TRADITION. PRIDE. AMERICA FIRST. 🇺🇸 #MAGA #HistoryMatters #SouthernStrength #ConfederateHeritage
When Trump says learn from history he means return to that era.
 
Interestingly, though the month is almost over, just yesterday I first noticed a banner on main street here in big lex regarding confederate "history" month. I suppose that's a first amendment thing, as last week the banner hanging in that spot was advertising an upcoming herb sale. Lex is obviously an interesting place with unique ties back to that history and a fairly active SCV organization in the area, yet the town is politically quite liberal. Somehow, people of all stripes seem to do their thing without anybody getting in each other's faces. I have to say though, it was strange back in February to have the SCV marching down main street on Saturday for a "lee-jackson" commemoration (complete with people leaving lemons at jackson's grave), and another group marching down the same street on Monday for MLK Day.

PS - I have little to no patience with people who suggest the civil war wasn't about slavery.
I’m guessing income and education levels are high outside of the truck stop zone. Go to the truck stop and see how genteel the conversations are and report back to us.
 
I’m guessing income and education levels are high outside of the truck stop zone. Go to the truck stop and see how genteel the conversations are and report back to us.
Here’s the thing. The conversations I have “in the truck stop zone” are actually friendly, open, and respectful.

My anecdotal takeaway is that liberal intelligentsia just might actually have a greater likelihood of being motivated by ignorance, fear, and bias.
 
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Interestingly, though the month is almost over, just yesterday I first noticed a banner on main street here in big lex regarding confederate "history" month. I suppose that's a first amendment thing, as last week the banner hanging in that spot was advertising an upcoming herb sale. Lex is obviously an interesting place with unique ties back to that history and a fairly active SCV organization in the area, yet the town is politically quite liberal. Somehow, people of all stripes seem to do their thing without anybody getting in each other's faces. I have to say though, it was strange back in February to have the SCV marching down main street on Saturday for a "lee-jackson" commemoration (complete with people leaving lemons at jackson's grave), and another group marching down the same street on Monday for MLK Day.

PS - I have little to no patience with people who suggest the civil war wasn't about slavery.

The question of whether the Civil War was fought over slavery has set northerner against southerner and historian against historian since the whole catastrophe began. It hangs in the air still, an ever-floating controversy. But it is very difficult to make a valid case—as many southerners tried to do, and still try to do, along with several historians—that sectional differences over slavery and its threatened expansion into the western territories were not the fundamental cause, the bedrock cause, of the Civil War.

Northern aggression was to become another strong argument as to why the South seceded and went to war against the North. Indeed, throughout the war, many Southerners called it “the war of Northern aggression,” and some still do.

Perhaps the most common cause of the war argued by southerners is that the North was threatening states’ rights. In those times, in many minds, the powers of individual states trumped federal powers, no matter what the U.S. Constitution said. This was the reason that when the war began and people had to decide which side to fight on, southern officers in the U.S. Army and Navy overwhelmingly resigned to fight for their individual states in the Confederacy.
 
The question of whether the Civil War was fought over slavery has set northerner against southerner and historian against historian since the whole catastrophe began. It hangs in the air still, an ever-floating controversy. But it is very difficult to make a valid case—as many southerners tried to do, and still try to do, along with several historians—that sectional differences over slavery and its threatened expansion into the western territories were not the fundamental cause, the bedrock cause, of the Civil War.

Northern aggression was to become another strong argument as to why the South seceded and went to war against the North. Indeed, throughout the war, many Southerners called it “the war of Northern aggression,” and some still do.

Perhaps the most common cause of the war argued by southerners is that the North was threatening states’ rights. In those times, in many minds, the powers of individual states trumped federal powers, no matter what the U.S. Constitution said. This was the reason that when the war began and people had to decide which side to fight on, southern officers in the U.S. Army and Navy overwhelmingly resigned to fight for their individual states in the Confederacy.
Every war is wrapped in a nice ideology. But when you get to root cause, “states rights” was simply code for slavery.
 
I had a bar menu in my hand during overseas travel that had world leaders all over it, including Hitler. Weird shit
 
This is the shit that's important to MAGAs. God damn, they ruined this country.
Or maybe it’s a southern thing… not everything is republican vs democrat.
Not everything has to be politicized.

It’s clear you’ve never stepped foot in the south. Unless you’ve lived in the south you wouldn’t understand the culture, mindset and heritage. They love their history. While I don’t agree with it, I understand the “why.”
 
"I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races—that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermingling with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which will ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together, there must be the position of superior. I am as much as any other man in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."

Probably the only honest thing 'Honest' Abe ever said. 😬
 
Might as well just get this out of the way now:

TRUTH SOCIAL POST:

So many people—great Americans—are talking about Confederate Heritage, and I have to say, we should be PROUD of our incredible history. We learn from it, we remember it, and yes—we protect it.

Nobody has done more for historic preservation than me. Beautiful statues, amazing landmarks—some of the BEST ever created, folks. They tried to take them down, but we stood tall. We said NO!

We don’t ERASE history. We LEARN from it. We BUILD on it. We MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN because of it! ❤️🤍💙

Celebrate our shared history. The good, the bad, and everything in between. That’s how we grow STRONGER.

TRADITION. PRIDE. AMERICA FIRST. 🇺🇸 #MAGA #HistoryMatters #SouthernStrength #ConfederateHeritage

Red meat for the GOP base
 
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