Happy Easter HROT! He is risen!
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St. Mary's in Iowa City has a couple of toothpick sized relics of the cross, upon which Jesus was crucified. The priest there also said that if all the churches combined their so called cross relics, they would have enough lumber to build the ark...
IOWA CITY, Iowa (KCRG) -- The cross Catholics venerate on Good Friday is typically symbolic of the one Christians believe Jesus Christ was killed on, but there is little symbolism at St. Mary's Church in Iowa City. There, the parish claims to have an actual piece of what they call the "true cross".
Father Steve Witt, the spiritual leader of St. Mary's, acknowledges the claim is a "bold" one but says there is documentation from the Vatican to prove their claims. That said, where those documents may be located at the church are a mystery.
Father Steve jokes, there are enough relics with alleged ties to the true cross that one could, in his words, build an arch out of them. However, for Catholics, like Father Steve, whether any relic is authentic or not comes second to what he believes is their purpose, and that is to help people connect on a deeper level with God.
IOWA CITY, Iowa (KCRG) -- The cross Catholics venerate on Good Friday is typically symbolic of the one Christians believe Jesus Christ was killed on, but there is little symbolism at St. Mary's Church in Iowa City. There, the parish claims to have an actual piece of what they call the "true cross".
Father Steve Witt, the spiritual leader of St. Mary's, acknowledges the claim is a "bold" one but says there is documentation from the Vatican to prove their claims. That said, where those documents may be located at the church are a mystery.
Father Steve jokes, there are enough relics with alleged ties to the true cross that one could, in his words, build an arch out of them. However, for Catholics, like Father Steve, whether any relic is authentic or not comes second to what he believes is their purpose, and that is to help people connect on a deeper level with God.
Actually Christ has absolutely nothing to do with being moral. Accepting Jesus is about understanding that no one especially oneself is truly moral and the only way to have our sins forgiven is through Him.
Brian Nole is seething to join-in this discussion.
I love ya, my brother from another mother. Hope Easter weekend treating you right.
You should come to Houston. The gay community does a big party called Bunnies on the Bayou.
Seems like you haven't read the Bible updated in 2016. It's no one with an asterisk, which explains that there is an exception that Trump is the only one truly moral.
Surprising that you didn't know that.
That sounds like a church cult memorandum, to me.
I have a strong gut feeling that Jesus of Nazareth was a helluva lot more humble than that.
Accepting Christ means acknowledging that because of one’s sinful nature, the only way humanity can reconcile with God is because Jesus paid our penalty.
Right... just what I said. Some made-up Church indoctrination that puts you in their pocket, or under their control.
"Faith" brings great comfort and joy to billions of people and has been shown to have beneficial health outcomes vs. that of non-believers.
What I have a problem with is the "I am the way and the only way" stuff...
I believe spirituality is important for the human condition, and there are as many paths up the mountain toward spirituality as there are people.
Christianity is certainly a valid path, but there are many, many others.
Indeed, if a loving God made all of us, then we all have an individual journey to find our own relationship with him (or her).
What I have a problem with is the "I am the way and the only way" stuff...
I believe spirituality is important for the human condition, and there are as many paths up the mountain toward spirituality as there are people.
Christianity is certainly a valid path, but there are many, many others.
Indeed, if a loving God made all of us, then we all have an individual journey to find our own relationship with him (or her).
No, I'm really, REALLY not trolling. I mean, there's almost 2000 years of proof of what I said.
The church has nothing to do with it. It is a direct relationship between the person and God.
Jesus was a flaming lib who probably did shower squats and stair pushups religiously.
And, that entire relationship is based on the stipulations decreed by the church, from the church's interpretation, and canonized texts. The church has absolutely EVERYTHING to do with the relationship you describe.
Setting the spiritual aside, Easter is the worst holiday from a logistical and pure fun standpoint.
Wake up early on Sunday, my kids get way too much candy that they’ll never eat, it’s spring and there’s a ton of yard work crap I’m setting aside, the weather is often crap, it’s the soberest holiday around and there’s nothing special going on in sports. Topping it all off, in most other countries you get a damn day off on either Friday or Monday, but in the most supposedly Christian nation there is we don’t get anything.
Wake up early on Sunday, my kids get way too much candy that they’ll never eat, it’s spring and there’s a ton of yard work crap I’m setting aside, the weather is often crap, it’s the soberest holiday around and there’s nothing special going on in sports. Topping it all off, in most other countries you get a damn day off on either Friday or Monday, but in the most supposedly Christian nation there is we don’t get anything.
Folks can say this, but then are told by a Church that they have holy days of obligations, they have to confess their sins to a man ordained by a Church, they have obligations to give to the church, etc. etc. I love it when a staunch holier than thou Catholic tells me its about a personal relationship with God, and then out the other side of their mouth says that you have all these obligations that a man made Church, (that clearly has political/power motivations) says you have to do. I also like the folks in various forms of Christianity (not all) that believe that if a baby is not baptized prior to death, it will go to Purgatory. I don't believe Jesus, the human being, as he lived his life would endorse any of these thoughts/traditions/beliefs. The man overturned tables in a temple. He treated prostitutes, the disabled, etc. the same as he would treat his best friend. I don't have any issues with faith. I firmly believe it is a good thing, but a good thing that has and continues to be abused by many. Organized churches have done far worse for human kind than true spirituality between one and one's God (regardless of faith).
Ultimately, Christianity is a personal relationship between
the believer and Christ. Our faith is in Christ, not the church.
Our forgiveness comes from Christ's death on the cross,
not the church. Our resurrection from the grave someday
comes from the resurrected Christ, not the church.
the believer and Christ. Our faith is in Christ, not the church.
Our forgiveness comes from Christ's death on the cross,
not the church. Our resurrection from the grave someday
comes from the resurrected Christ, not the church.
I’m not Catholic and don’t believe in Purgatory, but your opinions on organized churches are off base. There have been some well publicized incidents that deserve the scorn they have received, but on balance churches are incredibly good contributors to their communities and make people’s lives way better.
If you take away all the Catholic, Lutheran. Methodist,
and Presbyterian Hospitals in America, then you would
notice a real void in medical care.
If you take away all the Protestant and Catholic food banks
and soup kitchens in America, then you would see real
hunger in our communities.
and Presbyterian Hospitals in America, then you would
notice a real void in medical care.
If you take away all the Protestant and Catholic food banks
and soup kitchens in America, then you would see real
hunger in our communities.
If you take away all the Catholic, Lutheran and Baptist
elementary schools, & high schools in America, then
the Public Schools would be overcrowded.
elementary schools, & high schools in America, then
the Public Schools would be overcrowded.
Don't forget the Adventists. They have a major footprint in Central Florida healthcare.
many non believers, as shown here, use a post like this to make fun of believers. Thanks for treating people's deeply held believe with respect
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